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Why does death HAVE to occur?

You're justifying that based off of our current perspective, not from an objective point of view. We view death as necessary because we live in a messed up world where our bodies are constantly degenerating. If I was going to start a race from scratch, I would never even create the concept of death.

Again, if starting from scratch, God could make a race of robots be just as happy if not moreso than a group of free-willed people. He would be making the rules that govern the universe, so he could make it how he wanted.

Well, if death didn't occur, we would fill up the planet with crotchety old people. But then you could argue that we didn't need birth either... I think it makes sense to cycle out each generation, so that if one generation was wrong about something they observed or believed something that was unfair to someone else, the next generation would have some fresh ideas to fix that.

Isn't that the defenition of ****? The guy just gets his fix and leaves?

Ah, the answer to your question, Razaki, is actually pretty simple. You know the story about Adam and Eve, the first humans. Though God is self-sufficient, He created humans so He could have a relationship with us. He intended for Adam and Eve and their descendants to live forever, as they had access to endless life on earth. However, He also gave Adam and Eve and the rest of their race free will. They had the ability to disobey God, but they chose to obey Him anyway, out of love. That is why God gave them free will; if they had no choice but to love Him, their love would be meaningless. You can't love or be loved by a robot, can you? Lucifer (Satan), also having free will, was the first creature ever to rebel against God, and eventually convinced Adam and Eve to do the same. Of course they felt terrible afterward, but the damage was done. They had damaged their connection to God, and that's where entropy and decay entered the universe, the very reason things don't work properly today, why our bodies degenerate, etc. The universe no longer works properly because Adam and Eve broke it when they first sinned. So, originally when God created us, the concept of death actually did not exist. But now that the universe was broken, death was inevitable. So, God chose to offer us an opportunity for life after our death on earth. That's why this is all necessary. Wow, that was a kinda long explanation, but it's not really complicated...that work for ya?

This is a bit off topic, but it is more of an argument to a few of Bloody's questions and statements.

Well, as I said before in the "artificial intelligence" topic, I pointed out that if we can give robots human traits, and have them able to learn from their enviroment, it should be possible for them to love, and they would have the same amount of free will, as well.

If you need any clarification, look back on "free will" and "artificial intelligence".

i agree with abortion completely. But of course peolpe will unfortunetly abuse their right to use it. Even if you are against abortion think of what it would be like for a women to be raiped anbd then have to give birth to the child. Its's pretty obvious what she would be reminded of every single time she looked at him. And of cases involving child abuse. One of the most popular novels out today about child abuse it a book called IT. (its a series)

I'm for abortion, I think that if a women can't support a child or was ***** or abused she shouldn't have to have the child. Or if she is a teen in most cases she wouldn't be mentally or physically to care for it. I see where people are coming from that say it is murder, and a lot of people I know get mad at me for my views on this, but I think that if that child is going to have a horrible life and it is going to bring you down too then abortion may be the answer. Of course you could always put it into the adoption system, up to the women having the child, and if the man is around then he should have some say in it also. But in the end it's the women's decision.

abortions should only occure in a **** or to protect the mother.

I personally believe life starts when the heart beats, that is usually in the first few weeks.