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Some of you could have read my post on reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/Gemcraft/comments/2385eg/sc_about_gem_combining_mechanics_and_why_we/) in which I explain how does gem combining works. But one of conclusions I've made â" "Try to avoid combining one color gems of different grades" â" is correct only in theory, since if you combine one color gems of different grades your gem's attack speed will suffer a lot. But in practice attack speed is capped by 30 shots per second.
So, in practice you can get some gain in specials (if your gem's attack speed is greater than 30 sps) by using special combining schemes, e.g. (((G20 + G20) + G20) + G20) instead of ((G20 + G20) + (G20 + G20)). By this post I want to start new funny competition â" for best combining scheme for Black and Orange! To set the new record you can post your G60 gem analogue (i.e. gem with the same cost as G60 gem), but since your scheme may not allow you to make G60 gem analogue, it will be better to post your ~G60 gem and a special value (let call it "growth speed", which is:
log(result_gem_special / base_gem_special) / log(n) (n is number of identical base gems combined into resulted gem)
Let say you have base pure gem x and combining scheme g(x1, x2, ..., xn) (g(x1, x2, ..., xn) combines n input gems into one resulting gem). Then "growth value" will be (log(special(y) / special(x)) / log(n)), where y = f(x) = g(x, x, ..., x). You need to find such a scheme g(x1, ..., xn), which has maximum "growth value". Since G7+ gems have extra bonuses and gems lower than G7 have not, please, use only G7+ gems as your base gems to calculate "growth value".
Why I'm starting such a competition?
Because optimal combining schemes for Orange and Black is Holy Grail for all Gemcraft SC players. Growth values for standard combining are ~0.4647 for orange and ~0.1243 for black for total ~0.589 for Black/Orange. That means, that if you grade your B/O gem up, it's manaleech power will be 2 ^ 0.589 = 1.5042x, and after 80 grading ups it will be ~152'913'823'388'742x. But if we could find schemes, which will show even e.g. 0.51 and 0.14 growth values, if you grade your B/O gem up according to those schemes, it's manaleech power will be 2 ^ 0.65 = ~1.57x per grade, and after 80 grading ups it will be ~4'503'599'627'370'509x. So, G81 gem will leech 30x more mana and it will be 30x less time to get G100 gem and beat the endurance even without WoE and shrines
I will start:
Orange G61 analogue
Orange growth value
Black G61 analogue
Black growth value
Total groth: 0.62851
scheme_G81_manaleech / standard_G81_manaleech = 2 ^ (0.62851 * 80) / 2 ^ (0.589 * 80) = 8.94x
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I tried to work in my previous empirical findings, which were:
Gem A: Black from the bottom, but close to 100% orange
Gem B: O/B 50%
Starting to supergem from only G8 (which turned out better than G6/G10).
The result is 1,23 better. I'll write it down as you, psorek and daniil, might be able to work that into your mathematic approaches and as it might inspire others to find even better recipes:
Gem A1:
G1: OB | OB
G2: O | O
G4: O | O
G6: O | O
Result: G8
Gem A2:
G1: OOOB | OBBB
G3: O | B
G5: O | B
Result: G7
((A1+A2)+A2)=A3 (G8)
Gem B1:
G1: OB | OB
G2: O | B
G4: O | B
G6: O | B
Result: G8
((A3+B1)+B1)= Resulting G9
From there I upgraded using psoreks magic formula ....
OK, according to my method for killing gems here are examples
Supergem g72 equiv and standard one at 0 hits:
1.35 more damage * 5.34 more specials gives 7.2 more damage even without gem enchanting shrine! According to my post about these shrines it can be further multiplied by 85 what gives us about 600x more powerful killing gem. Nice, yeah?