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Posted Apr 16, '12 at 7:53pm

ihsahn

ihsahn

431 posts

funk and disco are also subgenres of rock. all three hip-hop, funk, disco, they all have no outside influences other than rock. thus they are subgenres of rock.

Soul, Rhythm and Blues, Gospel, Pop, latin music, doo-wop. All influences on Funk and/or Disco.

Rock isn't nearly as broad a term as you think it is.
 

Posted Apr 17, '12 at 3:47pm

wolfboystev693

wolfboystev693

32 posts

You agree with me that there's no point in judging entire genres of music, then turn around and say this.

What.
Yeah but I just cant stand people saying rock is better than rap. :)

[i]For example, Metallicas ballads are very inspirational. And Amon Amarth, which is a sort of heavy metal-ish Folk metal, has many good inspirational songs too (not ballads). However there are some heavy metal bands that aren't inspirational at all.

OK, show me one inspirational heavy metal song.

Its very weird having Rock Vs Rap cause they are so diff, Rap is a small Genre but Rock is very big u have, Alt Rock, Pop Rock, Punk Rock, Heavy Metal, Classical rock and Etc, so its not really i can chose upon since i like both, but if they were levelled to each other i would chose ROCK.

Dude you have no idea how many types of rap there are, here are what I know.
Alternative hip hop -Ex. De La Soul, Jungle Brothers, A Tribe Called Quest, and Digable Planets

Christian hip hop - Lecrae, Grits.

Comedy hip hop - Lonely Island, Wierd Al

Conscious hip hop - Talib Kweli Common

Country-rap - Cowboy Troy, Nappy Roots

Crunk - Lil Jon

Crunkcore - 3OH!3, Ke$ha, Hollywood Undead

Electro hop - Afrika Bambaataa Mantronix, Man Parrish, Jonzun Crew, Newcleus, Planet Patrol

Freestyle rap - Big L, Supernatural, MC Juice, Iron Soloman.

G-Funk - Dr. Dre, Cold 187um, Xzibit, Westside Connection, Too $hort

Gangsta rap - NWA, Ice-T, BDP

Grime - Rool Deep, M.I.A

Hardcore hip hop - Run-D.M.C., Schoolly D, Boogie Down Productions, Public Enemy, and Kool G Rap

Hip hop soul - Mary J. Blige, Jodeci, and Aaliyah

House music - Blaze, Blue Pearl

Horrorcore - D12 and Eminem, Necro, Ganksta N-I-P, Esham.

Hyphy - Keak Da Sneak, E-40

Instrumental hip hop - DJ Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaataa, Pete Rock, RJD2

Jazz rap - The Native Tounges

Mafioso rap - Kool G Rap, AZ, Jay-Z

Nerdcore hip hop - Optimous Rhyme, MC Frontalot, MC Chris

Political hip hop - Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five

Pop-rap - Lil Wayne, Drake

Rap rock - 24-7 Spyz, Faith No More, Living Colour, Rage Against the Machine and Red Hot Chili Peppers

Snap music - Dem Franchize Boyz, D4L

Turntablism - A Track, DJ AM, 8 ball, DJ Shadow

 

Posted Apr 17, '12 at 8:38pm

ihsahn

ihsahn

431 posts

OK, show me one inspirational heavy metal song.

I won't be able to, because you've already made up your mind towards the genre.
It's as stupid to say that "all metal music isn't inspirational" as it is to say that "all yellow things are ugly". You make it a self-fulfilling standard by adhering to it.

Who even said that all music should try to be "inspirational", anyway? Some bands try to be aggressive, some bands try to be weird and original, some try to be groovy, some try to be epic.

But I still would try, if I knew what "inspirational" means to you.
 

Posted Apr 17, '12 at 11:20pm

KhaoticSniper

KhaoticSniper

215 posts

[quote]Dude you have no idea how many types of rap there are, here are what I know.
Alternative hip hop -Ex. De La Soul, Jungle Brothers, A Tribe Called Quest, and Digable Planets
ahhahaha Guess i do have no idea!

 

Posted Apr 21, '12 at 2:02pm

Lendek

Lendek

45 posts

Dude you have no idea how many types of rap there are, here are what I know.
Alternative hip hop -Ex. De La Soul, Jungle Brothers, A Tribe Called Quest, and Digable Planets

Christian hip hop - Lecrae, Grits.

Comedy hip hop - Lonely Island, Wierd Al

Conscious hip hop - Talib Kweli Common

Country-rap - Cowboy Troy, Nappy Roots

Crunk - Lil Jon

Crunkcore - 3OH!3, Ke$ha, Hollywood Undead

Electro hop - Afrika Bambaataa Mantronix, Man Parrish, Jonzun Crew, Newcleus, Planet Patrol

Freestyle rap - Big L, Supernatural, MC Juice, Iron Soloman.

G-Funk - Dr. Dre, Cold 187um, Xzibit, Westside Connection, Too $hort

Gangsta rap - NWA, Ice-T, BDP

Grime - Rool Deep, M.I.A

Hardcore hip hop - Run-D.M.C., Schoolly D, Boogie Down Productions, Public Enemy, and Kool G Rap

Hip hop soul - Mary J. Blige, Jodeci, and Aaliyah

House music - Blaze, Blue Pearl

Horrorcore - D12 and Eminem, Necro, Ganksta N-I-P, Esham.

Hyphy - Keak Da Sneak, E-40

Instrumental hip hop - DJ Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaataa, Pete Rock, RJD2

Jazz rap - The Native Tounges

Mafioso rap - Kool G Rap, AZ, Jay-Z

Nerdcore hip hop - Optimous Rhyme, MC Frontalot, MC Chris

Political hip hop - Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five

Pop-rap - Lil Wayne, Drake

Rap rock - 24-7 Spyz, Faith No More, Living Colour, Rage Against the Machine and Red Hot Chili Peppers

Snap music - Dem Franchize Boyz, D4L

Turntablism - A Track, DJ AM, 8 ball, DJ Shadow



Now all rock genres:

2 Tone
Acid rock
Afro punk
Afro prog
Alternative country
Alternative dance
Alternative metal
Alternative rock
Anatolian rock
Art punk
Art rock
Avant-garde metal
Baroque pop
Baggy
Bandana Thrash
Beat
Bent edge
Big beat
Bisrock
Black/doom
Black metal
Blackened death metal
Blues-rock
Britpop
C86
Canterbury sound
Cello rock
Celtic punk
Celtic metal
Celtic rock
Chicano rock
Christcore
Christian metal
Christian punk
Christian rock
Coldwave
College rock
Comedy rock
Country rock
Cowpunk
Crossover thrash
Crunkcore
Crust punk
Crustgrind
Cybergrind
Dance-punk
Dance-rock
Dark cabaret
Darkwave
D-beat
Death 'n' roll
Deathcore
Death/doom
Deathgrind
Death metal
Death punk
Death rock
Digital hardcore
Djent
Doom metal
Dream pop
Drone metal
Dunedin sound
Electric folk
Electronic hardcore
Electronic rock
Electroclash
Electro punk
Emo
Emo violence
Epic doom
Ethereal Wave
Experimental rock
Extreme metal
Folk metal
Folk punk
Folk rock
Freakbeat
Funeral doom
Funk metal
Funk rock
Garage punk
Garage rock
Garage rock revival
Glam metal
Glam punk
Glam rock
Goregrind
Gothabilly
Gothic metal
Gothic rock
Grebo
Grimecore
Grindcore
Grindie
Groove metal
Group Sounds
Grunge
Grungecore
Gypsy punk
Hatecore
Hard rock
Hardcore punk
Heartland rock
Heavy metal
Horror punk
Indie pop
Indie rock
Indietronica
Indorock
Industrial black metal
Industrial death metal
Industrial metal
Industrial rock
Industrial thrash metal
Instrumental rock
Jam rock
Jangle pop
Jazz rock
Jersey Shore sound
Krautrock
Lo-fi
Madchester
Manguebeat
Manila Sound
Mathcore
Math rock
Medieval folk rock
Medieval metal
Melodic black metal
Melodic death metal
Melodic hardcore
Melodic metalcore
Metalcore
Mod revival
Nardcore
Nazi punk
Neue Deutsche Härte
Neue Deutsche Welle
Neo-classical metal
Neoclassical dark wave
Neo-folk
Neo-prog
Neo-psychedelia
New prog
New rave
New wave
New Wave of British Heavy Metal
New Wave of New Wave
New Weird America
Nintendocore
Noisecore
Noisegrind
Noise pop
Noise rock
No wave
Nu gaze
Nu metal
Oi!
Ostrock
Pagan metal
Pagan rock
Paisley underground
Pinoy rock
Pop punk
Pop rock
Pornogrind
Post-Britpop
Post-grunge
Post-hardcore
Post-metal
Post-punk
Post-punk revival
Post-rock
Power pop
Power metal
Powerviolence
Progressive metal
Progressive rock
Protopunk
Psychedelic rock
Psychobilly
Punk blues
Punk jazz
Punk rock
Punkcore
Queercore
Raga rock
Rapcore
Rap metal
Rap rock
Reggae rock
Riot grrrl
Rock Against Communism
Rock and roll
Rockabilly
Rock in Opposition
Rock noir
Roots rock
Sadcore
Samba-rock
Screamo
Shoegazing
Shock rock
Ska-core
Ska punk
Skate punk
Skate rock
Slowcore
Sludge metal
Soft rock
Southern metal
Southern rock
Southern sludge
Space rock
Speed metal
Straight edge
Stoner doom
Stoner metal
Stoner rock
Stoner sludge
Street punk
Sufi rock
Sunshine pop
Surfabilly
Surf music
Swamp pop
Swedish death metal
Symphonic black metal
Symphonic gothic metal
Symphonic metal
Symphonic power metal
Symphonic rock
Synthpop
Taqwacore
Technical death metal
Third Wave Ska
Thrashabilly
Thrashcore
Thrash metal
Trashabilly
Trip rock
Tulsa Sound
Twee pop
Unblack metal
Viking metal
Viking rock
Visual kei
Youth Crew
War metal
Wizard rock
Zeuhl

rap still small :/
 

Posted Apr 30, '12 at 6:39pm

COD6

COD6

28 posts

rap is where its at

 

Posted May 3, '12 at 10:09am

Kaidou16

Kaidou16

20 posts

Rap. Definitely rap. With rap, you can make the lyrics from your heart, and they can actually be heard, unlike in screamo. I have nothing against rock though. It's just screamo that I dislike. A bunch of weird people screaming about some toy they lost in first grade or something.

 

Posted May 3, '12 at 12:28pm

thepyro222

thepyro222

2,187 posts

i love rock, i like linkon park the best
LINKIN park isn't rock. That's rap, kid.
 

Posted May 3, '12 at 12:55pm

AceofSky

AceofSky

782 posts

LINKIN park isn't rock. That's rap, kid.

Arguably, that could be rock, like their first few songs, but I agree more rap.

Also, I believe rap is based off of Rock and Roll. Rock and Roll was created before rap...I think lol?
 

Posted May 3, '12 at 8:03pm

ihsahn

ihsahn

431 posts

LINKIN park isn't rock. That's rap, kid.


Nah, they're rock alright, they're just terrible. I understand that you'd want to blame them on someone else.
While they do incorporate rap in their songs they're still very much within the "nu-metal" cliché. Hence my saying that "Rap" isn't a genre but a skill; "hip hop" is the genre.

Also, I believe rap is based off of Rock and Roll.

Not even distantly. It comes from Soul, R&B, spoken word, Disco, gospel and such.

As for which came first... I'd guess Rock. I mean, it's been around since the 50's at least.