ForumsGamesGemcraft CS: 1024 hardcore upgrading

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xroads42
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hi,

i am doing the 1024 upgrading method and comparing with 16-method. both start with 32 mana gem creation.
here is the 32-16 gem grade 20
http://s28.postimg.org/oif2x27e5/3216.png
and the mana equi 32-1024 grade 21 gem
http://s18.postimg.org/8dkwxp73t/321024.png

lets see how far i can get

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gberwick
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Nomad

Sorry but I really dont understand what is 32-16 and 32-1024, and what is the différence Between them

thunderrider
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32 - 16

is 32 spec method + 16 combine method to upgrade.

32 -1024 same but xroads custom 1024 combine.

Astroshak
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Peasant

Actually, psorek came up with the 1024 gem upgrade as well, as a sort of taunt at me.

Unless xroads is using a different one than the one found at http://pastebin.com/7qUTdgmT

xroads42
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xroads42
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Farmer

yes, i am parsing psoreks method from pastebin

xroads42
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xroads42
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Farmer

anyway. what i have learned:
1024 method is in the beginning good. later you have to wait to long for an upgrade. i dont know how much better it is then the 64-method. if you dont have a skript it is not doable.
but with a script it might be a good idea to perform 32-spec->upgrade with 1024 4 or 5 times-> switch to 64 method. and when you have to wait to long for an upgrade go down to 16-method or even u-upgrade.

oLaudix
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Made script in SCAR Divi to automatize this method. Takes about 20s. Unfortunately cant make it faster cuz of frame cap and lag caused by performing actions 2 fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpkZRfA_yrU

thunderrider
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64 combine is still possible at G84.

The way I do it is in 3 stages.

Out of 64 gems....

First takes 8. Upgrade to original gem +3

Second takes 12. Upgrade to gem +3 = turns into gem +4

Final takes 44. Upgrade to gem +4 = turns into final Gem +5.

This works because the first 2, although cost = little less then 1/3rd, just about 3x -5x the original gem's stats(not including amps), so it works.

cronos51
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You can very well use 64 at G100, too. I upgrade in 9 steps ... and it works very well.
http://i62.tinypic.com/2vnnmrt.jpg

That was wrong. I use more steps start with the G8 at the bottom line, so the value of the gem goes like:
1>2>3>4>5>6>8 > 10>12> 15 >19 etc ... Which in fact is nice also as it enables you to keep the ratio between managem and amplifiers at a level that makes sense..

Talking about reallifetime one easily looses half the advantage of the better gem if one doesn't do in as many steps as one can handle.

cronos51
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Nomad

@Astroshak, I love diagrams and did one for 1024, too. I wanted to understand what about happens there ... gemgrades and order of combinig are not fully integrated. So rather just for giving an idea of the monster ...

http://i61.tinypic.com/2ivny1k.jpg

thunderrider
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Peasant

Not gonna bother learning to combine 64 differently. I'm used to mine and can do it in my sleep.

Astroshak
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Peasant

Once you learn how to do it, you really don't want to learn a new method.

I start off by duplicating the base gem and U'ing it once, making the gem 2 on the 64 gem diagram. Make 8 copies, combine two into the 4 on that same diagram. Make 3 copies of it, combine two, and set all 3 gems aside. Move the original gem into the gembox, dupe it so I've a total of ten of them, and then combine the 2+1+1+1+1+2 "8.x" gem, dupe it 3 times, and combine away.

That diagram of the 1024 gem plan is interesting. I'm going to have to learn it now

thunderrider
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Peasant

But it gives +10 grades....boring. I like smaller grade jumps, for more interesting grade numbers. Like G144e(64c and 16c both). G12 squared >

NightmaresRW
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Made script in SCAR Divi to automatize this method. Takes about 20s. Unfortunately cant make it faster cuz of frame cap and lag caused by performing actions 2 fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpkZRfA_yrU

I would love to get that script from you, or your 64 version. I was thinking about trying to make one for each of these with auto-hotkey but my scripting skills are little to none. (Last I made took forever and broke any time I resized or flash crashed.)

xroads42
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Farmer

@oLaudix do you parse it form the back or from the beginning.

my script uses less space.

oLaudix
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Nomad

I just go step by step using what psorek's program spitted out. As for posting script ill have to make it a little bit less failury since i kinda hardcoded stuff and it tends to bug out on other comps.

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