Armor Games

In a class I took a long time ago I was told by a psychologist that the best way to tell if a child has ADD or not is not to watch them doing something they don't like to do (face it, who wants to concentrate on that?) but rather to watch them doing something they enjoy doing.  If they can focus on that task then they don't have ADD.

For how long?  It has to be insanely challenging or complex to hold my complete concentration for any real length of time.  Plus a lot of times I play music in the background to help me concentrate.  Don't ask I don't know why it works.  It pisses my wife off with the strange things I do to concentrate or get some things done.

Maybe just give some kids some ridelein or some adavan.. That should get them to focus..

ridelein or some adavan.. That should get them to focus..

Deserteagle, do you know what those meds do? They essentially tranquilize the child. They make the kid feel both physically and mentally tired. It takes more effort to do everything and it doesn't help you pay attention, it just makes it so that if you get bored or something you aren't likely to go around throwing paper airplanes or moving. Those meds are not answers, they just make life around other people calmer.

That is exactly what effects i want to know about.  what other side effects are there?

Deserteagle, do you know what those meds do? They essentially tranquilize the child. They make the kid feel both physically and mentally tired. It takes more effort to do everything and it doesn't help you pay attention, it just makes it so that if you get bored or something you aren't likely to go around throwing paper airplanes or moving. Those meds are not answers, they just make life around other people calmer.

that's very false.

for those who have moderate to severe ADHD can't concentrate nearly as well without those pills.  however, while on those pills, the condition's nearly unnoticeable. 

yes, some children with ADHD get a "downer" feeling from it, but that's because either A) they were misdiagnosed or B) they were given too high of a dosage.

for those who have a worse case of the condition, they know how much those pills help.

The problem is defining disorder. Most of us experience a low degree of symptoms associated with ADHD, such as having difficulty focusing attention, becoming bored after a few minutes and being easily distracted source, the majority of people are not diagnosed with ADHD.

By definition, a disorder is "an ailment that affects the function of mind or body", which cycles with the definition of an ailment, which is "a physical or mental disorder" according to Webster's New Millennium Dictionary of English.

According to Encyclopedia Britannica, 2008, an ailment is a harmful deviation from the normal structural or functional state of an organism. A diseased organism commonly exhibits signs or symptoms indicative of its abnormal state. Thus, the normal condition of an organism must be understood in order to recognize the hallmarks of disease. Nevertheless, a sharp demarcation between disease and health is not always apparent.

Expanding on the previous sentence, humans have differing personalities. Where do you draw the line on what is abnormal? Obviously if say 30% of people are getting diagnosed with a disorder, the disnoses are wrong since 30% of the population is too large a number to be considered abnormal.

Personaly I believe that too many people are misdiagnosed with ADHD and although medicine has been proven to help control the temperament of people with ADHD or those with traits associated with ADHD, some children are simply being given too much leeway in their behavior without consequences by using the diagnosis as a defence. I'm sure many of you would agree that a child shouldn't be brought up to act without thinking of the consequences. Medicine may be used to help with managing someone's personality but one must be given opportunity to learn to control their own personalities without relying on just medicine like most of us do.

That, and what dierjen previously said, we eed to actually pay attention to our children, spend time with them, nurture them. Society has become so downward in actual family compassion it is just humilating. Honestly, society needs to lay off on their ridiclously high expectations on parents, but also not pressure younger generations into such abdominable things. Media has distorted what really matters. You just enjoy the fact were all alive, and we have someone to grasp and hug. I've been ripped apart by my job, both mentally and physcially.. Literally. I don't want the same to happen to anyone.

Society has become so downward in actual family compassion it is just humilating

In a way this is societys fault. Parents recently and previously have had children but both parents work. This causes the child to think that they can do whatever they want because when they are left unattended they ARE able to do those things. The problems come in when authority is RE-introduced and the child has grown accustomed to having personal freedom. Thus comes in the defiance and boredom and attorcious behaviors.

I'm sure many of you would agree that a child shouldn't be brought up to act without thinking of the consequences

In most cases, the parents aren't even there to teach the child that, much less fail at it if they are bad parents. How many people do you know that have 2 working parents and the kids get left at home? There's 3 just in my cul-de-sac, and that's all the families but mine.

I don't think I've ever seen an adult with severe ADHD; why do children have it then?  I'm not doubting that some children have shorter attention spans than others, I'm just saying that some of those children need a good ol' fashioned paddling. I'm also not trying to be mean, it's just that that's how things got done back in the day. Children didn't need medicine.