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Anti-Government Taxation "Tea Partys"

Posted Jul 4, '09 at 10:27pm

HiddenDistance

HiddenDistance

1,152 posts

Gold - Knight

So just leave potholes in roads?  If a bridge collapses... oops?  No... that doesn't work... taxes are a necessity.  These tea parties are being done by people who don't understand that, and are being named by people who don't remember history.  The last I checked, you can still vote for your representatives

That's 'no' government.  They want 'small' government.

And yes... you can vote for your representative, but the manner in which it's representing the vote is done fairly poorly.  Let's take - Georgia's Senatorial election result.

49% voted for the republican canidate, and 46% voted for the democrat (3% went to libertarian).  So, the seat goes to a republican - in that state however, that means that there are 1.7 million people who voted democrat, whose concerns regarding state legislature are now completely unrepresented - near half of the vote.

I'm not saying an STV system is perfect, but it might be a step in the right direction.

 

Posted Jul 4, '09 at 10:40pm

clipmaster3

clipmaster3

109 posts

Gold - Squire

An ineffective government is often just as bad as no government.  An underfunded government is just inches from being ineffective.

And even though yes, those 1.7 million democrats' ideas are not being represented by the senator, they still benefit from the use of the tax money... It is not a parallel situation to the historical one!  Colonists' tax money was being used entirely across the ocean in Britain.  These protesters' money is being circulated into their community, or at the very least, their country.

 

Posted Jul 4, '09 at 11:14pm

TSL3_needed

TSL3_needed

3,539 posts

Iron - Prince

An ineffective government is often just as bad as no government.  An underfunded government is just inches from being ineffective.

Small is not ineffective. Small is often more effective. I agree with the underrepresention for the Georgia thingy, but it's still the majority of the voters voting republican. The people are misrepresented, but the voters aren't. Sort of like a double whammy. Unfair? Yes. Legal? Yes.

 

Posted Jul 5, '09 at 6:41am

insertwittynamehere

insertwittynamehere

72 posts

Wood - Knight

We may not like them, but we need to realize they are necessary. They gotta do what they gotta do, you know?

 

Posted Jul 5, '09 at 7:18am

HiddenDistance

HiddenDistance

1,152 posts

Gold - Knight

An ineffective government is often just as bad as no government.  An underfunded government is just inches from being ineffective.

One man's opinion.  Keep in mind that republicans have no interest in being 'underfunded' as you call it.  They just don't want to spend *as* much as the democrats do on social programs & the like.

And even though yes, those 1.7 million democrats' ideas are not being represented by the senator, they still benefit from the use of the tax money... It is not a parallel situation to the historical one!

That would entirely depend on how that senator decides to use the tax money.  And also - I don't recall saying it was a parallel situation to the historical tea parties, so don't point fingers at me - you should note that on the first page where I stated to the contrary in my original post...

 

Posted Jul 5, '09 at 10:55am

Zootsuit_riot

Zootsuit_riot

1,479 posts

Wood - Lord

I just think it's stupid that most of the people who are holding the tea parties won't even be affected by he tax raises Obama is putting into place.

 

Posted Jul 5, '09 at 1:51pm

IPwnU2Day

IPwnU2Day

374 posts

Gold - Squire

I just think it's stupid that most of the people who are holding the tea parties won't even be affected by he tax raises Obama is putting into place.

Every single family in the United States of America will be affected by Barack Houssein Obama's tax raises. In his campaign he promised not to raise taxes on ANYONE making less thatn $250,000 a year. HE LIED

He is having Cap and Trade go through congress. It hasn't passed yet, but the president is for it, the house has passed it and the senate has 60 liberals, so odds are it will pass.

What this bill will do is tax all energy consumption. If your family uses electricity, its taxed. If your family uses a heater or an air conditioned, its taxed. If your family has running water, its taxed. If you buy gas for your car, its taxed MORE.

And those are just the direct taxes, lets not forget about how you can be pass-through-taxed.

Now, the food industry needs to manufacture packing and needs to transport its products. They are not going to let their profits go down because of the new taxes. They are going to raise their prices which effects everyone.

There are tons of articles out there, just google "Cap-and-Trade"

 

Posted Jul 5, '09 at 2:27pm

Bliztkreig

Bliztkreig

24 posts

Wood - Squire

the Tea Parties are more Anti-Stupid spending than Anti-governments.

 

Posted Jul 5, '09 at 3:23pm

Green12324

Green12324

3,972 posts

Gold - Prince

the Tea Parties are more Anti-Stupid

Fighting stupidity with stupidity now days are they? I mean really, stapling tea bags to their hats??

 

Posted Jul 6, '09 at 6:40pm

Bliztkreig

Bliztkreig

24 posts

Wood - Squire

Boston Tea Party remember?

 
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