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it lookslike it could be possible, but the US is stretched to the limit. Obama says he will pull out of iraq, but not just so we can put them right back into battle

We can't just "Pull out of Iraq" Soldiers have to stay as a security detail then. switching them in and out monthly or yearly.

This is just bull and America needs to turn this decline upwards.

i don't believe the pentagon wants to turn this "war on the waters" into a conventional war like iraq or afghanistan

They've been in a state of war and anarchy for 17 years. Every time a new government comes to power, the US or Ethiopia immediately overthrow it, leading to more chaos, anarchy, and piracy. There is no government, no jobs, no money, so people rely on piracy and criminal activity. We need to get out of Somalia and stop bugging them.

There will be no war .
They have to protect there on waters , not america.

PIRATES FTW

Oh, undoubtedly. There are 250 hostages being held and 4 more ships were seized yesterday. The pirates have basically declared war.

Let me briefly sum up Somalia's history, as I think people need a little bit of perspective before they cast their votes to turn Somalia into a nuclear wasteland.

1969: Military dictator comes to power. He rules for 22 years, financed heavily by the USSR then the US. He rules with an iron fist. There are no elections.

1991: Mohammed Aidid and other militia leaders overthrow him. Aidid becomes a national hero to many.

Then the international community, in its infinite wisdom, sends in aid, believing this is the best time to do so, despite the fact most Somalians hate the West with a passion for propping up a ruthless dictator for 22 years. Unsurprisingly it doesn't go well. Food can't be distributed through territories with conflicted leadership.The US decides to try and capture head honchos in Aidid(the hero's) organisation.

It is a total nightmare.

Americans clueless about the history shrug and say ''screw it''.

Then over the next 15 years, Somalian waters are ransacked for all their fish by Spain, the US, China and Taiwan. Mafia-connected Italian companies on waste disposal contracts drop toxic waste into Somalian waters, washing up on shore and killing some and causing horrible health effects for many others.

Oh, and I almost forgot. In 2001 Black Hawk Down was made, a ridiculously over the top film that went on far too long, successfully indoctrinating a generation that the US and the West were only trying to help the wickid Africans from their own ways.

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Here's a question:

What's worse, not wanting to live a life of poverty, you turn to crime, kidnapping and stealing from those who are stealing from you and have turned your country into a craphole OR continuously illegally stealing a countries fish supply worth $300 million a year amd then selling it giving said country nothing in return?

@firefly: Good response, but any sources?

Having a reason to hate the US doesn't justify their actions.

My solution? Kill all the pirates you can find. Maybe they'll think twice, next time. And yes, there will always be a 'next time'.