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Posted April 17, '10 7:53pm UTC

Welcome, Veterans and newcomers! This is the reconstruction of The Zombie Survival Club.

First off, I'll introduce you to some of our staff.
-SkaterKidWhoPwns- This is the guy who is my 2nd in command. If you cannot get to me, go to him and he'll answer questions/comments/concerns.
...We have no other staff? Well then.

READ THE RULES. IF YOU DO NOT IT'S LIKELY YOU'RE NOT GETTING IN.
1. Do not ask "Can I join?" or any other variation of that comment. (instructions on how to join will come soon)
2. Do not make a "Scenario" (will be explained later) unless you are a member.
3. Don't be stupid, use logic and think as if you were in the actual situation. OF course it's unlikely that it will happen, but we ask that all visitors and members be serious and literate.
4. Do not question mod or my/skater's authority (unless a mod directly opposes it)
5. No overly smart-*ss comments against other members, visitors, or your superiors.
6. Do not make a Virus until you are a member. The sheet for making a virus will be given to you upon asking me or skater.
7. DO NOT. ABSOLUTELY NOT, ASK "CAN I JOIN?". I cannot stress this enough.

Now that all the rules are over with, I'll go over some Jargons (slang terms relating to "work&quot that we use here.

Scenario - This is a term we use for a situation that is meant to test the user (as well as give you something to do). These are non-linear, and are generally Hypotheticals. Any MEMBER can make a scenario. Scenarios are generally matched with a previous story/situation and they give the supplies you have on hand. As well as the supplies near you. There's also generally a map that goes with it.

Virus, Parasite, Infection - These are the general types of a zombie virus. If there is not a previous virus that is mentioned before a virus or a plan, it is automatically changed to the current dominant virus (Goliath). Goliath will be explained later in the OP.

Zed - Is the common nickname for Zombie. I.E. "Yo dude I just shot up some Zeds!" Or: "Gah! That d**n ZED bit me!"

Well that's it for the terminology! Here's the dominant virus. It's gone through plenty of tweaking, and I think it's pretty much the most realistic virus in the club (aside from hungers). If no other virus is specified before a Scenario or a plan, this is the virus to be used.
Name - Goliath Syndrome
Type - Parasite
Speed - Leisurely walking speed (2-4 MPH)
Sounds - A mild groan, much like a man/woman in pain. No screaming comes from the virus.
Infection - Infection comes from the cells. If so much as a skin cell gets into you, you'll be quickly infected (aprox. 10-160 minutes, depending on strength and immune system of the user). It contracts a lot like AIDS, but it can be ANY cell, be it secretion or meat.
Hunting - It hunts by smell and hearing. It can't see that well, but strong light in the dark will attract it. Best time to attack one is in the daytime. They can't see in detail but they can see blurry instances of light, I.E., a fire or a flashlight.
Other - Cannot swim. Cannot fly, cannot run, cannot climb.
Believability Factor - Goliath was made in a lab (Codename: Anthemia, which is a prototype of the virus. Can also be used for begginers). It hyper-evolved and infected a rat. THe rat got out and began to infect humans (as well as certain birds, causing the infection to be worldwide). What the parasite does is: It enters the body as an infected cell. From there, it infects all the other cells, coating them in a secretion that fends off any form of decomposer (In short, it makes the immune system of the host really powerful). Then, it randomly selects a cell in the body (it is generally a cell in the torso). It grows to about the size of a human heart. IT then crawls it's way into the brain. IT preforms a lobotomy and hooks into the brain, feeding it with a steady flow of required nutrients and oxygen. It shuts down all other systems besides the lungs and flushes out the blood in the body (the parasite provides the necessities for living brain), and spreads long, muscular tentacles across the zombie's body, becoming a puppeteer. The parasite feeds by slowly eating the host. IT'll take a couple of decades in order for the parasite to starve/suffocate.
Best ways to kill it - A shot to the head, killing either the parasite or the brain. A punctured lung will also kill it, but it'd take a couple of minutes for it to actually die.

How to become a member
First off, you need to make a plan. You have everything you would at home. IT would happen the moment you are typing up the answer. So if it happens at night, then it happened at night, happened at day, it happened at day. For the sake of not-cheating, we'll use AG time.
Then, you have to answer a Scenario. The Scenarios come every couple of pages.
Wait for Both the Plan and the Scenario to be graded. Each member has their own form of grading. Once it's been passed around me and Skater will figure out whether or not to let you in.
If you are not initially let in, do not be disheartened! You have unlimited tries to enter, and all members (should) give you tips to get a better plan.

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
Why the hell am I doing this?
Reasons vary. Some people in the club do think the Zompocolypse would actually happen, and some people (like myself) do it for fun and practice for writing. Others do it because they just like killing and surviving zombies, while keeping it pretty realistic.

Can I make a Virus?
Sure, if you give me a comment on my page I'll be happy to give you the layout for the virus.

Can I Join?
Scroll up and read the OP. Do it.

Can I make a Scenario?
If you are a member, sure. Just make sure it's somewhat realistic. There are no real parameters for it, it just has to be a situation. Try and make it hard, too.

I think that's pretty much it! There are a couple of tiddly bits for you guys, though:
Titles/Ranks - A title or a "rank" will be given to you if you do something outstandingly awesome, stupid, weird, or just plain out there while still keeping it realistic. For a list of the ranks/titles, visit my page.
Members - A list of the members can be found on either my, or skater's page.
Discussion - Discussions will be held every now and again, as a stand-in for a Scenario. There will be a topic in BOLD (BOLD, MEMBERS) to let you know what the Discussion is about.
and that is pretty much it.
Now then, have fun everyone!

Welcome, Veterans and newcomers! This is the reconstruction of The Zombie Survival Club.\r\n\r\nFirst off, I'll introduce you to some of our staff.\r\n-SkaterKidWhoPwns- This is the guy who is my 2nd in command. If you cannot get to me, go to him and he'll answer questions/comments/concerns.\r\n...We have no other staff? Well then.\r\n\r\n[b]READ THE RULES. IF YOU DO NOT IT'S LIKELY YOU'RE NOT GETTING IN.[/b]\r\n1. [i]Do not ask "Can I join?" or any other variation of that comment.[/i] (instructions on how to join will come soon)\r\n2. [i]Do not make a "Scenario"[/i] (will be explained later) [i]unless you are a member[/i].\r\n3. [i]Don't be stupid, use logic and think as if you were in the actual situation. OF course it's unlikely that it will happen, but we ask that all visitors and members be serious and literate.[/i]\r\n4. [i]Do not question mod or my/skater's authority (unless a mod directly opposes it)[/i]\r\n5. [i]No overly smart-*ss comments against other members, visitors, or your superiors.[/i]\r\n6. [i]Do not make a Virus until you are a member. The sheet for making a virus will be given to you upon asking me or skater.[/i]\r\n7. [i]DO NOT. ABSOLUTELY NOT, ASK "CAN I JOIN?". I cannot stress this enough.[/i]\r\n\r\n[b]Now that all the rules are over with, I'll go over some Jargons (slang terms relating to "work") that we use here.[/b]\r\n\r\n[i]Scenario[/i] - This is a term we use for a situation that is meant to test the user (as well as give you something to do). These are non-linear, and are generally Hypotheticals. Any MEMBER can make a scenario. Scenarios are generally matched with a previous story/situation and they give the supplies you have on hand. As well as the supplies near you. There's also generally a map that goes with it. \r\n\r\n[i]Virus, Parasite, Infection[/i] - These are the general types of a zombie virus. If there is not a previous virus that is mentioned before a virus or a plan, it is automatically changed to the current dominant virus (Goliath). Goliath will be explained later in the OP.\r\n\r\n[i]Zed[/i] - Is the common nickname for Zombie. I.E. "Yo dude I just shot up some Zeds!" Or: "Gah! That d**n ZED bit me!"\r\n\r\n[b]Well that's it for the terminology! Here's the dominant virus. It's gone through plenty of tweaking, and I think it's pretty much the most realistic virus in the club (aside from hungers). If no other virus is specified before a Scenario or a plan, this is the virus to be used.[/b]\r\n[b]Name[/b] - Goliath Syndrome\r\n[b]Type[/b] - Parasite\r\n[b]Speed[/b] - Leisurely walking speed (2-4 MPH)\r\n[b]Sounds[/b] - A mild groan, much like a man/woman in pain. No screaming comes from the virus.\r\n[b]Infection[/b] - Infection comes from the cells. If so much as a skin cell gets into you, you'll be quickly infected (aprox. 10-160 minutes, depending on strength and immune system of the user). It contracts a lot like AIDS, but it can be ANY cell, be it secretion or meat.\r\n[b]Hunting[/b] - It hunts by smell and hearing. It can't see that well, but strong light in the dark will attract it. Best time to attack one is in the daytime. They can't see in detail but they can see blurry instances of light, I.E., a fire or a flashlight. \r\n[b]Other[/b] - Cannot swim. Cannot fly, cannot run, cannot climb.\r\n[b]Believability Factor[/b] -  Goliath was made in a lab (Codename: Anthemia, which is a prototype of the virus. Can also be used for begginers). It hyper-evolved and infected a rat. THe rat got out and began to infect humans (as well as certain birds, causing the infection to be worldwide). What the parasite does is: It enters the body as an infected cell. From there, it infects all the other cells, coating them in a secretion that fends off any form of decomposer (In short, it makes the immune system of the host really powerful). Then, it randomly selects a cell in the body (it is generally a cell in the torso). It grows to about the size of a human heart. IT then crawls it's way into the brain. IT preforms a lobotomy and hooks into the brain, feeding it with a steady flow of required nutrients and oxygen. It shuts down all other systems besides the lungs and flushes out the blood in the body (the parasite provides the necessities for living brain), and spreads long, muscular tentacles across the zombie's body, becoming a puppeteer. The parasite feeds by slowly eating the host. IT'll take a couple of decades in order for the parasite to starve/suffocate. \r\n[b]Best ways to kill it[/b] - A shot to the head, killing either the parasite or the brain. A punctured lung will also kill it, but it'd take a couple of minutes for it to actually die.\r\n\r\n[b]How to become a member[/b]\r\nFirst off, you need to make a plan. You have everything you would at home. IT would happen the moment you are typing up the answer. So if it happens at night, then it happened at night, happened at day, it happened at day. For the sake of not-cheating, we'll use AG time. \r\nThen, you have to answer a Scenario. The Scenarios come every couple of pages. \r\nWait for Both the Plan and the Scenario to be graded. Each member has their own form of grading. Once it's been passed around me and Skater will figure out whether or not to let you in. \r\nIf you are not initially let in, do not be disheartened! You have unlimited tries to enter, and all members (should) give you tips to get a better plan. \r\n\r\n[b][i]FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS[/b][/i]\r\n[b]Why the hell am I doing this?[/b]\r\nReasons vary. Some people in the club do think the Zompocolypse would actually happen, and some people (like myself) do it for fun and practice for writing. Others do it because they just like killing and surviving zombies, while keeping it pretty realistic.\r\n\r\n[b]Can I make a Virus?[/b]\r\nSure, if you give me a comment on my page I'll be happy to give you the layout for the virus.\r\n\r\n[b]Can I Join?[/b]\r\nScroll up and read the OP. Do it. \r\n\r\n[b]Can I make a Scenario?[/b]\r\nIf you are a member, sure. Just make sure it's somewhat realistic. There are no real parameters for it, it just has to be a situation. Try and make it hard, too.\r\n\r\nI think that's pretty much it! There are a couple of tiddly bits for you guys, though:\r\n[b]Titles/Ranks[/b] - A title or a "rank" will be given to you if you do something outstandingly awesome, stupid, weird, or just plain out there while still keeping it realistic. For a list of the ranks/titles, visit my page.\r\n[b]Members[/b] - A list of the members can be found on either my, or skater's page.\r\n[b]Discussion[/b] - Discussions will be held every now and again, as a stand-in for a Scenario. There will be a topic in [b]BOLD (BOLD, MEMBERS)[/b] to let you know what the Discussion is about.\r\nand that is pretty much it. \r\nNow then, have fun everyone!

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skater_kid_who_pwns

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Blacksmith

Posted December 23, '10 7:04pm UTC

the "bite me" shirt made me laugh uncontrollably hard.

Strongbow is a good writer!

You should go post it in The writting section. Its a good story, deserves some recognition.

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Strongbow

324 posts

Nomad

Posted December 27, '10 1:52am UTC

Chapter 2 of the new story is finished, for anyone interested.

You can find the link on my profile.

Oh! This place is getting a bit dusty. Ill get a new scenario posted soon. I hope to see some responses.

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Microe

842 posts

Nomad

Posted December 27, '10 4:07am UTC

On me:
Head: Camo Boonie, ski mask, goggles.
Torso and Arms: Long sleeved shirt, Protective vest
Hands: Leather gloves
Legs: Military style pants, cowboy chaps.
Feet: Combat boots, water resistant socks.
Extra: Passaport(if it would help at all...)

Weapon (17 lbs): Ak-47, Remington 870 shotgun(30 cartridges)

Side Arm (4 lbs lbs): Smith& Wesson 686 36 rounds, Ka bar knife.

Food (15 lbs):30 Power bars, 1 quart of water, Water Purifier, 5 pounds of beef jerky.

First Aid (3 lbs): Bandages, Crown Royale, Band-Aids, alcohol and hydrogen peroxide, Gauze, Gloves, flare gun, tape, a medkit basically.

Equipment (20 lbs): Shovel, Bug Spray,Watch, Maps, Compass, Matches, axe,Fire Striker and Flint,Lighter, Horn, Survival Mirror, GPS,a pot,

Special (3 lbs): Dirty magazines, binoculars.

Weapon Weight: 17 lbs
Pack Weight: 41 lbs
Total Weight: 38 lbs

Tough back pack for carrying items.

I live in Texas, this place is full of life everywhere, My best bet would be to head out of the city. If the outbreak happened as im typing I would gear up and get ready. I would gather my parents and my little brother. I will Get in the car and try to take the car and hit the road. The streets will most likely be cluttered with cars. If
I see a bigger car/truck, which isnt hard to find here, i would get on, checking the backseat of course(zombieland).

Plan A- Go south to galveston, Grab a boat, Go south to my homeland, Cuba. If i were to die i would die there. There is a military resistance and a bond between the community there.

Plan B- Military base in corpus christi, if i fail to get on a boat or if something blocks me.

Plan C- Try to survive....

This is the setup for now, Can you guys tell me whats up with it thanks.

On me:\r\n     Head: Camo Boonie, ski mask, goggles. \r\n     Torso and Arms: Long sleeved shirt, Protective vest\r\n     Hands: Leather gloves\r\n     Legs: Military style pants, cowboy chaps.\r\n     Feet: Combat boots, water resistant socks.\r\n     Extra: Passaport(if it would help at all...) \r\n\r\nWeapon (17 lbs): Ak-47, Remington 870 shotgun(30 cartridges)\r\n\r\nSide Arm (4 lbs lbs): Smith& Wesson 686 36 rounds, Ka bar knife.\r\n\r\nFood (15 lbs):30 Power bars, 1 quart of water, Water Purifier, 5 pounds of beef jerky.\r\n\r\nFirst Aid (3 lbs): Bandages, Crown Royale, Band-Aids, alcohol and hydrogen peroxide, Gauze, Gloves, flare gun, tape, a medkit basically.\r\n\r\nEquipment (20 lbs): Shovel, Bug Spray,Watch, Maps, Compass, Matches, axe,Fire Striker and Flint,Lighter, Horn, Survival Mirror, GPS,a pot, \r\n\r\nSpecial (3 lbs): Dirty magazines, binoculars.\r\n\r\nWeapon Weight: 17 lbs\r\nPack Weight: 41 lbs\r\nTotal Weight: 38 lbs\r\n\r\nTough back pack for carrying items.\r\n\r\nI live in Texas, this place is full of life everywhere, My best bet would be to head out of the city. If the outbreak happened as im typing I would gear up and get ready. I would gather my parents and my little brother. I will Get in the car and try to take the car and hit the road. The streets will most likely be cluttered with cars. If    \r\nI see a bigger car/truck, which isnt hard to find here, i would get on, checking the backseat of course(zombieland).\r\n\r\nPlan A- Go south to galveston, Grab a boat, Go south to my homeland, Cuba. If i were to die i would die there. There is a military resistance and a bond between the community there.\r\n\r\nPlan B- Military base in corpus christi, if i fail to get on a boat or if something blocks me.\r\n\r\nPlan C- Try to survive....\r\n\r\nThis is the setup for now, Can you guys tell me whats up with it thanks.

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jdoggparty

5,860 posts

Nomad

Posted December 27, '10 6:38pm UTC

Wow strongbow, that was good. I think you might have spelled suburbs wrong though. :P

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Muse2223

372 posts

Nomad

Posted December 27, '10 7:08pm UTC

You guys are all seriously lacking in owning AR-15's.

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Microe

842 posts

Nomad

Posted December 28, '10 11:26pm UTC

I like ak's better haha

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skater_kid_who_pwns

4,376 posts

Blacksmith

Posted December 29, '10 3:15pm UTC

Microe, you own an AK? If so, I have shot them, there powefull, but inaccurate at range, and loud as hell. If you shoot that, sure, anything in front of you isn't going to have a face, but you might not, since the zombes it's going to attract are going it rip it off. Teh shotgun is good at close range, but it is better to use a melee weapon at that point. Shotguns are load, have a good bit of kick (depending o nthe shotgun) are poor at long range, and have a spread, making hard to get a head shot. By all means take your shotgun with you, but my carefull.

So I wouldn't count on going anywhere for a good week or two. Hold up in your house as long as you can and be as quite as possible. Once you HAVE to leave, you will want to go somewhere, but where? If your driving, stick to back roads, mager roads/highways will be blocked with cars, and alot of dead things. So avoid those.

Do you know enough about boats that you could get from texas to cuba? Are you experienced? That would not be an easy trip by any means. You would need either sailing experience, and a good understanding of the ocean or a sailer to take you there. If you have a motorized craft, your gonna need alot of gas.

This sounds like an alright plan, since you will be safe untill you reach land. And supposing the out break didn't spread there, or they have it under controll, it's worth the risk.

Millitary bases, stay away. They will most likely shoot on sight.

Muse you own an AR? I like them, but the size makes them a bit impracticall.

Microe, you own an AK? If so, I have shot them, there powefull, but inaccurate at range, and loud as hell. If you shoot that, sure, anything in front of you isn't going to have a face, but you might not, since the zombes it's going to attract are going it rip it off. Teh shotgun is good at close range, but it is better to use a melee weapon at that point. Shotguns are load, have a good bit of kick (depending o nthe shotgun) are poor at long range, and have a spread, making hard to get a head shot. By all means take your shotgun with you, but my carefull. \r\n\r\n\r\nSo I wouldn't count on going anywhere for a good week or two. Hold up in your house as long as you can and be as quite as possible. Once you HAVE to leave, you will want to go somewhere, but where? If your driving, stick to back roads, mager roads/highways will be blocked with cars, and alot of dead things. So avoid those. \r\n\r\nDo you know enough about boats that you could get from texas to cuba? Are you experienced? That would not be an easy trip by any means. You would need either sailing experience, and a good understanding of the ocean or a sailer to take you there. If you have a motorized craft, your gonna need alot of gas.\r\n\r\nThis sounds like an alright plan, since you will be safe untill you reach land. And supposing the out break didn't spread there, or they have it under controll, it's worth the risk. \r\n\r\nMillitary bases, stay away. They will most likely shoot on sight.    \r\n\r\nMuse you own an AR? I like them, but the size makes them a bit impracticall.

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iko

161 posts

Nomad

Posted December 30, '10 4:35am UTC

I made a plan before, but it was just a scenario. In actuality this is what I'd probably do.

Outbreak source: China or India
First place to reach U.S: California (I live in Illinois)

Supplies
Nonperishable foods

Transportation:
Bike

Company:
My family all with their own food and bike.

Plan:
Ride over to the house of my mom's good friend. Her friend is the wife of a navy admiral who would happy to let us stay on a navy base for the outbreak.

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Hypermnestra

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Posted December 30, '10 4:49am UTC

Outbreak source: China or India
First place to reach U.S: California (I live in Illinois)

So, getting to California from Illinois on bike? That will be difficult and time-consuming. Are you talking like a no-stops trip for anything other than sleep and bathroom breaks? Where would you get the food or water to do this? You might have some to start but you would eat it fast enough.

Outbreak source: China or India

How would you know this?

Supplies
Nonperishable foods

Such as?
And where would you get these foods from? You could get some from your house, I guess, but that food supply would not last long feeding an entire family of people when you're being picky about what you take(only "nonperishables&quot.

Transportation:
Bike

I guess it makes sense at first glance if you're going it solo, but if you are taking your entire family with you wouldn't it be rather impractical for you all to be on bikes? I mean, chances are that your parents would be much faster than you on a bike, and really you would need a vastly improved mode of transportation to travel such a distance regardless.

Company:
My family all with their own food and bike.

How many people are in your family? Mom, dad, grandpa, grandma, siblings? I mean, this is a bit vague.
In addition, each having their own bike is possible, I guess. I mean, how many grown adults do you know that still own bicycles? I suppose it's possible, though, so I will let it slide for the time being.
It's the "all their own food" thing I have a problem with. I'm assuming that because you are a family, you would live in the same house and thus share the same food, correct? Even if you carefully rationed your supplies, you would run out within a fortnight.

Plan:
Ride over to the house of my mom's good friend. Her friend is the wife of a navy admiral who would happy to let us stay on a navy base for the outbreak.

No offense, but how can you know that this admiral guy will agree? A wife who's a friend of the mom of a friend? That seems like an awful stretch for such a big favor to ask, y'know? And besides, tons of other people are going to be asking the military for the exact same thing, and chances are they won't let anyone at all in, because then everyone else will want in.

Here are some questions for you to address.
Mode of transportation. Bikes are just impractical to travel from Illinois to California, how will you get another mode of transportation?
Means of protection. What would happen if you encountered zombies or even humans? As far as I can tell, you don't have any weapons and you probably have multiple invalids in your party. How will you deal with even the slightest threat?
Rations. Foods you gather from your house might last you a few weeks if they are carefully rationed out between your family members, but you will run out eventually for certain. How do you plan to replenish your food and water supply?
Ultimate Goal. The admiral's help is iffy at best, so I would suggest you toss that goal out the window and find a new one; barricading your house? Still headed to California(why?).

[quote]Outbreak source: China or India\r\nFirst place to reach U.S: California (I live in Illinois)[/quote]\r\nSo, getting to California from Illinois on bike? That will be difficult and time-consuming. Are you talking like a no-stops trip for anything other than sleep and bathroom breaks? Where would you get the food or water to do this? You might have some to start but you would eat it fast enough. \r\n\r\n[quote]Outbreak source: China or India[/quote]\r\nHow would you know this?\r\n\r\n[quote]Supplies\r\nNonperishable foods[/quote]\r\nSuch as?\r\nAnd where would you get these foods from? You could get some from your house, I guess, but that food supply would not last long feeding an entire family of people when you're being picky about what you take(only "nonperishables"). \r\n\r\n[quote]\r\nTransportation:\r\nBike[/quote]\r\nI guess it makes sense at first glance if you're going it solo, but if you are taking your entire family with you wouldn't it be rather impractical for you all to be on bikes? I mean, chances are that your parents would be much faster than you on a bike, and really you would need a vastly improved mode of transportation to travel such a distance regardless. \r\n\r\n[quote]\r\nCompany:\r\nMy family all with their own food and bike.[/quote]\r\nHow many people are in your family? Mom, dad, grandpa, grandma, siblings? I mean, this is a bit vague.\r\nIn addition, each having their own bike is possible, I guess. I mean, how many grown adults do you know that still own bicycles? I suppose it's possible, though, so I will let it slide for the time being. \r\nIt's the "all their own food" thing I have a problem with. I'm assuming that because you are a family, you would live in the same house and thus share the same food, correct? Even if you carefully rationed your supplies, you would run out within a fortnight. \r\n\r\n[quote]\r\nPlan:\r\nRide over to the house of my mom's good friend. Her friend is the wife of a navy admiral who would happy to let us stay on a navy base for the outbreak.[/quote]\r\nNo offense, but how can you know that this admiral guy will agree? A wife who's a friend of the mom of a friend? That seems like an awful stretch for such a big favor to ask, y'know? And besides, tons of other people are going to be asking the military for the exact same thing, and chances are they won't let anyone at all in, because then everyone else will want in. \r\n\r\nHere are some questions for you to address.\r\n[b]Mode of transportation. [/b]Bikes are just impractical to travel from Illinois to California, how will you get another mode of transportation?\r\n[b]Means of protection.[/b] What would happen if you encountered zombies or even humans? As far as I can tell, you don't have any weapons and you probably have multiple invalids in your party. How will you deal with even the slightest threat? \r\n[b]Rations. [/b]Foods you gather from your house might last you a few weeks if they are carefully rationed out between your family members, but you will run out eventually for certain. How do you plan to replenish your food and water supply?\r\n[b]Ultimate Goal. [/b]The admiral's help is iffy at best, so I would suggest you toss that goal out the window and find a new one; barricading your house? Still headed to California(why?).

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iko

161 posts

Nomad

Posted December 30, '10 4:56am UTC

Let me clarify:

I meant that the outbreak would hit U.S first in California, which gives me time to react. That way I don't have to run screaming away.
Also, it would start in China or India because they have so many people, and bad environmental laws. I probably should have been more specific with food. My family is me, my 2 brothers, my dad, and my mom all of whom are in good-decent physical shape. I know we all have bicycles because I can see them. I also know the admiral guy will agree because I've met him quite a few times, and we have talked a bunch. I'm assuming he would listen to his wife if she insisted him to let us stay, which based off of her relationship with my mom is probable. So the admiral's help is not iffy at best.

Sorry for any confusion I caused.

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Hypermnestra

26,390 posts

Nomad

Posted December 30, '10 5:06am UTC

Also, it would start in China or India because they have so many people, and bad environmental laws.

Well, I guess that's all right, but you should not assume such things in the game.

I probably should have been more specific with food

Mind being more specific now that you know you should have done so?

My family is me, my 2 brothers, my dad, and my mom all of whom are in good-decent physical shape.

How old are your brothers?
Also; your parents would still be faster than you and your brothers, most likely.

I know we all have bicycles because I can see them.

Hey, I let the bike thing go.

I also know the admiral guy will agree because I've met him quite a few times, and we have talked a bunch. I'm assuming he would listen to his wife if she insisted him to let us stay, which based off of her relationship with my mom is probable. So the admiral's help is not iffy at best.

Yes, I believe it still is.
This admiral dude still has people to answer to, and basically people in the military can't just let in anyone they want when they can't take everyone. You and your family would be useless in that naval base. They would be hard-pressed just to fit all the soldiers, the scientists, the doctors, etc. in the base than to let in civilians just because of a personal relationship. The people who are allowed in the base probably aren't decided by the admiral's personal connections but by who would be most useful.
Now this begs the question; how can you be useful? If you have a friendship with this admiral guy, then if you could find some way that you would be helpful in a naval military environment, perhaps you could convince the admiral to admit you.

[quote]Also, it would start in China or India because they have so many people, and bad environmental laws.[/quote]\r\nWell, I guess that's all right, but you should not assume such things in the game. \r\n\r\n[quote]I probably should have been more specific with food[/quote]\r\nMind being more specific now that you know you should have done so?\r\n\r\n[quote]My family is me, my 2 brothers, my dad, and my mom all of whom are in good-decent physical shape.[/quote]\r\nHow old are your brothers? \r\nAlso; your parents would still be faster than you and your brothers, most likely. \r\n\r\n[quote]I know we all have bicycles because I can see them.[/quote]\r\nHey, I let the bike thing go. \r\n\r\n[quote]I also know the admiral guy will agree because I've met him quite a few times, and we have talked a bunch. I'm assuming he would listen to his wife if she insisted him to let us stay, which based off of her relationship with my mom is probable. So the admiral's help is not iffy at best.[/quote]\r\nYes, I believe it still is.\r\nThis admiral dude still has people to answer to, and basically people in the military can't just let in anyone they want when they can't take everyone. You and your family would be useless in that naval base. They would be hard-pressed just to fit all the soldiers, the scientists, the doctors, etc. in the base than to let in civilians just because of a personal relationship. The people who are allowed in the base probably aren't decided by the admiral's personal connections but by who would be most useful.\r\nNow this begs the question; how can you be useful? If you have a friendship with this admiral guy, then if you could find some way that you would be helpful in a naval military environment, perhaps you [i]could [/i]convince the admiral to admit you.

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Posted December 30, '10 5:42am UTC

Okay, I'll do my best to give a thorough response this time.

I'm assuming China or India, based off of "World War Z" by Max Brooks, author of "The Zombie Survival Guide". Since his books are considered to be standards in the world of zombielore, I am going to assume China/India. For food, my family has large amounts of canned goods, apples, and nutrigrain bars. You can go a surprisingly long time on apples and water. My brothers are 18 and 20, while I am 16. My parents are kinda old, so I'm pretty sure I can keep pace with them and my bros. I can be useful to the navy because, despite teenage stereotypes, I really don't have authority issues and can take orders pretty well. I have fired a few guns before, and I am smart in school and in the use of various technologies. If anything I'm sure the navy would accept another grunt who can take orders and shoot.

I think I responded enough. Thanks for the feedback though. Btw I do have a backup plan, but it involves abandoning my family to join another group, but I'd rather stay with my family

Okay, I'll do my best to give a thorough response this time. \r\n\r\nI'm assuming China or India, based off of "World War Z" by Max Brooks, author of "The Zombie Survival Guide". Since his books are considered to be standards in the world of zombielore, I am going to assume China/India.  For food, my family has large amounts of canned goods, apples, and nutrigrain bars. You can go a surprisingly long time on apples and water. My brothers are 18 and 20, while I am 16. My parents are kinda old, so I'm pretty sure I can keep pace with them and my bros. I can be useful to the navy because, despite teenage stereotypes, I really don't have authority issues and can take orders pretty well. I have fired a few guns before, and I am smart in school and in the use of various technologies. If anything I'm sure the navy would accept another grunt who can take orders and shoot.\r\n\r\nI think I responded enough. Thanks for the feedback though. Btw I do have a backup plan, but it involves abandoning my family to join another group, but I'd rather stay with my family

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Posted December 30, '10 3:42pm UTC

I'm assuming China or India, based off of "World War Z" by Max Brooks, author of "The Zombie Survival Guide". Since his books are considered to be standards in the world of zombielore, I am going to assume China/India.

Fair enough.

For food, my family has large amounts of canned goods, apples, and nutrigrain bars. You can go a surprisingly long time on apples and water.

Well, feeding five people on apples and nutrition bars won't be the most filling of meals, but I suppose it could do.
The apples would rot, though. Just a warning.
And regardless of how long it does last, you still need a contingency plan for when you do run out of food and water.

My brothers are 18 and 20, while I am 16. My parents are kinda old, so I'm pretty sure I can keep pace with them and my bros.

And can they keep pace with you?

I can be useful to the navy because, despite teenage stereotypes, I really don't have authority issues and can take orders pretty well. I have fired a few guns before, and I am smart in school and in the use of various technologies. If anything I'm sure the navy would accept another grunt who can take orders and shoot.

That doesn't make you anything special though, and I'm sure they have plenty of far-more-trained soldiers to do that kind of thing, so I'm not sure they would let you in on those grounds.

I don't mean to pick on your plan or anything, just...we're supposed to help each other plan stuff out better.

[quote]I'm assuming China or India, based off of "World War Z" by Max Brooks, author of "The Zombie Survival Guide". Since his books are considered to be standards in the world of zombielore, I am going to assume China/India.[/quote]\r\nFair enough.\r\n[quote]For food, my family has large amounts of canned goods, apples, and nutrigrain bars. You can go a surprisingly long time on apples and water.[/quote]\r\nWell, feeding five people on apples and nutrition bars won't be the most filling of meals, but I suppose it could do.\r\nThe apples would rot, though. Just a warning.\r\nAnd regardless of how long it does last, you still need a contingency plan for when you do run out of food and water.\r\n[quote]\r\n My brothers are 18 and 20, while I am 16. My parents are kinda old, so I'm pretty sure I can keep pace with them and my bros.[/quote]\r\nAnd can they keep pace with you?\r\n\r\n[quote] I can be useful to the navy because, despite teenage stereotypes, I really don't have authority issues and can take orders pretty well. I have fired a few guns before, and I am smart in school and in the use of various technologies. If anything I'm sure the navy would accept another grunt who can take orders and shoot.[/quote]\r\nThat doesn't make you anything special though, and I'm sure they have plenty of far-more-trained soldiers to do that kind of thing, so I'm not sure they would let you in on those grounds. \r\n\r\nI don't mean to pick on your plan or anything, just...we're supposed to help each other plan stuff out better.

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Posted December 30, '10 3:59pm UTC

No one helped me with my plan...

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Posted December 30, '10 4:23pm UTC

Step 1: Assuming the power has gone out, I will immediately search my house for anything that could be useful. I can find a hunting rifle in the garage(though I cannot effectively wield it), a first aid kit in the bathroom(it's stocked with quite a lot; my dad likes to be prepared), enough canned food to last me at least a few days(hey, I like Chef Boyardee. Don't judge me), a full canteen(we go hiking sometimes), a Leatherman knife(versatile and useful, but the blades are small), and of course my trusty mountain bike(it's in good condition, and fast). I should be able to stuff all this equipment into my backpack(for school) without too much difficulty, with the exception of the rifle, which I will sling over my shoulder using the strap. I do this immediately because otherwise, once the panic sets in people will ransack the place themselves trying to get my stuff, and the bite-sized person that I am, I probably will not be able to fend them off.
Step 2: With the assumption that my parents are not home, I shall have to abandon my pets. It's unfortunate, but we're talking about my life, here. They will have to fend for their own.
Step 3: I will leave the house immediately and set out for the Energy Solutions head office. I am going to Energy Solutions for two reasons; one, it is not likely to be the first place that pops into peoples' heads, so therefore it won't be ransacked immediately(this means that on my bike I will probably be able to reach it before any looting occurs), and two, it's the most likely place for me to get some kind of Haz-Mat suit, gas mask, or something of the kind. They deal with toxic and radioactive waste disposal; how can they not have Haz-Mat gear? If I encounter any zombies on the way, I will just flee. Apparently they walk pretty slow, and I'm almost positive that going top speed on my bike, I'll be able to escape without being exposed. I cannot run the risk of shooting them because then their &quotarticles"-dead skin, blood, etc. etc- would probably reach me. I can't take that chance. When I go inside, I'll lock up my bike outside. I can't risk losing it at this stage.
Step 4: Having now acquired some sort of protection against being infected in the form of a hazardous material suit, I will now make my way to the nearest sporting goods, power tools, or similar store. Best case scenario, I might find some kind of martial arts studio or dojo(I'm sure there are plenty in Salt Lake). When I have found one of these places, I'll grab a melee weapon from it(crowbar, baseball bat, isshinryu staff, whatever). The reasoning behind this is that my gun is effectively useless in my hands. I have little to no idea how to operate it, plus it's heavy. On the other hand, I am at least moderately skilled with melee weapons, having trained in martial arts, and therefore I will be able to use them effectively. My plan is to run if I see a zombie. If they get close enough so that I can't run, I shall just have to whack them on the head with my melee weapon, hopefully giving me enough of a reprieve to get on my bike and gtfo. If even that fails, then I will have to shoot them; even I can shoot from close range, and that is the only situation where I would need to use the gun.
Step 5: Now that I am not only defended against infection but armed, I just need to find a way to sustain my existence. I'll go to the nearest supermarket and get whatever hasn't been looted already. Food is best; something that lasts long, like beef jerky, would be my first choice. I'd also grab a poncho, first aid kit, vitamins/minerals(in pill form, presumably), powdered milk, binoculars, a few dry bags(I can find these at sport supply stores, they're usually for rafting), matches/lighter, an ice chest, and some heavier food like Ramen Noodles. If one store is empty, then I'll go to the next, and as for panicked humans? Keep on the down-low as much as possible, and stay away from big crowds at all costs. It will be time consuming but worth it.
Note: Throughout the course of this, I will stay on the sidewalks with my bike, and be as cautious as I can. I don't think people will be too concerned with whether the light is red or green in the apocalypse.

Weapons: 30-06 Rifle[1 full magazine], Aluminum Baseball Bat.
Armor: Haz-Mat Suit.
Edibles: Beef Jerky[10 bags], Chef Boyardee[5 cans], Ramen Noodles[5 packages].
Drinks: 1 Canteen of Water[full], Powdered Milk.
Miscellaneous Supplies: Backpack, poncho, first aid kit, vitamins/minerals, binoculars, 5 dry bags, matches[12], Leatherman knife, ice chests[3].
Transportation: Bicycle.

I think the best place to go would be somewhere that's completely useless. Someplace that nobody would ever go because it is completely empty, completely useless, or something like that. That way, it will be relatively safe from the humans. I'm thinking maybe the local library would be a likely location. The bookshelves themselves, if shifted, could easily be made into makeshift barricades. Not only that, but the books are effectively useless for survival, so nobody will go there. And last but not least, I will always have some source of entertainment so my life isn't entirely miserable and I don't go insane. With a little remodeling, I think that the Salt Lake Public Library would be a perfect spot.

I'll barricade the library using the bookshelves, and try to stockpile some food and water. Go on cautious daily forays into the city, and bring back anything useful to the library: food, water, weapons, etc. Anything.
That said, I will need to find a way to heat the place now that winter is coming. I think sticking around is a feasible option as long as I'm properly defended against looters, and it's certainly better than in the middle of nowhere, out in the Wasatch Mountains(remember, this is Salt Lake City) during winter. I'd never survive that.
Now, I think what I will have to do is immediately start building up defenses(alternating between going out and getting supplies, and building defenses). I think that the nonfiction books will prove useful, as they can tell me what kind of materials will be most useful, how to build, etc. etc. Now that the initial panic has died down, with a little time, I should be able to find the necessary supplies to barricade the library against possible raiders. That is my first priority.
Once the library has been set up to defend against possible looters, I shall have to find a way to heat the place up. I suppose that if I could find a corner where there is nothing flammable; for example, upstairs there is only a warehouse, and it's pretty empty and made out of stone, I can set up a good fire there. I can attach that to the heating system that was already installed and presto! You have heat throughout the place.
With no power, lighting, plumbing, food, and water, are all major problems. I think that I shall have to set up lights all over the place, powered by batteries or something like that. I can probably find how to build an engine or some other kind of generator in a book. If I can hook up a manual electricity generator in the place, I will set up some lights.
Afterwards, is the problem of water. I only started out with a canteen and even with frequent trips to the stores, eventually I will run out. If I can find some way to desalinate the water from the Great Salt Lake, that would be perfect, and I probably can find how to do that.
Food? Well, I will keep raiding stores. Hopefully that will be enough to hold me over until I learn how to use the rifle from the books and practice.

Now I will need a secondary means of escape; a fire escape seems the most likely choice as these particular zombies cannot climb, but there is always the possibility they will wait for me at the bottom, so I will, using chemistry books from the library and materials I gather from stores, place a few explosives around the bottom of the fire escape. They will be remotely detonated(so that I don't accidentally trigger them myself) and I will set up a trip wire connected to something loud like a bunch of pots and pans to alert me if someone is down there so I can activate the explosives.

As for defense?Bookshelves would work for the inside; some kind of steel shutters would be good for the windows(you know, the kind they have in pharmacies) and I'll have to fortify the door somehow(locks are good, chains are good, bars are also feasible). To get the steel shutters, just finding steel would be a start, then I could shutter it in an overlapping scale-like pattern. That would probably be a good defense. It's also possible I could just take them from pharmacies.
And of course, I'll darken out all the windows(with paint, covering them up, whatever) so that the lights aren't obvious.

Now, on to the most immediate problem: WATER.
Now obviously there would be clean water supplies present at the Great Salt Lake but there would also be other looters there as well who thought of it before I did. Now I will try to get ahold of a black camo outfit so that I will be better hidden at night time, and besides, a Haz-Mat suit will probably make them think I'm a government employee, which could have multiple effects-some good, some bad-but I'm not willing to risk that.
Now that I have the camo outfit, I will leave most of my stuff at the B&N: the food, water, gun, etc.

Weapons: Aluminum Baseball Bat.
Armor: Camouflage Clothes.
Edibles: None.
Drinks: None.
Miscellaneous Supplies: Backpack, poncho, first aid kit,binoculars, matches[12], canteens[20].

The rest is staying at the library. The reason I am leaving the gun behind is because it's useless to me anyway until I learn how to use it, and it will make me seem like more of a threat...which could be a good or bad thing. Anyway, as long as I can get close enough to hit them with the aluminum bat, which shouldn't be difficult since I'll be sneaking around, I'll be okay.
So, I will travel to the GSL water tanks at nighttime(I'll sleep during the day then travel so that I will arrive at about 1:00 am, which is when sleepers usually hit their deepest REM cycle), using a book from the library to find out just which tanks I'm supposed to use, and any enemies I find I will knock out and loot but STEALTHILY. Then I will continue on my way until I reach the right water tanks. I'll fill up all my canteens and put them in my backpack, then skedaddle before anyone realizes I'm there. Now what I would have liked to have done was to actually control the water tanks and some kind of food supply, but I don't have nearly enough firepower to do that, so for now just stealing will have to do.
And as for teammates? I'll wait and see who turns up. In the meantime, I'll go out and raid for supplies a few times a day, enough so that I have a surplus(this surplus I will store in my ice chests) just in case. And I will also be practicing with my hunting rifle, learning from books how to use it, etc. but not actually firing it unless necessary...don't want to attract unfriendly attention.

Step 1: Assuming the power has gone out, I will immediately search my house for anything that could be useful. I can find a hunting rifle in the garage(though I cannot effectively wield it), a first aid kit in the bathroom(it's stocked with quite a lot; my dad likes to be prepared), enough canned food to last me at least a few days(hey, I like Chef Boyardee. Don't judge me), a full canteen(we go hiking sometimes), a Leatherman knife(versatile and useful, but the blades are small), and of course my trusty mountain bike(it's in good condition, and fast). I should be able to stuff all this equipment into my backpack(for school) without too much difficulty, with the exception of the rifle, which I will sling over my shoulder using the strap. I do this immediately because otherwise, once the panic sets in people will ransack the place themselves trying to get my stuff, and the bite-sized person that I am, I probably will not be able to fend them off.\r\nStep 2: With the assumption that my parents are not home, I shall have to abandon my pets. It's unfortunate, but we're talking about my life, here. They will have to fend for their own.\r\nStep 3: I will leave the house immediately and set out for the Energy Solutions head office. I am going to Energy Solutions for two reasons; one, it is not likely to be the first place that pops into peoples' heads, so therefore it won't be ransacked immediately(this means that on my bike I will probably be able to reach it before any looting occurs), and two, it's the most likely place for me to get some kind of Haz-Mat suit, gas mask, or something of the kind. They deal with toxic and radioactive waste disposal; how can they not have Haz-Mat gear? If I encounter any zombies on the way, I will just flee. Apparently they walk pretty slow, and I'm almost positive that going top speed on my bike, I'll be able to escape without being exposed. I cannot run the risk of shooting them because then their "particles"-dead skin, blood, etc. etc- would probably reach me. I can't take that chance. When I go inside, I'll lock up my bike outside. I can't risk losing it at this stage.\r\nStep 4: Having now acquired some sort of protection against being infected in the form of a hazardous material suit, I will now make my way to the nearest sporting goods, power tools, or similar store. Best case scenario, I might find some kind of martial arts studio or dojo(I'm sure there are plenty in Salt Lake). When I have found one of these places, I'll grab a melee weapon from it(crowbar, baseball bat, isshinryu staff, whatever). The reasoning behind this is that my gun is effectively useless in my hands. I have little to no idea how to operate it, plus it's heavy. On the other hand, I am at least moderately skilled with melee weapons, having trained in martial arts, and therefore I will be able to use them effectively. My plan is to run if I see a zombie. If they get close enough so that I can't run, I shall just have to whack them on the head with my melee weapon, hopefully giving me enough of a reprieve to get on my bike and gtfo. If even that fails, then I will have to shoot them; even I can shoot from close range, and that is the only situation where I would need to use the gun.\r\nStep 5: Now that I am not only defended against infection but armed, I just need to find a way to sustain my existence. I'll go to the nearest supermarket and get whatever hasn't been looted already. Food is best; something that lasts long, like beef jerky, would be my first choice. I'd also grab a poncho, first aid kit, vitamins/minerals(in pill form, presumably), powdered milk, binoculars, a few dry bags(I can find these at sport supply stores, they're usually for rafting), matches/lighter, an ice chest, and some heavier food like Ramen Noodles. If one store is empty, then I'll go to the next, and as for panicked humans? Keep on the down-low as much as possible, and stay away from big crowds at all costs. It will be time consuming but worth it. \r\nNote: Throughout the course of this, I will stay on the sidewalks with my bike, and be as cautious as I can. I don't think people will be too concerned with whether the light is red or green in the apocalypse. \r\n\r\nWeapons: 30-06 Rifle[1 full magazine], Aluminum Baseball Bat. \r\nArmor: Haz-Mat Suit. \r\nEdibles: Beef Jerky[10 bags], Chef Boyardee[5 cans], Ramen Noodles[5 packages].\r\nDrinks: 1 Canteen of Water[full], Powdered Milk.\r\nMiscellaneous Supplies: Backpack, poncho, first aid kit, vitamins/minerals, binoculars, 5 dry bags, matches[12], Leatherman knife, ice chests[3]. \r\nTransportation: Bicycle. \r\n\r\nI think the best place to go would be somewhere that's completely useless. Someplace that nobody would ever go because it is completely empty, completely useless, or something like that. That way, it will be relatively safe from the humans. I'm thinking maybe the local library would be a likely location. The bookshelves themselves, if shifted, could easily be made into makeshift barricades. Not only that, but the books are effectively useless for survival, so nobody will go there. And last but not least, I will always have some source of entertainment so my life isn't entirely miserable and I don't go insane. With a little remodeling, I think that the Salt Lake Public Library would be a perfect spot.\r\n\r\nI'll barricade the library using the bookshelves, and try to stockpile some food and water. Go on cautious daily forays into the city, and bring back anything useful to the library: food, water, weapons, etc. Anything.\r\nThat said, I will need to find a way to heat the place now that winter is coming. I think sticking around is a feasible option as long as I'm properly defended against looters, and it's certainly better than in the middle of nowhere, out in the Wasatch Mountains(remember, this is Salt Lake City) during winter. I'd never survive that.\r\nNow, I think what I will have to do is immediately start building up defenses(alternating between going out and getting supplies, and building defenses). I think that the nonfiction books will prove useful, as they can tell me what kind of materials will be most useful, how to build, etc. etc. Now that the initial panic has died down, with a little time, I should be able to find the necessary supplies to barricade the library against possible raiders. That is my first priority.\r\nOnce the library has been set up to defend against possible looters, I shall have to find a way to heat the place up. I suppose that if I could find a corner where there is nothing flammable; for example, upstairs there is only a warehouse, and it's pretty empty and made out of stone, I can set up a good fire there. I can attach that to the heating system that was already installed and presto! You have heat throughout the place.\r\nWith no power, lighting, plumbing, food, and water, are all major problems. I think that I shall have to set up lights all over the place, powered by batteries or something like that. I can probably find how to build an engine or some other kind of generator in a book. If I can hook up a manual electricity generator in the place, I will set up some lights.\r\nAfterwards, is the problem of water. I only started out with a canteen and even with frequent trips to the stores, eventually I will run out. If I can find some way to desalinate the water from the Great Salt Lake, that would be perfect, and I probably can find how to do that.\r\nFood? Well, I will keep raiding stores. Hopefully that will be enough to hold me over until I learn how to use the rifle from the books and practice.\r\n\r\nNow I will need a secondary means of escape; a fire escape seems the most likely choice as these particular zombies cannot climb, but there is always the possibility they will wait for me at the bottom, so I will, using chemistry books from the library and materials I gather from stores, place a few explosives around the bottom of the fire escape. They will be remotely detonated(so that I don't accidentally trigger them myself) and I will set up a trip wire connected to something loud like a bunch of pots and pans to alert me if someone is down there so I can activate the explosives. \r\n\r\nAs for defense?Bookshelves would work for the inside; some kind of steel shutters would be good for the windows(you know, the kind they have in pharmacies) and I'll have to fortify the door somehow(locks are good, chains are good, bars are also feasible). To get the steel shutters, just finding steel would be a start, then I could shutter it in an overlapping scale-like pattern. That would probably be a good defense. It's also possible I could just take them from pharmacies. \r\nAnd of course, I'll darken out all the windows(with paint, covering them up, whatever) so that the lights aren't obvious.\r\n\r\nNow, on to the  most immediate problem: WATER. \r\nNow obviously there would be clean water supplies present at the Great Salt Lake but there would also be other looters there as well who thought of it before I did. Now I will try to get ahold of a black camo outfit so that I will be better hidden at night time, and besides, a Haz-Mat suit will probably make them think I'm a government employee, which could have multiple effects-some good, some bad-but I'm not willing to risk that. \r\nNow that I have the camo outfit, I will leave most of my stuff at the B&N: the food, water, gun, etc. \r\n\r\nWeapons: Aluminum Baseball Bat. \r\nArmor: Camouflage Clothes. \r\nEdibles: None. \r\nDrinks: None. \r\nMiscellaneous Supplies: Backpack, poncho, first aid kit,binoculars, matches[12], canteens[20].\r\n\r\nThe rest is staying at the library. The reason I am leaving the gun behind is because it's useless to me anyway until I learn how to use it, and it will make me seem like more of a threat...which could be a good or bad thing. Anyway, as long as I can get close enough to hit them with the aluminum bat, which shouldn't be difficult since I'll be sneaking around, I'll be okay. \r\nSo, I will travel to the GSL water tanks at nighttime(I'll sleep during the day then travel so that I will arrive at about 1:00 am, which is when sleepers usually hit their deepest REM cycle), using a book from the library to find out just which tanks I'm supposed to use, and any enemies I find I will knock out and loot but STEALTHILY. Then I will continue on my way until I reach the right water tanks. I'll fill up all my canteens and put them in my backpack, then skedaddle before anyone realizes I'm there. Now what I would have liked to have done was to actually control the water tanks and some kind of food supply, but I don't have nearly enough firepower to do that, so for now just stealing will have to do.\r\nAnd as for teammates? I'll wait and see who turns up. In the meantime, I'll go out and raid for supplies a few times a day, enough so that I have a surplus(this surplus I will store in my ice chests) just in case. And I will also be practicing with my hunting rifle, learning from books how to use it, etc. but not actually firing it unless necessary...don't want to attract unfriendly attention.

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