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God: Possibly Not a God?

Posted Aug 26, '09 at 3:09pm

valkyrie1119

valkyrie1119

1,199 posts

Wood - Prince

Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both willing, and able?
then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him god?

Posted Aug 26, '09 at 3:11pm

Lieutenut

Lieutenut

1,127 posts

Iron - Knight

I already saw this post a lot on this site now o.O

I do like it but I think it's time for a new saying or whatever it's called lol (brain fart)

 

Posted Aug 26, '09 at 3:13pm

valkyrie1119

valkyrie1119

1,199 posts

Wood - Prince

I do like it but I think it's time for a new saying or whatever it's called

Why? It's so true ya know? God isn't real.

 

Posted Aug 26, '09 at 3:16pm

Veobahamut

Veobahamut

778 posts

Iron - Knight

People have different beliefs in what god is.

 

Posted Aug 26, '09 at 3:17pm

Lieutenut

Lieutenut

1,127 posts

Iron - Knight

Why? It's so true ya know? God isn't real.

...oookaaaaayy I said I agree with the saying but I think it's time for a new one because this one has been used a crap load already...

God isn't real.

No, the god portrayed in the bible and other fairy tales isn't real.... but I think there is some kind of greater force than humans, whether it be a god (probably not) or something else.

 

Posted Aug 26, '09 at 3:20pm

ShylaGirl92

ShylaGirl92

648 posts

Gold - Lady

Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?

God is willing and he is able and he does prevent evil.

Why? It's so true ya know? God isn't real.

cause its getting old .... and what makes you think God is not real??

 

Posted Aug 26, '09 at 3:20pm

valkyrie1119

valkyrie1119

1,199 posts

Wood - Prince

I think there is some kind of greater force than humans

Possibly.

 

Posted Aug 26, '09 at 3:25pm

Lieutenut

Lieutenut

1,127 posts

Iron - Knight

God is willing and he is able and he does prevent evil.

Like I said before in this thread, I think there is some kind of greater force than humans, it may be a god or something else.

But to say he prevents evil is I think false... and the evil that did happened can't be justified by saying "it was part of the divine plan" because killing millions of innocents in the holocaust, atomic bombings, 9/11 doesn't sound like the god portrayed in the bible.

 

Posted Aug 26, '09 at 3:31pm

ShylaGirl92

ShylaGirl92

648 posts

Gold - Lady

But to say he prevents evil is I think false... and the evil that did happened can't be justified by saying "it was part of the divine plan" because killing millions of innocents in the holocaust, atomic bombings, 9/11 doesn't sound like the god portrayed in the bible.

You're almost right .... your right in saying that it can not be justified and that it is not part of the divine plan. and saying that this is not the God in the bible. This is man, God gave man free will. it hurts God every time someone dies. and does not want any of that.

 

Posted Aug 26, '09 at 3:34pm

Cenere

Cenere

7,134 posts

Iron - Prince

Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?

Since some have a theory that this is the seventh day (still) and God then still is relaxing, it might not be a priority.

Is he able, but not willing?

I myself have a theory that God is not "preventing" evil, as first of all, it should be human that does that (by choosing the right), but besides that, it would go against the laws of nature. If God shows will and power to, say, kill a murderer before that murderer kills someone else. First of all, it would mingling with out free will, second it most likely would be an unnatural death and people would find it strange.

How would people not react if the ice on the North Pole stopped melting all by itself, without nothing else changed?

It is quite possible that God has to do nothing in order for nature to take its course. It might be something learned from back in time, where mingling with humans often ended up bad.

But of course, as many might say: God is nothing but a fragment of our imagination and thus are neither benevolent nor omnipotent.
On the other hand, many can say that the faith in God makes the believer be able to do many thing, and in the power of people willing to good, God is both omnipotent and benevolent; in the believers we trust.
There might be a reason for things happening.

 

Posted Aug 26, '09 at 3:47pm

Lieutenut

Lieutenut

1,127 posts

Iron - Knight

it hurts God every time someone dies. and does not want any of that.

well then god's sort of a retard for giving free will?  of course humans are going to war and fight each other... if he didn't want any of it why give us free will.

I'll be back to debate later I gtg somewhere sorry.

 
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