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NinjaMouse
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Lets face it, armorpoints, everyone knows what they are, and everyone wants them. People on this site always thing about getting them, the best stragaties, best way and the worst ways, but think about this, have armor points taken over?
Background
Armorgames is a great site, it has many great exclusive games such as Sonny, Age of War and Fancy Pants Adventures, but recently (As of Jan 8. as a matter of fact) they have introduced armor points, the idea was great, enjoy the site and get rewarded for it.
flaws
As I have recently stated, armorpoints are a great way to get people involved in the site, however some problems remain in the system of scoring.
#1. No points awarded for actually PLAYING the games. Anyone can spam a game comment with just
"Love it" "Hate it" I admit I used to do that but really, who are we to comment on the opinion of others? It is a legitimate response, but isn't fair to those who truly want to earn those points.
#2. Merits, who cares? Sure people do help out this site but, who wants to waste ten or so minutes for just 25 points when you can get those easily (for more info see #1)
#3. Referalls, now this is just stupid, we have people asking moderaters how to get someone to apply for a referall so they can "get the points they diserve" how dumb is that? They are CLEARLY doing this just for an easy 10 points. Just look on your user profile it will likly say: So-and-so, ranked #1323ish out of 40000ish users. 40000! Where did they come from?! I mean this truly, how many different people do you see around here with points lets say...50 or more, about 10000 at the MOST where have the other 30000 come from? Obviouly some one made them up to get a quick 10 AP
Solutions
It's true, no problem is impossible to solve the same goes for armor points. Answers correspond to the problems listed above.
#1. This idea comes from Newgrounds, when rating or responding to a game, just simply block the players from rating until one or so minutes, or however long the MODS will think for them to make a serious answer. That way, players can acctually PLAY the game to get the points honestly.
#2. Merits are a great way to allow players to get some serious points for posting honest and helpful topics, but the "temptation to help isn't great enough, insted raise the points rewarded from 25 AP to about 50 AP give or take a few.
#3. Refferals, like the Merits above, people are tempted to make fake accounts the answer is to simply lower the points given during refferals OR reward them with a Non-point award, like a new aviator or something.
DISCLAMOR:
I relize that not everyone will agree with me, this is a very loose topic, what really upsets me is that they won't read the rather long post I have just made, if you have read this far, please post a "+" next to your post in you agree with this post or "-" if you do not, otherwise, your post will be ignored.

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cooldudeman
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cooldudeman
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Nomad

+ your right i accendently pressed the sumbmit butten a lot of times and i got 90 pionts (did not do on purpuse)+
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plokkey
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4,571 posts
Jester

-Armorgames is not about points.its just an addition to the site.live with it, dunno about the spammers tho.i hate it when people ONLY care for the points

Breakinggood
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Nomad

Hey man, i wouldn't truly go hardcore on this idea. My post "Make Ratings Fair" was shot down so to speak. If you want your ideas out there, put them in emails sent to the MODS of Armorgames.

plokkey
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well here are the problems:

1:half and half. i agree, just like the 30 seconds between spammage, but first impression is also a vital play into the rating of games

2:- it is unfair to people who already have like 50 merits.They would have twice as much points and will rule the would. maybe make the points of merits less the higher rank you are?KoG isnt based on merits, he is based on comments, so it would be unfair for him and other non-merit type people. Some people dont even get noticed for their merits.

3: -i think they would know if its a fake referral,10 points is little enough. who would waste their timecreating account after account............

well thats what i think so overall it is -

conquer01
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conquer01
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Funny...I didn't realize you could refer people, and then they never go on. It should be that they have to get 20 or something AP before you get the refer points.

plokkey
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plokkey
4,571 posts
Jester

yea i agree with conquer01 100%!!!

dgw91
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+Yeah I do like your ideas. Another thing you could do with referalls though is to make each account have a different ip address witch I thought they already did that way it would be impossible for someone to spam a lot of accounts from one computer.+

gman1000
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+You are absolutely right. I think Armor Points need some improvements.

plokkey
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plokkey
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Jester

what if your in a library or something? same IP address

Alien_Galaxion_X
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Alien_Galaxion_X
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Nomad

I know armorgames need some improvement. Some people make extra accounts and refer them and leave them alone forever. I'm glad of the email confirmation.

Drognar
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Drognar
534 posts
Nomad

Yeah, I agree these stupid refer accounts need to stop, but look around the forums are active with a variety of members, theres definetly no 90%, maybe 60% inactive members.

plokkey
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plokkey
4,571 posts
Jester

2/3 of the AG population dont have points.

has been tested with my other account(i didnt refer it dont worry, that other referal was my friend)

Drognar
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Drognar
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Nomad

2/3 of the AG population dont have points.
has been tested with my other account(i didnt refer it dont worry, that other referal was my friend)


How long ago was that? Anyway, we'd still have 30,000 active members at that rate.
plokkey
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How long ago was that? Anyway, we'd still have 30,000 active members at that rate.


5 minutes ago.

no not 30,000 active members, 30,000 members with atleat one point
steevo15
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+

-stands up and applauds NinjaMouse-

thank you very much for pointing out the obviousness that no one seems to understand in AG. i have noticed this very often too, i completely 100% wholeheartedly agree with you. I think the best way to solve all problems is to take away the points system, but still have the ranking system.

What i am trying to say is this:

The whole points system is taken away from the normal users, so they cannot really see how many points they have.

But they still keep the ranking system (serf, squire, knight etc..etc..) The ranking system will not be based on how many points you have but how active you are in the community. I feel that if the users cannot see how many points they have, they will not be so concerned about them. But only the mods would be able to see your points and they would still be able to take away points and stuff.

Lets face it, currently the points are not based on how active you are in the AG community, they are based on how many comments you can make on a game, or how many games you can rate in a minute, or how many stupid comments you can make on the forums.

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