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Here is something to get the brain going. It's been said that God created ALL things. Also it's been said that God is 100 precent pure/good. So God created man and it was said that because of man's sinful actions bad/evil things were created. But if God created ALL things then God created bad/evil things, not man. So by God creating bad/evil things this does not make him 100 precent pure/good.
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Healmeal, you are giving "god" anthropomorphic qualities. Meaning, if God exists, it would have to exist outside of space and time. Any man-like notions cannot be prescribed to it.
So...there is no before or after "god"
Religion isn't the cause for war either. Any leader who fights in the name of God is putting up a front.
Though still religion plays a large roll and would be unlikely they would have been as bad or even have taken place without it's influence. I'm also not so sure if you can say this of all religious wars,if the leader really believes they are doing gods work religion could very well be cause or at least one of them.
Though still religion plays a large roll and would be unlikely they would have been as bad or even have taken place without it\\'s influence. I\\'m also not so sure if you can say this of all religious wars,if the leader really believes they are doing gods work religion could very well be cause or at least one of them.
Yes, religions have all been involved in wars. But doesn\\'t every thing have to fight to survive? If there weren\\'t any religious wars, many religions wouldn\\'t exist today. And, there is a reason atheism hasn\\'t started any wars. Until recently, there haven\\'t been that many atheists. And nowadays, any religious wars on a major scale are frowned upon and never really happen. Atheists haven\\'t had the time to start one. Most religious wars happened long ago. During those times, there were VERY few atheists, certainly not enough to start an army. But, had enough of them been around back then, and if they had had the means, atheists would have certainly enacted or been a part of religious wars.
Healmeal, you are giving "god" anthropomorphic qualities. Meaning, if God exists, it would have to exist outside of space and time. Any man-like notions cannot be prescribed to it.
So...there is no before or after "god"
Depends. If you name it you can already prescribe it. The only answer to everything is nothing, for everything came from nothing, will return to nothing and so practically is nothing. Why do we excist? If there's a god, why does he excist? And If there's no god, how about karma and balances?
Btw: Another 6 posts for possum! (Sorry man xD)
Just read his biography, sounds like a virus or something. Hope he gets it fixed soon
If there weren\\\\'t any religious wars, many religions wouldn\\\\'t exist today.
What a terrible lose to this world....
And, there is a reason atheism hasn\\\\'t started any wars. Until recently, there haven\\\\'t been that many atheists
it's unlikely you will ever see a war being fought for not believing in god.
And nowadays, any religious wars on a major scale are frowned upon and never really happen.
Accept for the...what is it two, three we are in now?
But, had enough of them been around back then, and if they had had the means, atheists would have certainly enacted or been a part of religious wars.
... >_>
it's unlikely you will ever see a war being fought for not believing in god.
Tolerance..
If a country stops being tolerant to atheism then they might start a war. Otherwise, difference in cultures could do the trick.
it's unlikely you will ever see a war being fought for not believing in god.
I believe differently. Since atheists believe that all religion is folly and the world would be better without it, if we were back in the times during which many religious wars were fought, wouldn't they have taken it upon themselves to open the eyes of the world by getting rid of all religion and those who practiced it? It's certainly very possible that the atheists would have had this point of view, and, because they had it, they would start many wars attempting to get rid of all the religions of the world.
PS: The problem is fixed.
If there weren\\\\\\\\'t any religious wars, many religions wouldn\\\\\\\\'t exist today.
No, no, no, no...no. God (or any diety for that matter) doesn't need wars to keep belief in him alive; that isn't logical.
Accept for the...what is it two, three we are in now?
Just because we are fighting religious groups doesn't mean its a war over religion. For America and the rest of the Western world its a war for oil.
Also there have been numerous times in history when Christians have been massacred be other religions or atheists. Think the Armenians, the USSR, and China. Just because no war against religion has been declared doesn't mean one isn't occuring.
I believe differently. Since atheists believe that all religion is folly and the world would be better without it, if we were back in the times during which many religious wars were fought, wouldn't they have taken it upon themselves to open the eyes of the world by getting rid of all religion and those who practiced it? It's certainly very possible that the atheists would have had this point of view, and, because they had it, they would start many wars attempting to get rid of all the religions of the world.
As much as I hate to say it I might have to give you that one.
If a war were to ever start to forcefully get to others to stop believing in there religion I'm sure there would be atheists who would fight for the religious to have the right to be religious.
Just because we are fighting religious groups doesn't mean its a war over religion. For America and the rest of the Western world its a war for oil.
Religion still has played a direct roll in them and it's likely we would not be fighting them if it wasn't for religion.
Religion still has played a direct roll in them and it's likely we would not be fighting them if it wasn't for religion.
There's just no evidence leading to such conclusion. Just because religion plays a roll in war does not mean that wars would become nearly non existent without religion. I can claim that guns play a direct roll in war, and that without guns, there would be almost no more war. There's plenty of evidence that guns aren't needed to start a war.
Yes, religion has been used to start wars, especially during the crusades. However, this argument is moot for a few reasons. 1. There are different kinds of religions. Not all of them were used to fight war. 2. Today, Christianity is not used as an excuse to fight wars.
There's just no evidence leading to such conclusion. Just because religion plays a roll in war does not mean that wars would become nearly non existent without religion.
Never said it would become nearly non existent. Though wars like the crusades even if they weren't about religion to the leaders they were to the people fighting. If not for religion it's unlikely the leaders would have been able to get the people to fight or at least as many to fight.
1. There are different kinds of religions. Not all of them were used to fight war.
Doesn't matter if it's religion X, Y, or Z it's still religion.
2. Today, Christianity is not used as an excuse to fight wars.
Again it doesn't matter if it's Christianity or not, Though I do recall Bush making a connection between going to war and his beliefs which is Christianity.
Yes, religion has been used to start wars, especially during the crusades. However, this argument is moot for a few reasons. 1. There are different kinds of religions. Not all of them were used to fight war. 2. Today, Christianity is not used as an excuse to fight wars.
thats not all it was based on, English were also looking to expand.
We Should look to God when we Fight wars, When Isreal was Fighting in Gods Name they won every battle. Now We fight for nothing, (and I mean this in religous terms, there are many reasons for fighting), Some people who go to war to protect Their religion, A lot of Americanss do that. Muslims Terrorist and Islamic radicals are willing to die for its religion.
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