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Posted Apr 2, '08 at 9:30pm

garifu

garifu

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Sting, I can appreciate that point of view, that the teachings of Christianity can be applied to daily life as an individual. If it was all about finding yourself and/or your faith, and leaving non-believers well enough alone, we'd probably be better off! Unfortunately, Unitarians aren't that common ;)

 

Posted Apr 2, '08 at 9:52pm

Armed_Blade

Armed_Blade

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I don't know. Religion has hurt the world because it was the blame before blacks. Since blacks were tied to Muslims, India and Pakistan were all like "PRRFT, Machine gun Fire! >.>". You've got a revolutionary war. Specially after no-good-money stealing Britian left. xP Lol, joke.
Besides quarrels that have been decided in the past, Christianity is a wall that isn't cracking. A broken wall. Which stands only thanks to devotion to god. Which is a fine thing, but with Christianitys past and what its turned into as a money grab as Megamickel calls it. Either you reform the church or move on as a Christian. By the way, the relationship with god is how close you are to him, how well you follow his morals. If you go against all that god dislikes, I doubt you have much of a "relationship".
Its rather annoying. :S Religious leaders are okay, to an extent. A religious leader shouldn't be a world leader. Now you have things like "Greek Orthodox" and "Pagan Christianity". I mean... COME ON! It seems like my sisters, they both love each other and think the same way, but neither of them backs down when they start to bicker. :P
Sisters are not religion. It seems pretteh sad. :(
Its just that Religion used to be life, it used to be strong to people. I hope it still is today. What people skipped were its morals, most teach to be tolerant. Respect other religions. After all there are punishments, but to let someone join a religion out of the fear of hell is just as much sin to them as it is to the one that said it.

 

Posted Apr 2, '08 at 9:54pm

Armed_Blade

Armed_Blade

1,563 posts

If Aethism doesn't get its fuel from any "Ism"... Then, out of wonder, what do you believe of the past, what do you beleive of what is to come after death and in the future?

 

Posted Apr 2, '08 at 10:23pm

Moegreche

Moegreche

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It's not Feuerbach :)

Here's another hint, he lived in the middle of the 17th century and his initials are B.S.  heh, that's kinda funny!

 

Posted Apr 2, '08 at 10:33pm

Armed_Blade

Armed_Blade

1,563 posts

I want to say Bull SH**. But I'm afraid that no one will believe someone with a name like that. xP

 

Posted Apr 2, '08 at 10:35pm

Moegreche

Moegreche

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Okay, here's his last name, but I'll jumble it:

anzpsio

 

Posted Apr 2, '08 at 11:28pm

garifu

garifu

172 posts

ok ok just to end this, its Baruch/benedict Spinoza

 

Posted Apr 2, '08 at 11:38pm

garifu

garifu

172 posts

ok... thanks for that info

 

Posted Apr 3, '08 at 9:08am

Moegreche

Moegreche

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It is Spinoza, brownie points to garifu.

To be as brief as I can be, Spinoza thought that God was the only substance, and that we are all properties of God.  What's funny is he was writing all of this in his book called The Ethics, so he was trying to develop some kind of moral principles.  What he argues is that since we are just God's properties there is no good or evil because God is good.  Those terms are just relative to what makes us experience pain or happiness.  So, you can't go up to someone who just murdered someone else and say "Hey, that wrong!" because that's just God shooting himself!
This idea of relative morality really caught on with atheists, as you might know.  But Spinoza was also called the "God Intoxicated Man" because God was everywhere for him.  Hey, I didn't call him those things, so don't blame me!

 

Posted Apr 3, '08 at 2:53pm

Hermann0212

Hermann0212

156 posts

Hmmmm this is becoming an interesting topic and i love all of the different veiws... I think that it does not matter what you beleive in what color your skin is or if you are stupid or smart we are all put down here to live together.