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Oil Use, Good or Bad?

Posted Jul 10, '08 at 6:41pm

thepossum

thepossum

3,096 posts

i think that the u.s. is stupid to be still using oil when we could run off ethanol like brazil which is like 30 something cents a gallon

 

Posted Jul 10, '08 at 6:41pm

Thoth

Thoth

46 posts

I would be posting this in the Great Debate... if it was still alive *glares at Moegreche*. Anyways, I'll play the devils advocate here. I am currently taking a debate class, and right now I'm looking at the effects of Oil. I know about Global Warming and all that so please don't post stuff like that here. Anyways, when you look at it the right way, United States oil addiction could be helpful.

I say this, as far fetched as it sounds, because our reliance on oil could have prevented us going to war with other countries, mainly Iran and possibly Russia. Oil would have prevented war because we could not attack any of our oil suppliers, most of which we had bad relations with.

What are your thoughts?

 

Posted Jul 10, '08 at 6:47pm

Thoth

Thoth

46 posts

Umm... Thamks. But that is not related to my post. This topic is about why oil use would be good or bad.

 

Posted Jul 10, '08 at 7:21pm

thelistman

thelistman

1,454 posts

@thepossum

WRONG! They're paying about $3.17 per gallon ion Brazil for ethanol. It's less than gas, but NOT even close to your stat.
( http://www.investmentnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080512/REG/796826254 )

Anyways, I am very skeptical about global warming. 99% of greenhouse gases are Water Vapor, not CO2. I see nothing wrong with oil and the oil industry. Politicians are the one's ruining everything with their corrupt policies and kick-backs.

 

Posted Jul 10, '08 at 7:49pm

TotalReview

TotalReview

853 posts

You make a good point about it stopping wars. However, the U.S. is extremely dependent on the foreign oil now. If those countries take away our oil, we could not stand on our own unless gas prices went way up. Although it does prevent war, it also prevents the U.S. from being completely independent.

 

Posted Jul 10, '08 at 8:11pm

SuperzMcShort

SuperzMcShort

329 posts

Oil usage is currently a good things as it allows for us to maintain a high standard of living relatively cheaply. However it has lead to oil dependence in many countries who are major importers like the U.S. which is most definitely a bad side to it as well as the potential that it could cause global climate change but more importantly that we may run out of it which is why we should be starting to switch to alternative fuel sources or electricity to power cars as well as other forms of power plants (such as nuclear, hydro, and geothermal) rather then coal and naural gas in the future.

That said oil and natural gases are still very cheap and for the most part available and should still be used until we can develop other technologies that could replace it efficiently and cheaply.

 

Posted Jul 10, '08 at 8:14pm

Estel

Estel

2,064 posts

Knight

There are good and bad things about oil use.

Good
Well, oil does run many things in our country, and without it, alot of our technology, such as cars and factories, would be useless. Cars and other vehicles are used for transportation of people, goods, etc.

Factories mass produce countless items such as cars, clothes, you name it! Macines inside factories need oil to work and create these goods.

Bad

Oil does add to Greenhouse gases, and is actually a significant amount.
@thelistman, actually, greenhouse gases consist of only 35-70 percent, and CO2 is anywhere between 10-25 percent. That percent may seem somewhat miniscule, but just that is alot.

Also, the oil companies are becoming corrupt and raising profits, so their pockets are filling up more by the day. Prices are skyrocketing, leaving many people in confusion on how to conserve their money.

I guess to add to more good qualities, you could say that many more people are riding their bikes, walking, etc.

 

Posted Jul 10, '08 at 8:50pm

dragoncrusher

dragoncrusher

811 posts

I totally agree with you Thoth. But the U.S. really has to think of something fast!! We could mine our own oil but that would cost us more in the long run because of how much our workers have to be paid. But with the way things look with oil, I guess that will eventually be the option we will have to turn to.

 

Posted Jul 10, '08 at 8:57pm

TotalReview

TotalReview

853 posts

Anyways, I am very skeptical about global warming. 99% of greenhouse gases are Water Vapor, not CO2.


How can you be skeptical about something when you don't even know the facts? Water vapor accounts for 36-66% of all greenhouse gases. That leaves at least 34% (most of the time it's more) to be done by the humans.
 

Posted Jul 10, '08 at 9:42pm

Estel

Estel

2,064 posts

Knight

@TR you forgot about ozone, which is not made by humans. It is made by three oxygen atoms.

@dragoncrusher, where do you suppose we will drill for all that oil? If we drilled ONLY in the US, it would not even come close to the demands of people in the US.

 
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