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Posted Jul 20, '08 at 4:45pm

Drace
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I'm for socialism =)
Capitalism sucks :)
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Posted Jul 20, '08 at 8:04pm

thelistman
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Well, seeing as the most free, wealthy, and healthy nations are capitalist... I'm going with Capitalism.
For a perfect example of Socialism, look at Robert Mugabe's plans in Zimbabwe. Re-distribute the land; kick out the rich land owners; help the working class and all that other bull. Now inflation has hit over 2 million percent just this year. Everyone is poor. What used to be the richest nation in Africa is now in poverty. YAY SOCIALISM!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7515823.stm
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Posted Jul 20, '08 at 8:30pm

Drace
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And in the other hand we have the Soviet Union which used to be a super power...
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Posted Jul 20, '08 at 8:30pm

WeeMan147
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I am totally for socialism. Who wants to be part of a system that you have to work hard to become successful? I mean, I want everything distributed evenly and given to me so that my enthusiasm to work is next to null. Socialism is definitely much better. /sarcasm
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Posted Jul 20, '08 at 8:35pm

TotalReview
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I am totally for socialism. Who wants to be part of a system that you have to work hard to become successful? I mean, I want everything distributed evenly and given to me so that my enthusiasm to work is next to null. Socialism is definitely much better. /sarcasm
Weeman, you scared me at first before I got to the end. Seriously, socialism is bull. Someone works their *** off as an engineer or a job that helps people and makes the same money as someone who digs holes. I think you should earn what you dish out. If you work hard and do well, your reward should be big. If you are lazy and basically do nothing, your reward should basically be nothing.
Also, Drace, look at what happened to the SU later.
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Posted Jul 20, '08 at 8:42pm

Drace
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The SU failed for other reasons...
The US came into depression but it managed to survive...
Zimbabwe is no where near a industrialized nation. Marx would never support socialism there. Plus they did it wrong lol.
Someone works their *** off as an engineer or a job that helps people and makes the same money as someone who digs holes.
Understand that every job is needed in society. Capitalism "solves" the problem by having the lower class do the dirty work. Also understand that some people are born worse off then others. We can't all make it as doctors. Plus a doctor does less work then a construction worker who breaks his back all day.
And not anyone can become a doctor...only the ones who can afford all the dam college costs
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Posted Jul 20, '08 at 8:43pm

Drace
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How is Zimbabwe doing it wrong?
1. They have socialism is a country with no industry.
2. They managing **** poorly if inflation's so high
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Posted Jul 20, '08 at 8:45pm

Drace
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And tell me where the success in Latin America or in Africa is?
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Posted Jul 20, '08 at 8:45pm

WeeMan147
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The SU failed for other reasons...
Yeah, I guess when you STARVE all of your citizens to death, you can blame your failed economy on something else. Good job, Drace. Good job.
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Posted Jul 20, '08 at 8:52pm

TotalReview
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Understand that every job is needed in society. Capitalism "solves" the problem by having the lower class do the dirty work. Also understand that some people are born worse off then others. We can't all make it as doctors. Plus a doctor does less work then a construction worker who breaks his back all day.
And not anyone can become a doctor...only the ones who can afford all the dam college costs
Every job is needed but why should they all get the same paycheck? Yes, people are born off worse but if they try in school, they can actually achieve a good job. Don't tell me "Oh but they have bad things in their lives." That should give them motivation! There is financial help and scholarships. My brother is going to college and he tried in school so he got a good scholarship. He could have just slacked and gotten no scholarship. I am sick of this world taking care of the low lives who failed in school and then beg for money.
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Posted Jul 20, '08 at 9:04pm

Drace
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Every job is needed but why should they all get the same paycheck? Yes, people are born off worse but if they try in school, they can actually achieve a good job. Don't tell me "Oh but they have bad things in their lives." That should give them motivation! There is financial help and scholarships. My brother is going to college and he tried in school so he got a good scholarship. He could have just slacked and gotten no scholarship. I am sick of this world taking care of the low lives who failed in school and then beg for money.
Total, how can you support capitalism when wanting to end discrimination? Capitalism itself divides people. Ruling class/working class for one. And the ruling class had competition between itself.
I gotta go now, ill answer the rest later..
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