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Posted Apr 16, '12 at 7:53pm

ihsahn

ihsahn

431 posts

funk and disco are also subgenres of rock. all three hip-hop, funk, disco, they all have no outside influences other than rock. thus they are subgenres of rock.

Soul, Rhythm and Blues, Gospel, Pop, latin music, doo-wop. All influences on Funk and/or Disco.

Rock isn't nearly as broad a term as you think it is.

 

Posted Apr 17, '12 at 3:47pm

wolfboystev693

wolfboystev693

32 posts

You agree with me that there's no point in judging entire genres of music, then turn around and say this.

What.
Yeah but I just cant stand people saying rock is better than rap. :)

[i]For example, Metallicas ballads are very inspirational. And Amon Amarth, which is a sort of heavy metal-ish Folk metal, has many good inspirational songs too (not ballads). However there are some heavy metal bands that aren't inspirational at all.

OK, show me one inspirational heavy metal song.

Its very weird having Rock Vs Rap cause they are so diff, Rap is a small Genre but Rock is very big u have, Alt Rock, Pop Rock, Punk Rock, Heavy Metal, Classical rock and Etc, so its not really i can chose upon since i like both, but if they were levelled to each other i would chose ROCK.

Dude you have no idea how many types of rap there are, here are what I know.
Alternative hip hop -Ex. De La Soul, Jungle Brothers, A Tribe Called Quest, and Digable Planets

Christian hip hop - Lecrae, Grits.

Comedy hip hop - Lonely Island, Wierd Al

Conscious hip hop - Talib Kweli Common

Country-rap - Cowboy Troy, Nappy Roots

Crunk - Lil Jon

Crunkcore - 3OH!3, Ke$ha, Hollywood Undead

Electro hop - Afrika Bambaataa Mantronix, Man Parrish, Jonzun Crew, Newcleus, Planet Patrol

Freestyle rap - Big L, Supernatural, MC Juice, Iron Soloman.

G-Funk - Dr. Dre, Cold 187um, Xzibit, Westside Connection, Too $hort

Gangsta rap - NWA, Ice-T, BDP

Grime - Rool Deep, M.I.A

Hardcore hip hop - Run-D.M.C., Schoolly D, Boogie Down Productions, Public Enemy, and Kool G Rap

Hip hop soul - Mary J. Blige, Jodeci, and Aaliyah

House music - Blaze, Blue Pearl

Horrorcore - D12 and Eminem, Necro, Ganksta N-I-P, Esham.

Hyphy - Keak Da Sneak, E-40

Instrumental hip hop - DJ Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaataa, Pete Rock, RJD2

Jazz rap - The Native Tounges

Mafioso rap - Kool G Rap, AZ, Jay-Z

Nerdcore hip hop - Optimous Rhyme, MC Frontalot, MC Chris

Political hip hop - Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five

Pop-rap - Lil Wayne, Drake

Rap rock - 24-7 Spyz, Faith No More, Living Colour, Rage Against the Machine and Red Hot Chili Peppers

Snap music - Dem Franchize Boyz, D4L

Turntablism - A Track, DJ AM, 8 ball, DJ Shadow

 

Posted Apr 17, '12 at 8:38pm

ihsahn

ihsahn

431 posts

OK, show me one inspirational heavy metal song.

I won't be able to, because you've already made up your mind towards the genre.
It's as stupid to say that "all metal music isn't inspirational" as it is to say that "all yellow things are ugly". You make it a self-fulfilling standard by adhering to it.

Who even said that all music should try to be "inspirational", anyway? Some bands try to be aggressive, some bands try to be weird and original, some try to be groovy, some try to be epic.

But I still would try, if I knew what "inspirational" means to you.

 

Posted Apr 17, '12 at 11:20pm

KhaoticSniper

KhaoticSniper

199 posts

Dude you have no idea how many types of rap there are, here are what I know.
Alternative hip hop -Ex. De La Soul, Jungle Brothers, A Tribe Called Quest, and Digable Planets
ahhahaha Guess i do have no idea!

 

Posted Apr 21, '12 at 2:02pm

Lendek

Lendek

45 posts

Dude you have no idea how many types of rap there are, here are what I know.
Alternative hip hop -Ex. De La Soul, Jungle Brothers, A Tribe Called Quest, and Digable Planets

Christian hip hop - Lecrae, Grits.

Comedy hip hop - Lonely Island, Wierd Al

Conscious hip hop - Talib Kweli Common

Country-rap - Cowboy Troy, Nappy Roots

Crunk - Lil Jon

Crunkcore - 3OH!3, Ke$ha, Hollywood Undead

Electro hop - Afrika Bambaataa Mantronix, Man Parrish, Jonzun Crew, Newcleus, Planet Patrol

Freestyle rap - Big L, Supernatural, MC Juice, Iron Soloman.

G-Funk - Dr. Dre, Cold 187um, Xzibit, Westside Connection, Too $hort

Gangsta rap - NWA, Ice-T, BDP

Grime - Rool Deep, M.I.A

Hardcore hip hop - Run-D.M.C., Schoolly D, Boogie Down Productions, Public Enemy, and Kool G Rap

Hip hop soul - Mary J. Blige, Jodeci, and Aaliyah

House music - Blaze, Blue Pearl

Horrorcore - D12 and Eminem, Necro, Ganksta N-I-P, Esham.

Hyphy - Keak Da Sneak, E-40

Instrumental hip hop - DJ Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaataa, Pete Rock, RJD2

Jazz rap - The Native Tounges

Mafioso rap - Kool G Rap, AZ, Jay-Z

Nerdcore hip hop - Optimous Rhyme, MC Frontalot, MC Chris

Political hip hop - Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five

Pop-rap - Lil Wayne, Drake

Rap rock - 24-7 Spyz, Faith No More, Living Colour, Rage Against the Machine and Red Hot Chili Peppers

Snap music - Dem Franchize Boyz, D4L

Turntablism - A Track, DJ AM, 8 ball, DJ Shadow

Now all rock genres:     

    2 Tone
    Acid rock
    Afro punk
    Afro prog
    Alternative country
    Alternative dance
    Alternative metal
    Alternative rock
    Anatolian rock
    Art punk
    Art rock
    Avant-garde metal
    Baroque pop
    Baggy
    Bandana Thrash
    Beat
    Bent edge
    Big beat
    Bisrock
    Black/doom
    Black metal
    Blackened death metal
    Blues-rock
    Britpop
    C86
    Canterbury sound
    Cello rock
    Celtic punk
    Celtic metal
    Celtic rock
    Chicano rock
    Christcore
    Christian metal
    Christian punk
    Christian rock
    Coldwave
    College rock
    Comedy rock
    Country rock
    Cowpunk
    Crossover thrash
    Crunkcore
    Crust punk
    Crustgrind
    Cybergrind
    Dance-punk
    Dance-rock
    Dark cabaret
    Darkwave
    D-beat
    Death 'n' roll
    Deathcore
    Death/doom
    Deathgrind
    Death metal
    Death punk
    Death rock
    Digital hardcore
    Djent
    Doom metal
    Dream pop
    Drone metal
    Dunedin sound
    Electric folk
    Electronic hardcore
    Electronic rock
    Electroclash
    Electro punk
    Emo
    Emo violence
    Epic doom
    Ethereal Wave
    Experimental rock
    Extreme metal
    Folk metal
    Folk punk
    Folk rock
    Freakbeat
    Funeral doom
    Funk metal
    Funk rock
    Garage punk
    Garage rock
    Garage rock revival
    Glam metal
    Glam punk
    Glam rock
    Goregrind
    Gothabilly
    Gothic metal
    Gothic rock
    Grebo
    Grimecore
    Grindcore
    Grindie
    Groove metal
    Group Sounds
    Grunge
    Grungecore
    Gypsy punk
    Hatecore
    Hard rock
    Hardcore punk
    Heartland rock
    Heavy metal
    Horror punk
    Indie pop
    Indie rock
    Indietronica
    Indorock
    Industrial black metal
    Industrial death metal
    Industrial metal
    Industrial rock
    Industrial thrash metal
    Instrumental rock
    Jam rock
    Jangle pop
    Jazz rock
    Jersey Shore sound
    Krautrock
    Lo-fi
    Madchester
    Manguebeat
    Manila Sound
    Mathcore
    Math rock
    Medieval folk rock
    Medieval metal
    Melodic black metal
    Melodic death metal
    Melodic hardcore
    Melodic metalcore
    Metalcore
    Mod revival
    Nardcore
    Nazi punk
    Neue Deutsche Härte
    Neue Deutsche Welle
    Neo-classical metal
    Neoclassical dark wave
    Neo-folk
    Neo-prog
    Neo-psychedelia
    New prog
    New rave
    New wave
    New Wave of British Heavy Metal
    New Wave of New Wave
    New Weird America
    Nintendocore
    Noisecore
    Noisegrind
    Noise pop
    Noise rock
    No wave
    Nu gaze
    Nu metal
    Oi!
    Ostrock
    Pagan metal
    Pagan rock
    Paisley underground
    Pinoy rock
    Pop punk
    Pop rock
    Pornogrind
    Post-Britpop
    Post-grunge
    Post-hardcore
    Post-metal
    Post-punk
    Post-punk revival
    Post-rock
    Power pop
    Power metal
    Powerviolence
    Progressive metal
    Progressive rock
    Protopunk
    Psychedelic rock
    Psychobilly
    Punk blues
    Punk jazz
    Punk rock
    Punkcore
    Queercore
    Raga rock
    Rapcore
    Rap metal
    Rap rock
    Reggae rock
    Riot grrrl
    Rock Against Communism
    Rock and roll
    Rockabilly
    Rock in Opposition
    Rock noir
    Roots rock
    Sadcore
    Samba-rock
    Screamo
    Shoegazing
    Shock rock
    Ska-core
    Ska punk
    Skate punk
    Skate rock
    Slowcore
    Sludge metal
    Soft rock
    Southern metal
    Southern rock
    Southern sludge
    Space rock
    Speed metal
    Straight edge
    Stoner doom
    Stoner metal
    Stoner rock
    Stoner sludge
    Street punk
    Sufi rock
    Sunshine pop
    Surfabilly
    Surf music
    Swamp pop
    Swedish death metal
    Symphonic black metal
    Symphonic gothic metal
    Symphonic metal
    Symphonic power metal
    Symphonic rock
    Synthpop
    Taqwacore
    Technical death metal
    Third Wave Ska
    Thrashabilly
    Thrashcore
    Thrash metal
    Trashabilly
    Trip rock
    Tulsa Sound
    Twee pop
    Unblack metal
    Viking metal
    Viking rock
    Visual kei
    Youth Crew
    War metal
    Wizard rock
    Zeuhl

rap still small :/

 

Posted Apr 30, '12 at 6:39pm

COD6

COD6

27 posts

rap is where its at

 

Posted May 3, '12 at 10:09am

Kaidou16

Kaidou16

18 posts

Rap. Definitely rap. With rap, you can make the lyrics from your heart, and they can actually be heard, unlike in screamo. I have nothing against rock though. It's just screamo that I dislike. A bunch of weird people screaming about some toy they lost in first grade or something.

 

Posted May 3, '12 at 12:28pm

thepyro222

thepyro222

1,986 posts

i love rock, i like linkon park the best

LINKIN park isn't rock. That's rap, kid.

 

Posted May 3, '12 at 12:55pm

AceofSky

AceofSky

728 posts

LINKIN park isn't rock. That's rap, kid.

Arguably, that could be rock, like their first few songs, but I agree more rap.

Also, I believe rap is based off of Rock and Roll. Rock and Roll was created before rap...I think lol?

 

Posted May 3, '12 at 8:03pm

ihsahn

ihsahn

431 posts

LINKIN park isn't rock. That's rap, kid.

Nah, they're rock alright, they're just terrible. I understand that you'd want to blame them on someone else.
While they do incorporate rap in their songs they're still very much within the "nu-metal" cliché. Hence my saying that "Rap" isn't a genre but a skill; "hip hop" is the genre.

Also, I believe rap is based off of Rock and Roll.

Not even distantly. It comes from Soul, R&B, spoken word, Disco, gospel and such.

As for which came first... I'd guess Rock. I mean, it's been around since the 50's at least.