ForumsWEPRIs explicit language becoming acceptable everywhere?

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SportShark
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Television:
I've noticed that over the past few years many TV shows rated TV-14 and under (U.S.) have stopped bleeping out words like d---, a--, s---, p----, etc. I'm not including TV- MA, I'm talking about shows that are on family channels. I've noticed that the good ole F-bomb is only bleep word consistently bleeped out. Is this acceptable? Technically, most bleep words mean the same thing as their non-bleep counterparts. Is there a significant difference between the clinical use and the explitive use of these words?
As I remember it, most of these words were strictly bleeped out for years, but now many of them are being openly used on TV-PG shows.

Public:
Kids still in the single digit age group openly use these same words, talk about porn, and make jokes about women three times their age like little porn stars.
My point is that no one even seems to attempt to keep their language down to a minimum volume. I know because when I am at a restaurant or other public place, I hear it often.

Conclusion:
Is this acceptable?
What are the proper age and language restrictions for television?
How much worse/despariging are explitive words compared to their counterparts?

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HahiHa
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Tell me, why are these explicit words SO bad?

Usually it's not so much the words themselves as the context in which they are used, or the specific sensibilities of a group. Swearing becomes problematic when it is used in the context of discrimination and verbal abuse.

Censorship for television has become more lenient in recent years, but I would guess it has little effect on when children start swearing. Children can learn explicit language from other sources besides television, such as from parents or other kids. Even if a child hears an explicit word, someone has to explain to that child what the word means. Other people can do that more easily than a television show or a movie can.

Precisely. As you can read in the first article I posted, young adults "report to have learned these words from parents, peers, and siblings, not from mass media". Also children start using swear words early on, but acquire a 'swearing etiquette' with time.

you are right in a way but still... the farther you look in generations (at least in my case) the more curses you find. elementary students curse more then me and my friends (and my friends arent curse-nazis like me lol) and we curse more then our grandparents. i really do believe its the media.

I believe this is linked to the above, namely to the acquisition of a swearing etiquette. The more you grow up, the more you learn about and are aware of the contexts in which you can or can not use certain words. I don't believe the generational differences are due to an actual increase over time.
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Precisely. As you can read in the first article I posted, young adults "report to have learned these words from parents, peers, and siblings, not from mass media". Also children start using swear words early on, but acquire a 'swearing etiquette' with time.

Children might learn swear words from family members and also friends...

Apparently I saw a lot of kids playing GTA Online and I would blame Video games and also Media. Because they probably will learn the word Hope you die or You ******* from Friend and siblings but in GTA They will learn F word , **** all this kinds of words and also In some cartoons... (Only if bad parenting)

If kids wouldnt play GTA and also watch Cartoons with swear words I would say they wouldnt use a lot of swear words this days!

thepunisher93
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words are dead and very powerful at the same time...

Three words,
FUS RU DAH!

back to the topic, I don't think cursing in itself is that bad, but every thing has its place.
I swear worse than a drunk dwarf around my friends but I can't do that in my office or at home.
SO with in itself, swearing is not bad and I don't mind children learning them but they should be taught the difference between right and wrong and as such, they'll know to hold their tongue.
I think this is the main problem with the world today.
We say an action is good or bad and teach so to our children, withoout explaining the why of it.

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You would think it wouldnt take us so long to realize that these are just mere words that are only so "explicit" because of the negative connotation we have given them.

Tell me, why are these explicit words SO bad?

Exactly.

words can be used with no meaning at all while the same words can also break people.

i hope that makes sense, it's pretty hard to explain where words get their power from. =/

Usually it's not so much the words themselves as the context in which they are used, or the specific sensibilities of a group.

The weight of a word is nothing but the 'insulted' s mistake for letting words reach to them. We're not even supposed to let psychological influence affect us, yet here we are just clustering people in confrontations (in real life AND internet of course) for the simple action of what we call 'speech'.

I can say it again without remorse:

These swear words you speak of are nothing but our voice just making a noise that we defined as language at some point. It shouldn't have any influence whatsoever on anything physical. Like currency, we just made this up to make it so that we were not consumed by our own greed and ended up making a living our of robbing someone else. What do you know, people still get robbed _-_.

I'm not saying that language should be a forbidden thing or anything, by all means, keep creating languages, that way we'll get an even bigger distinction that makes people different from others, that's cool! We get to live differently, variety is the source of happiness!
Just that we NEED NOT TO give more importance to a piece of sound going through air than to what we should be doing (maybe thinking about something productive instead, how about that? I mean, economy is so tight lately that we need to think more and more ways of finding a reliable source of money, so, might as well kick it).

And yes, I do get affected by words myself, it is an instinct that the brain has addapted to, unfortunately for everyone. But the brain is a muscle too, technically, so if any part of our body has muscle memmory, why not the brain as well, right? I mean, for all we know, swearing is defenitly not one of the worst things we could be getting used to. That's why there's people who accumulate trash, for example, because they got used to it, and leaving a habit behind messes a lot with our thought process, as it is used to keep repeating an action, and suddendly stopping... eh, not something it enjoys, most certaintly.

But, I digress, my main point here is that respect, class, or anything that has to do with putting and individual over another, even if it's not true, will trigger words, and while those words shouldn't hurt anyone, they still probably will.

Eventually we get over it... most of the time anyways.

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