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Posted Apr 12, '10 at 8:17pm

thisisnotanalt

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See, as far as wat I know to be the inside, it's a very high-level thing taught only to black-belt level that requires a lightning-fast pivot from snap kick to roundhouse. It doesn't really look like that either, as the turn is during the first chamber, not the kick itself - the picture appears to be depicting the guy striking in the chest range and not in the side. My dad described it to me as raising your knee to your crotch as if you were going to do a front snap kick, but pivoting on your hip and forcing the power into a roundhouse kick, striking the side. It's meant as a feint, yes, but not in the way depicted.

It may be different from the picture because both of my relatives specifically studied Teruo Hayashi's school, which didn't include any jump/spin kicks, or anything like that. It is possible that Hayashi altered the technique a bit - in that instead of turning weirdly and striking the chest like the picture showed, you turn into a regular roundhouse kick. I'm thinking it would be more in line with the gyaku geri, the reverse roundhouse kick.

 

Posted Apr 12, '10 at 8:42pm

the_manta

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Keep practicing until you can blow that bag off its hinges...


Never Back Down?

Uh, inside and outside roundhouse kick? I know a reverse and a forward roundhouse... the reverse is much less useful, since you use your heel and you can't see all too well, but it's good for attacking someone behind you... granted, a backward hammer fist is just as good.

Anyway, the thing Alty's saying, the snap-pivot? I think I know what he's talking about, but my shifu never taught me much terminology. I'm pretty sure it's not just an inside roundhouse though, because as I've been taught, those are just a high sideways knee-snap with a pivot in your base foot. The outside is just a backwards version, with the heel and a back hook kick. But I dunno. Maybe your teachrar uses different terminology than mine.

BUT ANYWAY.

Results tomorrow Strop?
 

Posted Apr 12, '10 at 9:09pm

Strop

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I'm going by AG time, so the deadline is coming in approximately... 50 hours. After that I'll see if I have enough to declare it. I'll do so as soon as I can, as the next rounds are where things get interesting.

And since we have about fifty hours to go... let's continue this discussion of roundhouse kicks! What really confuses me is not the timing of the snap pivot, but its direction. If the direction of the pivot is as the picture indicates, I simply don't understand, because anatomy dictates that there are too many antagonistic movements for the movement to afford any power. But if the direction is the same as the regular roundhouse, then it makes sense. However that's just because as manta demonstrates, there's no such kick in the kickboxing repertoire.

Besides, I don't like roundhouses nearly as much as I like side kicks. Sure a good roundhouse can come out of nowhere if you're looking from behind a guard, but a side kick is like BLOCK THIS *bam*

 

Posted Apr 12, '10 at 9:19pm

Gantic

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Well... I can't start on my part until exactly 24 hours from now. That gives me 26 hours!

 

Posted Apr 12, '10 at 9:20pm

the_manta

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Personally, I just like a good back hammer fist. If you put a little torque in on that, WAPPAH! Then again, my fists are gigantic, so that works out for me in the end.

 

Posted Apr 12, '10 at 9:26pm

thisisnotanalt

thisisnotanalt

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The direction is the same as a regular roundhouse, yes. The picture was messed up.

My left leg is really flexible(standing up, I can kick my leg up and, without bending it, hit my kneecap to my head enough that it hurts[which is not a good idea; I learned that the hard way) so I tend to like front kicks because I can take advantage of that for some pretty crazy height. But do to my lack of practice, I can become unbalanced after doing so.

Mah relatives also studied weapons(my dad actually still has a pair of sai, and his nunchuks were stolen by redneck Ohioans), which I've always been intrigued by. Some martial-arts-related weapons can be insanely hard to handle from what I understand, like the urumi.

 

Posted Apr 12, '10 at 9:26pm

Strop

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Also, when I duck it and lunge into the opening, you're more likely to get nailed in the ribs rather than the nuts, which is what would have happened had you attempted the kick :P

On that note this is why flying kicks aren't a great idea. We weren't even sparring (we were playing a ball game) but some years back, I did a sneak-attack flying kick on this guy to get the ball off him and without looking, he did a perfect roundhouse kick into my crotch.

It was excruciating.

 

Posted Apr 12, '10 at 9:30pm

thisisnotanalt

thisisnotanalt

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. . . Ninja'd.

Double ninja, cuz I ninja'd a ninja.

Flying kicks also unbalance you, and any experienced student could easily block one, knocking you down and putting you in an excessively vulnerable position.

 

Posted Apr 12, '10 at 9:33pm

the_manta

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They're not practical, but it sure as hell is fun to tackle my friends with a flying kick from after school.

Also, I got scoop-kicked in the balls this one time. It didn't hurt all too much, coz I have balls of brass, but, yeah, it was just about the most uncomfortable experience in my life.

 

Posted Apr 12, '10 at 9:52pm

thisisnotanalt

thisisnotanalt

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balls of brass


I got balls of lonsdaleite.

Pwn'd.

. . . anyway, one time, when we were doing a volleyball unit in gym class, our gym teacher was spiking volleyballs at us to return. He spiked one right at me and it nailed me in the balls.

Most painful experience, though, was when I was three and I ripped the pad of my fingertip off. Ouch. I still can't vibrato when I play violin, cuz the pad of my fingertip from when I was a toddler was stitched back on and my finger grew around it . . . I essentially have a double-stacked fingertip pad on my left index finger now, and the added friction makes it very tough for me to vibrato on my violin. Arg.
 
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