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Brigadier
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As we all know, 18-21 is usually the age that people are defined as "Adults"

As they are now "Adults" they are allowed to Drink Alcohol or Gamble at a Casino, Legally allowed to have sex with other "Adults" and what not.

Now I would like to know what exactly defines an "Adult" and who decided that age 18-21 defines an "Adult".

In my eyes an "Adult" is a person who can handle themselves well in public, be smart enough not to overdose drugs or alcohol. Not Be Racist. And overall just have good manners and common sense.

I don't understand why Age describes adulthood. I don't want to toot my own horn but I find myself with more manners and common sense than quite a few adults I have met.

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Strop
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Hm, interesting, Itachi, where do you live? (Japan, perchance?) The statement on adulthood is rather philosophical, almost meriting its own thread as to what this state of mind could be, if anything at all.

SwitchFoot: haha yeah, I always give benefit of the doubt. I saw no point in going all AGNRY FAIC D:< because, well...what's the big deal that somebody speculates that I might be pedo on a forum? As long as the FBI or equivalent don't magically appear on my front door (very unlikely) as a result of it, anyway.

The whole "ooh, you dare talk about taboo, you must be related to said taboo"...it's a mindset. A mindset I hope people grow out of, but it's generally around loud and strong and there's not much one can do about it.

Also, just imagining you getting up in somebody's grill is a scary thought. If it were my grill, I'd probably be begging for mercy by now

flappybob999
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I agree with you, Brigadier. Age should not determine if you are or aren't to do anything, but America voted and what the people say, goes.

Strop
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There are exceptions to this rule, depending on where you live.

For example, in Australia, doctors do hold sway on matters of how to determine age/maturity status when it comes to certain decisions e.g. regarding adolescent female patients whether to inform parents of pregnancy test etc., or contraception. Normally medical matters are the responsibility of a parent/guardian of legal age but this doesn't always have to be the case, pending assessment by an authorised person.

garifu
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Yeah, same here in the U.S. But it generally comes into play with parents who want to refuse treatment for a sick teen, where the teen is interested in the procedure. Sometimes the state will step in a grant rights to the kid (basically emancipatory rights) so that he can take his/her care into his/her own hands. The key idea is that the STATE is the final word, not the physician.

cornel888
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LAME


16+ is old enough

cuz we breaking tha law nyway
so jsut make it less so we dont have to

bridal_souljah2463
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it cannot be defined upon age
it can only be measured on the maturity of the child or young adult


Souljah Out

crazynaitor
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Yea it depends how mature you are if I picked an age it could be any.


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Strop
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The key idea is that the STATE is the final word, not the physician.

Oh, ya, I should have been clear- by hold sway I didn't mean that a doctor can override the state...that would be downright unconstitutional!

garifu
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heh, heh. I was gonna say, that kinda power is something I would be concerned about Strop having :P

Erako
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Nomad

That is a very good question...

drainslug
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i'm UK and here there isnt one age for everything you can have hetrosexual sexual intercourse at 16 and homosexual intercourse at 18. You can smoke tobacco, drink alcohol and vote at 18. and drive at 17

thegrim23
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it shouldnt be determined by age it should be determined by record and maturity

Strop
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Okay, let's say this is true, because frankly I also like the idea.

The problem is when dealing with several million/billion people, how is one to do this is a manner that is "fair?" It has to be standardised somehow, right?

And here's where the problem lies in every solution- any system that is standardised is subject to exploitation.

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I think what really matters is the maturity level. If there is a 16 year old who handles them self, does well in school, and is well respected because of there good traits and then there is some 25 year old who goes out and drink himself to death, gets in a car crash, then walks home but stops to rape someone.

I would call the 16 year old and "adult" and the 25 year old, not a kid, but someone who is at the age level and should start acting like it but definitely not an "adult"

Because i think that adult is a term saying that you are mature even, not old enough. That is why way back when when a kid hit 13-14 they were considered adults because they were are that maturity level.

Megamickel
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Though to be honest, a lot of people on this thread seem like they overestimate their maturity by a LOT. Either directly or indirectly, they give away the fact that they believe themselves to be more mature than some people older than them. Egotism is a sign of immaturity, people... Well, that and ass hattery.

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