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Posted Apr 24, '09 at 9:16am

Pixie214

Pixie214

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DDX are there any other situations or is this one it for the thread?

 

Posted Apr 24, '09 at 9:28am

czecha

czecha

148 posts

One question: What is the scenario for if you say one has to die and one survives? You could just say sth like "Either you or your friend has to die a horrible death. Do you choose yourself or him?" Anyways, this is really hypothetical (which is wanted i know)as you never know if you have a chance to survive. If I knew either my friend or me has to die I would propably want to survive (especially because of the horrible death). If I wouldn't, my action should depend (being rational) on how (in my opinion) likely it is to:
-not getting seen after my friend died
or
-me surviving after I run out
-my friend surviving after I run out

but of course it depends the most on how selfish you are, how much you like your friend and how much you are feared or shocked.

 

Posted Apr 24, '09 at 9:34am

DDX

DDX

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yea if all of you are tired about this topic, I can pick a new one.

*gets hat of topics out*

OK. so. here how its gonna go down

=flashback scenario=

During a test you catch your best friend cheating (the answers are scribbled in a piece of paper in the palm of his hand) However, you don't really care much besides the fact that he will break the curve (meaning the teacher will give less points back due to everyone not doing so good). Everything is fine, until the next day, the teacher has the cheat sheet that your friend had, taped to the board. He then says that if no one steps up to claim it and face the consequences he will fail everyone on that test. That test is the only thing that has the leverage of letting you pass the school year without having to take summer school (below a 75% or C you have to take summer school in my school). Anyway you are faced with a dilemma. Do you turn in your friend who has helped you a lot to get a passing grade, or do you suck it up and take on summer school for him.

For the people who don't like reading:
your bestest friend in the whole world cheated on the test. Teacher wants someone to fess up, if you keep quiet he fails everyone on the test. If you turn your friend, he will probably hate you, and he will probably be expelled for cheating. Then you won't have to take summer school.

discuss.

 

Posted Apr 24, '09 at 9:38am

Pixie214

Pixie214

4,803 posts

go to summer school it is abit of extra work but if you don;t need it (assuming you would have passed the tesy if it was viable) you won;t have to do much. Plus you can hang it over your friends head and make him do stuff :)

friend who has helped you a lot to get a passing grade

I wonder why he was cheting, should have worked more on his own work than mine.

 

Posted Apr 24, '09 at 9:42am

DDX

DDX

3,470 posts

it's cause he is cheating O-O

Sorry it's not as good as the one before it... thanks to pixay I had to make it up on the spot.

 

Posted Apr 24, '09 at 9:47am

Pixie214

Pixie214

4,803 posts

Sorry it's not as good as the one before it... thanks to pixay I had to make it up on the spot.

I think it is grear :) and in my defense I asked if there were new situations not to have one right now but hey whatever thanks DDX

 

Posted Apr 24, '09 at 4:23pm

HiddenDistance

HiddenDistance

1,326 posts

Serve him up on a platter.  If he doesn't have the stones to fess up himself, he's not the kind of person I would be friends with.

 

Posted Apr 24, '09 at 10:31pm

DDX

DDX

3,470 posts

High standards huh. These are the responses I'm looking for, not one liners.

Heres my take, I would take up summer school for him, this is because I never forget favors, I don't like to owe people something. It's just a personal choice, has nothing to do with condoning cheating.

 

Posted Apr 24, '09 at 11:28pm

Somecallmetim

Somecallmetim

64 posts

I'd take summer school. I had a very similar situation occur to me in grade school and I actually did tell on my friends. They have never let me live this down, even now over 10 years later they still remind me. Learned from past mistakes.

 

Posted Apr 25, '09 at 7:37am

czecha

czecha

148 posts

It depends. If no one except you has to take summer school in fact you don't turn him in, I guess you shouldn't tell it to the teacher because he helped you to pass the grade and would be in a much worse position than you. However, if other people in your class (especially when they are not the friend of the guy who cheated) have to take summer school it would be very selfish to not tell the teacher the truth simply for the reason that they don't owe the cheater anything. Well, my opinion could be wrong because I don't know exactly what summer school is (I have a guess but in Germany we don't have that I think) and I don't know if the mark effects some sort of diploma or certificate (if that are the right words, very important aspect).