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i agree with tanstaafl28, we should work to stop unwanted pregnancy from happening, and teach sex-ed in schools. Although the truth is, teens and others will never completely stop having sex just for love, it just won't happen. I also think that the sex taboo in school subjects is bull. This generation has(in my experience) been raised to be less offended by the open conversation about sex. All these god ****ed old people who were raised by different standards should stop whining about "protecting the children", lets face it, sex is a common topic in even 6th grade and the banning of sex related stuff in school( and I'm not talking like dildos and stuff, that's just wrong) is retarded.

I'd agree with a lot of that but what do you mean by sex related stuff? Also just they don't whine i mean if you look back they were a bit more succesful with there...generation. Also don't call them that, thats a bit harsh considering some people are still christians(like me :p)

Also don't call them that, thats a bit harsh considering some people are still christians(like me :p)

So, if they weren't Christians, we could insult them?

So, if they weren't Christians, we could insult them?

no...? But I'm fairly sure thats what he was refering to...honestly christian, muslim, catholic, whatever thats a really harsh and dare i saw ignorant term.

ok here is my point of view.
i think that it is wrong here is why if people put other people to jail why shouldn't the women that kill there baby put to jail the baby is a living thing as soon as it is in the stomach you know.

What my peers here think?
I would like to try and avoid a buch of rabid Catholics and Christians falling back only on the religious reasons and what have you. However, I do not see how that can be dodged.
My view? I'm for it. If a woman wants to get one, it is her choice. Some people seem to act like if one woman gets an abortion, it means that all the rest have to. If the child in question is not yours, butt out.
Also, on a lighter note, I say that abortions should be allowed when kids are up to 18 years old. That would solve a lot of headaches, eh?

Unfortunately, the argument concerning abortion is an irrational one. Should access to legal and clean abortions be permitted? I believe it should. Should abortion degenerate into a method of birth control? I think it should not.

Because this debate is irrational, neither side wants to look for a compromise solution. If everyone could just take a step back and recognize that there can be a common goal that would achieve the objectives of both sides. All it takes is time and committment.

The pro-life focus has been on ending legal abortion. The pro-abortion focus has been on defending it. This is a veritable stalemate looking for one thing or another to tip the balance. This approach by both groups ignores the cause and attacks the effect.

The cause of abortion is unwanted pregnancy, the effect is an abortion. Logically, the answer is not to waste resources attempting to abridge legal abortion, but to spend more resources preventing unwanted pregnancies. Reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies will naturally reduce the number of abortions.

How do we reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies? Through comprehensive sex education, free, or low-cost access to birth control, and instilling our young women with greater self-esteem, so they do not seek pregnancy as a means of achieving unconditional love.

Of course, this makes too much sense. As I said, the argument is irrational and highly emotionally charged. People won't listen to reason because they don't want to listen. They want total victory and will settle for nothing less. Until we learn to work together, this debate will remain a flashpoint and a wedge issue.

United we stand, divided we fall.

i agree with tanstaafl28, we should work to stop unwanted pregnancy from happening, and teach sex-ed in schools. Although the truth is, teens and others will never completely stop having sex just for love, it just won't happen. I also think that the sex taboo in school subjects is bull. This generation has(in my experience) been raised to be less offended by the open conversation about sex. All these god ****ed old people who were raised by different standards should stop whining about "protecting the children", lets face it, sex is a common topic in even 6th grade and the banning of sex related stuff in school( and I'm not talking like dildos and stuff, that's just wrong) is retarded.

Unfortunately, it's a highly emotional issue and people are not willing to look at it rationally.

I don't think abortion should be allowed. If a woman is pregnant, and she doesn't want to take care of the child, then you just destroy a life?  People always say that the woman has the right to choose about having an abortion, but did the child have a say in it?   If someone murdered someone else, wouldn't you want them to go to jail?  It's exactly the same with abortion, your still killing a human being.

I don't think abortion should be allowed. If a woman is pregnant, and she doesn't want to take care of the child, then you just destroy a life?  People always say that the woman has the right to choose about having an abortion, but did the child have a say in it?   If someone murdered someone else, wouldn't you want them to go to jail?  It's exactly the same with abortion, your still killing a human being.

The law disagrees with your position. With very few exceptions, the legal definition of life is deemed to begin at birth, not conception.

This nation is founded on freedom of choice and conscience. If one does not believe in abortion, they do not have to get one. Abortion should not be considered a method of birth control, but it should be a private medical decision between a doctor and their patient.

What happens when abortion is made illegal? It goes underground, becomes unsanitary, and leads to more deaths. It also means more children are born to impoverished and unfit families, which will likely contribute to an increase in criminal activities. More will suffer. It is one thing to have noble ideals, it is another to employ them in an impractical attempt to legislate morality.

If "Pro-Lifers" were so concerned with ending abortion, they would concentrate more energy on preventing unwanted pregnancies. Instead, they want to turn the whole issue into an overly melodramatic "moral crusade" that hurts more than it helps.

If I was aborted, I wouldn't care at all, because I never would have cognitively acknowledged my own existence.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you don't start thinking until your born.  And wouldn't you rather have not been born as apposed to causing the parent financial issues.  And in the case of molestation, I'm completely unapposed to abortions - you don't have to have a kid until you're ready to.