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Abortion

Posted Oct 6, '08 at 9:41am

Generalhero

Generalhero

390 posts

Wood - King

well i think abortion is not a crime guys

 

Posted Oct 6, '08 at 9:46am

Rimdogg2

Rimdogg2

85 posts

Wood - Squire

to me its the womens choice but its still wrong

 

Posted Oct 6, '08 at 9:47am

jahsonx

jahsonx

300 posts

Wood - Lord

well i think abortion is not a crime guys

I have to disagree. Like I said before, abortion is taking life. Therefore, it is a crime.

 

Posted Oct 6, '08 at 10:41am

Drace

Drace

2,492 posts

Wood - Duke

Its a crime to make it a crime o.O
Its taking away a women's choice.

 

Posted Oct 6, '08 at 10:45am

Zootsuit_riot

Zootsuit_riot

920 posts

Iron - Knight

Like I said before, abortion is taking life.

This depends, really, as there is no set definition of "life," and morality (At what point is it not okay to kill the fetus?) differs between each person. Since there's so many different philosophies that exist on the topic, the only hope is to make it legal and set strict regulations on how abortion is handled.

 

Posted Oct 6, '08 at 10:45am

Socialist

Socialist

29 posts

Iron - Serf

Right on Drace, I completely agree. Hey Jahson, are you a vegetarian? If not, you better turn yourself in, you're taking 'life'!

 

Posted Oct 6, '08 at 11:21am

Zophia

Zophia

3,479 posts

Iron - Princess

Moderator

Heh, as a vegetarian I guess I'm one of those you people seem to think have a valid reason for finding it wrong...
But actually I don't.

We need strict rules for abortion and how/when it is allowed to do. Not only because the fetus at some point becomes so much of a human that it would be possible to keep alive (and doctors usually have this weird 'if we can keep it alive, we will keep it alive' policy with humans of all ages), but also because of the traumatic experience it is for a woman to have a pregnancy cut off.

The world has too much of a population already.

Shall I rant more?
I think there are more pros than cons with the subject.

 

Posted Oct 6, '08 at 1:21pm

Socialist

Socialist

29 posts

Iron - Serf

People who go on about there being 'too many people on earth' are never the ones who volunteer to help reduce population by topping themselves, so I don't think that's a very valid argument.

In terms of 'trauma', any psychological trauma experienced with regards to abortion is social and not inherent, social because of all this hysteria women are subjected to by the right wing bigots who want them to have no control over their bodies.

This question is not about life, and should never be about life, because if it is, it's ceding ground to anti-abortionists who want to make it a moral argument and take away women's rights. It is a political question as to what a woman can do with her own body, not a moral one.

And criminalising abortion doesn't eradicate it, it just forces women who need abortions to seek backyard operations, putting their lives at much higher risk. Hense 'pro-life', the name is a lie; they don't care if women die. That's right, I'm a poet.

Anyway, if the government forces a woman to have a baby and she is against adoption, who the hell's going to take care of it? well, it certainly won't be the government. Once it's alive the government couldn't care less about it. no, all the caring and support is left up to the mother, and that is why women should be supported for being able to choose. This reinforces all those disgusting stereotypes that say women are naturally caring, nurturing, and always love their children unconditionally, and belong in the home. If you are against abortion you are against women being independent  and against them having a say over the most intimate decisions as to what happens to their bodies.

 

Posted Oct 6, '08 at 1:40pm

Zophia

Zophia

3,479 posts

Iron - Princess

Moderator

People who go on about there being 'too many people on earth' are never the ones who volunteer to help reduce population by topping themselves, so I don't think that's a very valid argument.

Possibly not... Actually, Denmark is having troubles with a too low birth rate, and adoption is way too complicated to solve it by adopting unwanted children from other countries.
Then again, that's a whole topic of its own...

In terms of 'trauma', any psychological trauma experienced with regards to abortion is social and not inherent, social because of all this hysteria women are subjected to by the right wing bigots who want them to have no control over their bodies.

So you are saying the only traumatic thing about it comes from other peoples opinions?
This whole subject is not so much of a discussion in the country I live in. The trauma is far more emotional loss than social something... No, I haven't had an abortion myself, but I have had friends who did. It is not a fun thing to go through. It's not something that is just done and then over with.
The woman have to live with her decision for the rest of her life, but it can still be better than having her whole life turned upside down by an unwanted child.

I like the rest of your post.

 

Posted Oct 6, '08 at 4:17pm

ShintetsuWA

ShintetsuWA

1,688 posts

Wood - Duke

Abortion is not something to be taken lightly guys. People have been torn in half because of the situation and choice. For the people who couldn't stay being abstinent, I pity you, no offense. For those that had to go in a situation where a person committed carnal knowledge without consent, that's where I feel for you. After all if it's the choice you made in the beginning before everything started, you need to accept your decision and make the best of that decision. For the latter story, it really is up to you, nobody is going to judge you left from right if that actually happens.

 
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