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Posted Feb 20, '14 at 3:50pm

Salvidian

Salvidian

4,299 posts

This is the World Events, Politics, Religion, Etc. subforum so I'm assuming this thread belongs here. Otherwise feel free to put it in the Tavern, dear mods.

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I've been contemplating some of the metaphorical political realities of AG. What kind of government is in place? Is it democratic? Communist? Libertarian? Is it federalist? And what type of economic and societal enactments are there? Socialist? Capitalist? Where do the governmental functions work and who makes them up? How does AG work as a society?

In short, compare AG to a country.

This is how I see the site:

Government structure:
Largely federalist with a shared autocracy in the highest division, although headed by a chair. The highest division is comprised of the administration with Dan in the top chair. In the second division, the moderators lay. They are subject to a bicameral parliamentary that is somewhat shared with the knights. The knights, in the third division, make up the second half of the parliamentary. The second and third functions work together like Congress: the Senate (moderators) features those with generally more powers and are delegated largely by appointment from the highest division, and the House (knights) features those with generally less powers and are delegated by a mix of popular opinion as well as appointment. Together they come to decisions to present to the highest division. As for branch structure, the legislative branch is comprised of solely the highest division with consideration of Congressional opinion. The executive branch is made up of the Senate and the highest division, with the highest division receiving more power. The judicial branch is fundamentally nonexistent, and is instead infused with the executive.

Economic structure:
For the most part AG is a capitalist society. What you work for is generally what you will receive in terms of post count, Quests, comments, games rated, etc. (easier to compare to AP than it is to current structure).

Societal structure:
Viewpoints are generally correlated with join date. In terms of actual definitions and not vague political considerations, the 2008-2010 people are conservatives because they are against change. The 2010-2011 people are largely moderate: change is good if it can be good. And, from what I have viewed, many from 2011+ are liberal: change is needed! But that can and will definitely vary from person to person.

 

Posted Feb 20, '14 at 4:00pm

minecraftsniper

minecraftsniper

613 posts

Never saw AG like a country ( yes like a family cause i think like all users are like another family here) also would be good to think that senators (mods) punish the spammers and wrongdoers in the Senate and give them a temporary ban (can get out of jail if they are good) and perma ban ( jail for ever)

 

Posted Feb 20, '14 at 4:17pm

Blackbeltr0

Blackbeltr0

803 posts

Never saw AG like a country


My AG Society

Admins: Senate (legislative)
Daniel: President (executive)
Mods: FIB / Court (Judicial system)
Knights: Citizen police
Active users: Voting citizens
Helpful active users: undercover cops
Ferret: ferret
Spammers, hacker, trollers: Criminals
Buildings: Forums
Streets: Games

~~Black~~
 

Posted Feb 20, '14 at 4:22pm

FishPreferred

FishPreferred

2,047 posts

Admins: Senate (legislative)
Daniel: President (executive)
Mods: FIB / Court (Judicial system)
Knights: Citizen police
Active users: Voting citizens
Helpful active users: undercover cops
Ferret: ferret
Spammers, hacker, trollers: Criminals
Buildings: Forums
Streets: Games


I think you reversed it on the last two. Also, why is Ferret by himself?
 

Posted Feb 20, '14 at 4:31pm

minecraftsniper

minecraftsniper

613 posts

i love all that black said specially ferret has ferret xDDD

 

Posted Feb 20, '14 at 4:31pm

Freakenstein

Freakenstein

9,638 posts

Moderator

The administrators are not represented by the users, nor is there any democracy of sorts within the community (though we do take ideas and suggestions occasionally), so with this, ArmorGames is probably governed like an Oligarchy, because 96% of the power rests within a group of people (the green Administrators). You could say all the power rests in the head honcho Daniel McNeely, but that would be leaking two universes.

The other four percent of the power comes from the moderators. While our occupations do not drive AG production, a significant portion of our advice or suggestions do change a little bit of what does get produced.

The entire administration (mods and staff) has a complete Authoritarian perspective on advertisement bots, meaning we do not want them in our country, we judge them lightly, and we execute them on the spot without trial.

The administration does hold trials for certain users and behaviors, but this also means we are judge, jury, and executioner, as there is no separate judiciary with jurisdiction to handle these issues (because that would cost more money [and would be silly to actually implement this, but this is again leaking universes] and unnecessary effort).

Helpful active users: undercover cops
Knights: Citizen police


The administration frowns upon mini-modding, but don't be a bystander if something does spontaneously present itself towards you in your travels!
 

Posted Feb 20, '14 at 4:37pm

Salvidian

Salvidian

4,299 posts

perma ban ( jail for ever)


I think you mean imprisonment. Or at least the expulsion from society.

Admins: Senate (legislative)


I would disagree because the formal sense the Senate is either voted upon by citizens or appointed by the executive branch. The admins are admins. Unless, of course, you are implying Dan (president) appoints them. But that's still only half and we don't vote for Dan either.

Daniel: President (executive)


We don't vote for Dan. Also, the executive branch carries out the laws. the rest of the admins and mods do this as well.

Mods: FIB / Court (Judicial system)


I am assuming you mean the FBI. In any case, the admins and the mods investigate (FBI = Federal Bureau of Investigation). As for interpretation of laws, the mods do this, but carry out laws. This in turn would suggest the mods are executive and legislative.

That brings up a good point: there is no separation of power.

Knights: Citizen police


Do you mean general police? Because the knights have no powers of punishment.

Active users: Voting citizens


Agreed.

Helpful active users: undercover cops


This brings up another point: do the citizens have any implied powers? Or are helpful, active users merely helpful, law-abiding citizens?

Ferret: ferret


Could you elaborate? Was this a joke? ._.

Spammers, hacker, trollers: Criminals


Agreed.

Buildings: Forums
Streets: Games


Could you explain this as well?

@Frank
Thanks! The way you worded it made it much clearer.
 

Posted Feb 20, '14 at 4:51pm

Blackbeltr0

Blackbeltr0

803 posts

Helpful active users: undercover cops
Knights: Citizen police


Meaning Flagging, and giving to mods.

The Forums build ag and the games are what brings people here....

Ferret: Ferret

Joke
 

Posted Feb 20, '14 at 5:10pm

Ferret

Ferret

8,798 posts

Administrator

Well said Freak.

I wonder what other websites would be considered as governments?

 

Posted Feb 20, '14 at 5:16pm

MacII

MacII

1,369 posts

Freak,

Amen +2

 
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