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Posted April 17, '10 7:53pm UTC

Welcome, Veterans and newcomers! This is the reconstruction of The Zombie Survival Club.

First off, I'll introduce you to some of our staff.
-SkaterKidWhoPwns- This is the guy who is my 2nd in command. If you cannot get to me, go to him and he'll answer questions/comments/concerns.
...We have no other staff? Well then.

READ THE RULES. IF YOU DO NOT IT'S LIKELY YOU'RE NOT GETTING IN.
1. Do not ask "Can I join?" or any other variation of that comment. (instructions on how to join will come soon)
2. Do not make a "Scenario" (will be explained later) unless you are a member.
3. Don't be stupid, use logic and think as if you were in the actual situation. OF course it's unlikely that it will happen, but we ask that all visitors and members be serious and literate.
4. Do not question mod or my/skater's authority (unless a mod directly opposes it)
5. No overly smart-*ss comments against other members, visitors, or your superiors.
6. Do not make a Virus until you are a member. The sheet for making a virus will be given to you upon asking me or skater.
7. DO NOT. ABSOLUTELY NOT, ASK "CAN I JOIN?". I cannot stress this enough.

Now that all the rules are over with, I'll go over some Jargons (slang terms relating to "work&quot that we use here.

Scenario - This is a term we use for a situation that is meant to test the user (as well as give you something to do). These are non-linear, and are generally Hypotheticals. Any MEMBER can make a scenario. Scenarios are generally matched with a previous story/situation and they give the supplies you have on hand. As well as the supplies near you. There's also generally a map that goes with it.

Virus, Parasite, Infection - These are the general types of a zombie virus. If there is not a previous virus that is mentioned before a virus or a plan, it is automatically changed to the current dominant virus (Goliath). Goliath will be explained later in the OP.

Zed - Is the common nickname for Zombie. I.E. "Yo dude I just shot up some Zeds!" Or: "Gah! That d**n ZED bit me!"

Well that's it for the terminology! Here's the dominant virus. It's gone through plenty of tweaking, and I think it's pretty much the most realistic virus in the club (aside from hungers). If no other virus is specified before a Scenario or a plan, this is the virus to be used.
Name - Goliath Syndrome
Type - Parasite
Speed - Leisurely walking speed (2-4 MPH)
Sounds - A mild groan, much like a man/woman in pain. No screaming comes from the virus.
Infection - Infection comes from the cells. If so much as a skin cell gets into you, you'll be quickly infected (aprox. 10-160 minutes, depending on strength and immune system of the user). It contracts a lot like AIDS, but it can be ANY cell, be it secretion or meat.
Hunting - It hunts by smell and hearing. It can't see that well, but strong light in the dark will attract it. Best time to attack one is in the daytime. They can't see in detail but they can see blurry instances of light, I.E., a fire or a flashlight.
Other - Cannot swim. Cannot fly, cannot run, cannot climb.
Believability Factor - Goliath was made in a lab (Codename: Anthemia, which is a prototype of the virus. Can also be used for begginers). It hyper-evolved and infected a rat. THe rat got out and began to infect humans (as well as certain birds, causing the infection to be worldwide). What the parasite does is: It enters the body as an infected cell. From there, it infects all the other cells, coating them in a secretion that fends off any form of decomposer (In short, it makes the immune system of the host really powerful). Then, it randomly selects a cell in the body (it is generally a cell in the torso). It grows to about the size of a human heart. IT then crawls it's way into the brain. IT preforms a lobotomy and hooks into the brain, feeding it with a steady flow of required nutrients and oxygen. It shuts down all other systems besides the lungs and flushes out the blood in the body (the parasite provides the necessities for living brain), and spreads long, muscular tentacles across the zombie's body, becoming a puppeteer. The parasite feeds by slowly eating the host. IT'll take a couple of decades in order for the parasite to starve/suffocate.
Best ways to kill it - A shot to the head, killing either the parasite or the brain. A punctured lung will also kill it, but it'd take a couple of minutes for it to actually die.

How to become a member
First off, you need to make a plan. You have everything you would at home. IT would happen the moment you are typing up the answer. So if it happens at night, then it happened at night, happened at day, it happened at day. For the sake of not-cheating, we'll use AG time.
Then, you have to answer a Scenario. The Scenarios come every couple of pages.
Wait for Both the Plan and the Scenario to be graded. Each member has their own form of grading. Once it's been passed around me and Skater will figure out whether or not to let you in.
If you are not initially let in, do not be disheartened! You have unlimited tries to enter, and all members (should) give you tips to get a better plan.

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
Why the hell am I doing this?
Reasons vary. Some people in the club do think the Zompocolypse would actually happen, and some people (like myself) do it for fun and practice for writing. Others do it because they just like killing and surviving zombies, while keeping it pretty realistic.

Can I make a Virus?
Sure, if you give me a comment on my page I'll be happy to give you the layout for the virus.

Can I Join?
Scroll up and read the OP. Do it.

Can I make a Scenario?
If you are a member, sure. Just make sure it's somewhat realistic. There are no real parameters for it, it just has to be a situation. Try and make it hard, too.

I think that's pretty much it! There are a couple of tiddly bits for you guys, though:
Titles/Ranks - A title or a "rank" will be given to you if you do something outstandingly awesome, stupid, weird, or just plain out there while still keeping it realistic. For a list of the ranks/titles, visit my page.
Members - A list of the members can be found on either my, or skater's page.
Discussion - Discussions will be held every now and again, as a stand-in for a Scenario. There will be a topic in BOLD (BOLD, MEMBERS) to let you know what the Discussion is about.
and that is pretty much it.
Now then, have fun everyone!

Welcome, Veterans and newcomers! This is the reconstruction of The Zombie Survival Club.\r\n\r\nFirst off, I'll introduce you to some of our staff.\r\n-SkaterKidWhoPwns- This is the guy who is my 2nd in command. If you cannot get to me, go to him and he'll answer questions/comments/concerns.\r\n...We have no other staff? Well then.\r\n\r\n[b]READ THE RULES. IF YOU DO NOT IT'S LIKELY YOU'RE NOT GETTING IN.[/b]\r\n1. [i]Do not ask "Can I join?" or any other variation of that comment.[/i] (instructions on how to join will come soon)\r\n2. [i]Do not make a "Scenario"[/i] (will be explained later) [i]unless you are a member[/i].\r\n3. [i]Don't be stupid, use logic and think as if you were in the actual situation. OF course it's unlikely that it will happen, but we ask that all visitors and members be serious and literate.[/i]\r\n4. [i]Do not question mod or my/skater's authority (unless a mod directly opposes it)[/i]\r\n5. [i]No overly smart-*ss comments against other members, visitors, or your superiors.[/i]\r\n6. [i]Do not make a Virus until you are a member. The sheet for making a virus will be given to you upon asking me or skater.[/i]\r\n7. [i]DO NOT. ABSOLUTELY NOT, ASK "CAN I JOIN?". I cannot stress this enough.[/i]\r\n\r\n[b]Now that all the rules are over with, I'll go over some Jargons (slang terms relating to "work") that we use here.[/b]\r\n\r\n[i]Scenario[/i] - This is a term we use for a situation that is meant to test the user (as well as give you something to do). These are non-linear, and are generally Hypotheticals. Any MEMBER can make a scenario. Scenarios are generally matched with a previous story/situation and they give the supplies you have on hand. As well as the supplies near you. There's also generally a map that goes with it. \r\n\r\n[i]Virus, Parasite, Infection[/i] - These are the general types of a zombie virus. If there is not a previous virus that is mentioned before a virus or a plan, it is automatically changed to the current dominant virus (Goliath). Goliath will be explained later in the OP.\r\n\r\n[i]Zed[/i] - Is the common nickname for Zombie. I.E. "Yo dude I just shot up some Zeds!" Or: "Gah! That d**n ZED bit me!"\r\n\r\n[b]Well that's it for the terminology! Here's the dominant virus. It's gone through plenty of tweaking, and I think it's pretty much the most realistic virus in the club (aside from hungers). If no other virus is specified before a Scenario or a plan, this is the virus to be used.[/b]\r\n[b]Name[/b] - Goliath Syndrome\r\n[b]Type[/b] - Parasite\r\n[b]Speed[/b] - Leisurely walking speed (2-4 MPH)\r\n[b]Sounds[/b] - A mild groan, much like a man/woman in pain. No screaming comes from the virus.\r\n[b]Infection[/b] - Infection comes from the cells. If so much as a skin cell gets into you, you'll be quickly infected (aprox. 10-160 minutes, depending on strength and immune system of the user). It contracts a lot like AIDS, but it can be ANY cell, be it secretion or meat.\r\n[b]Hunting[/b] - It hunts by smell and hearing. It can't see that well, but strong light in the dark will attract it. Best time to attack one is in the daytime. They can't see in detail but they can see blurry instances of light, I.E., a fire or a flashlight. \r\n[b]Other[/b] - Cannot swim. Cannot fly, cannot run, cannot climb.\r\n[b]Believability Factor[/b] -  Goliath was made in a lab (Codename: Anthemia, which is a prototype of the virus. Can also be used for begginers). It hyper-evolved and infected a rat. THe rat got out and began to infect humans (as well as certain birds, causing the infection to be worldwide). What the parasite does is: It enters the body as an infected cell. From there, it infects all the other cells, coating them in a secretion that fends off any form of decomposer (In short, it makes the immune system of the host really powerful). Then, it randomly selects a cell in the body (it is generally a cell in the torso). It grows to about the size of a human heart. IT then crawls it's way into the brain. IT preforms a lobotomy and hooks into the brain, feeding it with a steady flow of required nutrients and oxygen. It shuts down all other systems besides the lungs and flushes out the blood in the body (the parasite provides the necessities for living brain), and spreads long, muscular tentacles across the zombie's body, becoming a puppeteer. The parasite feeds by slowly eating the host. IT'll take a couple of decades in order for the parasite to starve/suffocate. \r\n[b]Best ways to kill it[/b] - A shot to the head, killing either the parasite or the brain. A punctured lung will also kill it, but it'd take a couple of minutes for it to actually die.\r\n\r\n[b]How to become a member[/b]\r\nFirst off, you need to make a plan. You have everything you would at home. IT would happen the moment you are typing up the answer. So if it happens at night, then it happened at night, happened at day, it happened at day. For the sake of not-cheating, we'll use AG time. \r\nThen, you have to answer a Scenario. The Scenarios come every couple of pages. \r\nWait for Both the Plan and the Scenario to be graded. Each member has their own form of grading. Once it's been passed around me and Skater will figure out whether or not to let you in. \r\nIf you are not initially let in, do not be disheartened! You have unlimited tries to enter, and all members (should) give you tips to get a better plan. \r\n\r\n[b][i]FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS[/b][/i]\r\n[b]Why the hell am I doing this?[/b]\r\nReasons vary. Some people in the club do think the Zompocolypse would actually happen, and some people (like myself) do it for fun and practice for writing. Others do it because they just like killing and surviving zombies, while keeping it pretty realistic.\r\n\r\n[b]Can I make a Virus?[/b]\r\nSure, if you give me a comment on my page I'll be happy to give you the layout for the virus.\r\n\r\n[b]Can I Join?[/b]\r\nScroll up and read the OP. Do it. \r\n\r\n[b]Can I make a Scenario?[/b]\r\nIf you are a member, sure. Just make sure it's somewhat realistic. There are no real parameters for it, it just has to be a situation. Try and make it hard, too.\r\n\r\nI think that's pretty much it! There are a couple of tiddly bits for you guys, though:\r\n[b]Titles/Ranks[/b] - A title or a "rank" will be given to you if you do something outstandingly awesome, stupid, weird, or just plain out there while still keeping it realistic. For a list of the ranks/titles, visit my page.\r\n[b]Members[/b] - A list of the members can be found on either my, or skater's page.\r\n[b]Discussion[/b] - Discussions will be held every now and again, as a stand-in for a Scenario. There will be a topic in [b]BOLD (BOLD, MEMBERS)[/b] to let you know what the Discussion is about.\r\nand that is pretty much it. \r\nNow then, have fun everyone!

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Kylelolcat

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Nomad

Posted April 24, '10 3:49pm UTC

Just for fun...

"Your trapped in a house with a can of gasoline, a tv, a lamp, and 10 zombies. You have no lighter, or weapons on you. How will you survive."

First, I'm assuming the cover/shade on the lamp is solid and can carry gasoline. I'd brace the back of the lamp against the back of the TV and pour gasoline in the lamp. I'd turn on the lamp, either making a flamethrower or a flame cannon. Either way, barbecued zeds! Any stragglers, I'd crush their heads with the TV, since most TVs are heavy enough to crush a most likely fractured head. I'm not worrying about their speed, since most likely they'll try to approach me while I'm behind the TV. Goliath doesn't move fast anyways, so I doubt BBQ'd Goliath is going to move much faster.

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Kylelolcat

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Posted April 24, '10 4:22pm UTC

ZOMBIES are unrealistic. An exploding tv w/ shrapnel will probably kill them, and I don't see why electricity wouldn't work, and it never said what type of zombie. Everyone here relies on the tv exploding or something too. even second in command did that except a burning tv wouldn't really kill them since they'd probably go around the tv.

Okay, I'll reply to this before I go have some lunch and let others post for a while:

FIRST: We are making realistic solutions to unrealistic circumstances.

SECOND: I only used the TV for crushing and as something to hold back the backwards fire, since I'm behind the lamp.

THIRD: Shrapnel wouldn't work due to the inaccuracy: You literally have to shoot 'em in the head, and shrapnel would more likely hit their non-lethal sections, namely not-the-head. A good explosion could kill the brain/parasite by either direct damage by burning or the concussion from flying into the wall. Then, just finish it with a TV to the head.

[quote]ZOMBIES are unrealistic. An exploding tv w/ shrapnel will probably kill them, and I don't see why electricity wouldn't work, and it never said what type of zombie. Everyone here relies on the tv exploding or something too. even second in command did that except a burning tv wouldn't really kill them since they'd probably go around the tv. [/quote]\r\n\r\nOkay, I'll reply to this before I go have some lunch and let others post for a while:\r\n\r\nFIRST: We are making realistic solutions to unrealistic circumstances.\r\n\r\nSECOND: I only used the TV for crushing and as something to hold back the backwards fire, since I'm behind the lamp.\r\n\r\nTHIRD: Shrapnel wouldn't work due to the inaccuracy: You literally have to shoot 'em in the head, and shrapnel would more likely hit their non-lethal sections, namely not-the-head. A good explosion could kill the brain/parasite by either direct damage by burning or the concussion from flying into the wall. Then, just finish it with a TV to the head.

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thisisnotanalt

9,824 posts

Shepherd

Posted April 24, '10 4:50pm UTC

1) I meant my survival plan, I think at the start of this thread he even said the difference.

-_-

Don't be a smartass. I'm a veteran member. I know the difference. Nobody's read your answer for the scenario either, and because you were never approved you shouldn't be making one in the first place.

ZOMBIES are unrealistic.

We're thinking of realistic solutions to unrealistic problems, as Kyle stated.

An exploding tv w/ shrapnel will probably kill them

It would require insane luck to hit the parasites.

and I don't see why electricity wouldn't work,

I believe thoad's made it clear before that electricity does not kill the parasite.

and it never said what type of zombie

It's a basic rule of the ZSC that Goliath is the default and is used unless specified otherwise. You not knowing this means that you either didn't read the OP or didn't pay attention.

Everyone here relies on the tv exploding or something too.

The TV isn't the problem, it's relying on the shrapnel to kill them, and also the electric whip thing would be risky, constrictive(you'd have to stay near the outlet, and it would be unwieldy, and whips are very difficult to control, especially when the handle is attached to a wall)and could either not work or end up killing you instead.

I argue your comment, unless you're in the club. Then I say O I'm so sorry.

I'm a former VP (Skater still even has me down as the current one.)

The explosion is good, but just dousing the TV and turning it on may or may not cause an explosion. Gasoline is an insulator, and might just suppress the sparks you'd need to start a fire and therefore an explosion.

[quote]1) I meant my survival plan, I think at the start of this thread he even said the difference.[/quote]\r\n\r\n-_-\r\n\r\nDon't be a smartass.  I'm a veteran member.  I know the difference.  Nobody's read your answer for the scenario either, and because you were never approved you shouldn't be making one in the first place.\r\n\r\n[quote]ZOMBIES are unrealistic.[/quote]\r\n\r\nWe're thinking of realistic solutions to unrealistic problems, as Kyle stated.\r\n\r\n[quote]An exploding tv w/ shrapnel will probably kill them[/quote]\r\n\r\nIt would require insane luck to hit the parasites.\r\n\r\n[quote]and I don't see why electricity wouldn't work,[/quote]\r\n\r\nI believe thoad's made it clear before that electricity does not kill the parasite.  \r\n\r\n[quote]and it never said what type of zombie[/quote]\r\n\r\nIt's a basic rule of the ZSC that Goliath is the default and is used unless specified otherwise.  You not knowing this means that you either didn't read the OP or didn't pay attention.\r\n\r\n[quote]Everyone here relies on the tv exploding or something too.[/quote]\r\n\r\nThe TV isn't the problem, it's relying on the shrapnel to kill them, and also the electric whip thing would be risky, constrictive(you'd have to stay near the outlet, and it would be unwieldy, and whips are very difficult to control, especially when the handle is attached to a wall)and could either not work or end up killing you instead.\r\n\r\n[quote]I argue your comment, unless you're in the club. Then I say O I'm so sorry.[/quote]\r\n\r\nI'm a former VP (Skater still even has me down as the current one.)\r\n\r\nThe explosion is good, but just dousing the TV and turning it on may or may not cause an explosion.  Gasoline is an [i]insulator,[/i] and might just suppress the sparks you'd need to start a fire and therefore an explosion.

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bacobit

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Posted April 25, '10 1:44pm UTC

I really cofused, Am I Member or am I still in the process oof becomeing one.

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Kylelolcat

4,813 posts

Nomad

Posted April 25, '10 1:49pm UTC

Hmmm... Do you have to successfully solve the escape AND a situation?

BTW throad, if I may ask as politely as a typed forum post can allow, did you finish reading my plan and only found the gun problem wrong, or did you stop at the trying the gusn and didn't finish?

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skater_kid_who_pwns

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Posted April 25, '10 5:07pm UTC

To every one that posted a plan.....

If you could make a post on my profile asking to review your plan (and what page number its on, as well as which one you want me to review (if you made more then one)) I would be happy to do so.

The scenario I posted was an example....wasn't really ment to be answered.....Yes, I used an exploding tv, but it wasn't meant to be taken litteraly. And BTW, an electric wip wouldn't wrok, beacuse you owuld have to hold onto it as well....and electricity dosn't hurt our zombies.

Alt, and the other guy. Both of you need to knock it off. I'm not going to tollerate swearing and yelling.

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skater_kid_who_pwns

4,376 posts

Blacksmith

Posted April 25, '10 8:49pm UTC

kylelolcat plan review!!!!

First, I'd find the guns my Dad owns

What kind of guns?

I'll also take some food that will last a long time, since I'll be doing a lot of traveling

What food does this include?

When I get outside, I'd have a choice of my dad's cross-country tour motorcycle, my dad's Honda Element, and my brother's delivery van

motorcycles can weave in and out of abandoned cars, but can't go off road. Elemts are nice cars, sorta small, but again, your stuck on roads. Just cause it has four wheel drive, thoe shpe of those would not work well. And don't take the cargo van. you would get no where on the roads, and would get stuck really fast off road due to the longness of the vehicle. (You owuld hit a small hill, and get the underside scraped, and some lines broken, then your stuck)

I would say the motorcycle due to it beign the msot agile, or the elemnt. don't consider the van.

a machete that is relatively short but very light

If it has a guard between your hand and the blade, go ahead and use it. If not, take it anyones. The other ones wouldn't do you much good.

my Laptop computer

Once you run out of battery. its done bro. Power would be off in a week.

The rest of the plan is scrapped, beacsue we don't allow survivors in plans.

Fix what Ipointed out, and retry please.

I'll get the other person on my profile later. i have to run.

kylelolcat plan review!!!!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[quote] First, I'd find the guns my Dad owns[/quote]\r\n\r\nWhat kind of guns?\r\n\r\n[quote]I'll also take some food that will last a long time, since I'll be doing a lot of traveling[/quote]\r\n\r\nWhat food does this include?\r\n\r\n[quote]When I get outside, I'd have a choice of my dad's cross-country tour motorcycle, my dad's Honda Element, and my brother's delivery van[/quote]\r\n\r\nmotorcycles can weave in and out of abandoned cars, but can't go off road. Elemts are nice cars, sorta small, but again, your stuck on roads. Just cause it has four wheel drive, thoe shpe of those would not work well. And don't take the cargo van. you would get no where on the roads, and would get stuck really fast off road due to the longness of the vehicle. (You owuld hit a small hill, and get the underside scraped, and some lines broken, then your stuck)\r\n\r\nI would say the motorcycle due to it beign the msot agile, or the elemnt. don't consider the van. \r\n\r\n[quote]a machete that is relatively short but very light[/quote]\r\n\r\nIf it has a guard between your hand and the blade, go ahead and use it. If not, take it anyones. The other ones wouldn't do you much good. \r\n\r\n[quote]my Laptop computer[/quote]\r\n\r\nOnce you run out of battery. its done bro. Power would be off in a week.\r\n\r\nThe rest of the plan is scrapped, beacsue we don't allow survivors in plans. \r\n\r\nFix what  Ipointed out, and retry please.\r\n\r\nI'll get the other person on my profile later. i have to run.

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Kylelolcat

4,813 posts

Nomad

Posted April 25, '10 9:50pm UTC

Oh crap, my plan has holes like swiss cheese!

Escape plan: Revision 2.0:

Right now, it's day. After finding my dead pets, I'd turn on the TV, most likely either finding static or something about the outbreak. First, I'd find the pistol and 12 gauge shotgun my Dad owns, and try to remember how to use them. These will more suppliment my gear, wich I'd keep light to help with zombie dodging. Since I live fairly remotely, I'll have plenty of time to prepare for escape. I'll also take some high-carb food that will last a long time and can be eaten cold, like a lot of MREs, some honey or some of the MANY canned goods I have expiration dated going past the year 2020, since I'll be doing a lot of traveling. When I get outside, I'd have a choice of my dad's cross between a sport bike and a cross-country tour motorcycle, my dad's Honda Element, and my brother's delivery van. The motorcycle is quick but badly armored, the delivery van would be clumsy but durable, and the Element is a cross of the two. All three of these would do well on-road, but the van might have trouble in other parts, so I will be ready to abandon the thing at any time. I know from experience that the Element does adequately off-road, and I think I saw my dad navigate a forest with the motorcycle. Most likely, I'd choose the Motorcycle for speed, manuverability and choosing what I'm best with.

Depending on the vehicle of choice of vehicle, I'd take an appropriate amount of extra gas. I'd take a machete that is relatively short but very light. If all this that I have sounds ridiculous, I actually have everything I mention. I'd gather more supplies, including bear traps and a stone my dad uses to sharpen his machete. For what I'll wear, I'd take my steel-toe boots, motorcycle jacket and helmet, thick blue jeans and my back pack in addition to my normal T-shirts and underwear. I'd probably head to the east coast so I could find a boat to sail away with.

If I find any survivors, I'll probably ignore them, excepting anyone who shoots me. In that case, I shoot back and take whatever of their stuff I can use when they're dead. If I notice a particuarily people-free store I think I can get something of use form, such as an gun store, gas station, Outdoors sports store (Like Gander Mt. stores), or food store, I'd probably lay traps near my bike and approach the store with caution, paying attention so that I don't get hit by a trap.

Oh crap, my plan has holes like swiss cheese!\r\n\r\nEscape plan: Revision 2.0:\r\n\r\nRight now, it's day. After finding my dead pets, I'd turn on the TV, most likely either finding static or something about the outbreak. First, I'd find the pistol and 12 gauge shotgun my Dad owns, and try to remember how to use them. These will more suppliment my gear, wich I'd keep light to help with zombie dodging. Since I live fairly remotely, I'll have plenty of time to prepare for escape. I'll also take some high-carb food that will last a long time and can be eaten cold, like a lot of MREs, some honey or some of the MANY canned goods I have expiration dated going past the year 2020, since I'll be doing a lot of traveling. When I get outside, I'd have a choice of my dad's cross between a sport bike and a cross-country tour motorcycle, my dad's Honda Element, and my brother's delivery van. The motorcycle is quick but badly armored, the delivery van would be clumsy but durable, and the Element is a cross of the two. All three of these would do well on-road, but the van might have trouble in other parts, so I will be ready to abandon the thing at any time. I know from experience that the Element does adequately off-road, and I think I saw my dad navigate a forest with the motorcycle. Most likely, I'd choose the Motorcycle for speed, manuverability and choosing what I'm best with.\r\n\r\nDepending on the vehicle of choice of vehicle, I'd take an appropriate amount of extra gas. I'd take a machete that is relatively short but very light. If all this that I have sounds ridiculous, I actually have everything I mention. I'd gather more supplies, including bear traps and a stone my dad uses to sharpen his machete. For what I'll wear, I'd take my steel-toe boots, motorcycle jacket and helmet, thick blue jeans and my back pack in addition to my normal T-shirts and underwear. I'd probably head to the east coast so I could find a boat to sail away with. \r\n\r\nIf I find any survivors, I'll probably ignore them, excepting anyone who shoots me. In that case, I shoot back and take whatever of their stuff I can use when they're dead. If I notice a particuarily people-free store I think I can get something of use form, such as an gun store, gas station, Outdoors sports store (Like Gander Mt. stores), or food store, I'd probably lay traps near my bike and approach the store with caution, paying attention so that I don't get hit by a trap.

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TrayDogenzaka

386 posts

Nomad

Posted April 25, '10 11:03pm UTC

Once you run out of battery. its done bro. Power would be off in a week.

Not necissarily. In his current situation, yes, but you can buy a solar powered charger (Can charge batteries, laptops, and I believe can power some small things) from updeadreport.com. Now you KNOW that'll come in handy. Batteries for radios, chargable laptop, and you could probably rig some helpful stuff with it's ability to run small things. Mechanical spy hamster, anyway?

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Maverick4

6,804 posts

Peasant

Posted April 26, '10 12:04am UTC

SURVIVAL PLAN ZULU-YANKEE 2.0*
Note: Items that are Bolded and Italized have been added

On My Person:
Head: Base-Ball Hat, Sunglasses
Torso and Arms: Undershirt, T-Shirt
Hands: Fingerless-Grip Gloves
Legs: Cargo Pants + Snake Guards***
Feet: Steel-Toed Boots
Extra: ID, Letters (incase I die of old age, not eaten)

Weapon (15 lbs): Armalite AR-10 (5 clips), Elephant Gun (3 clips)
Side Arm (2 lbs): Bouie Knife

Food (15 lbs): 30 assorted MREs(on starvation rations, would give me 60 meals of about 3000 calories a day), 1 quart of water, Saline Tables, Water Purifier, plus a canteen of straight Vodka (not to drink, but incase of any abrasions)

First Aid (3 lbs): 3 feet of Heavy Bandages, Whisky (to deaden pain), Band-Aids, an Anti-Backterial, Soap, Gauze, Gloves, Surgical Scissors, Flare Gun, etc. Just your everyday first aid kit.

Equipment (20 lbs): Entrenching Shovel, Bug Spray, Spec Ops Watch, Assorted Novels, FM 21-76, Local/State Maps, Bible, Boot Knife, Compass, Matches, Duck Tape, Hatchet, Parachute Cord (7-Strand) Fishing Kit, Fire Striker and Flint, Mag Lite, Whistel, Survival Mirror, GPS, Walkie Talkie (friend has other), Weapon Cleaning Kits and Spare Parts,small pot****.

Special (3 lbs): Small Trowel, Vegetable Seeds

Weapon Weight: 17 lbs
Pack Weight: 41 lbs
Total Weight: 58 lbs

*me and a friend were bored over the summer, and came up with a bunch of rallying points and what not for pretty much any thing. And as a joke, zombies. (ZULU-ZULU was incase I had to live with my Stepmom... Ugh...)

** All equipment will be carried in a military grade ruck sack.

*** Snake Guards are Kevlar 'shin guards' that protect against snake bites. And also briars, snaggers, and anthing else.

****Offers same use as can, so can was removed.

PART I:

I live in the foot hills of my state, so I have two options. 1) head to the predestined rally point with my un-zed friend (unlikely) 2) head to the coast. Obviously, I would pick Plan 2 (Zulu-Yankee[Bravo]). I would leave my friend several messages, telling him what my plan is (In Caeser Shift-3). I would hang out mostly in the swamps that frequent my state, making a swampbed every night in the deepest part I can find. After I reach Highway-17 (highway that runs up the entire east coast), I've reached part II.

PART II:

By now, I'm about halfway through with the MREs, and my water supply is running low (assuming I re-stocked with swamp water[water purifyer]). Now here comes the tricky part: The coast is heavily poplulated in the north and the south, so I have a 50-mile gap with with to run the gauntlet. I'm guessing that about half the zeds have left the city (lack of prey), but I'd rather fight in flat land than an urban enviroment. IF I survie to make it to the coast, I would build a raft (using logs, and parachute cord). I would sail to a barrier island, and clear it out if its populated (which I doubt). The island would be in open water, so vunrable to storms, but I doubt Goliath can swim, and if it did:

FISH LIKE DEAD THINGS

PART III:

The 'fun' part. Surviving. I have a fishing kit, Elephant gun, Shelter, vegitables, and now I just dont have to get eaten by zeds. I would hope to use the hatchet to construct some sort of fort with the palmtrees, and go from there. I would HOPE to use the flares, signal mirror, and fires to attract the attention of any search planes, however unlikely. And live life to its fullest, and try not to die from boredom. Last thing I want is to go crazy. Maby memorize the bible?

[b]SURVIVAL PLAN ZULU-YANKEE 2.0*[/b]\r\nNote: Items that are [b]Bolded[/b] and [i]Italized[/i] have been added\r\n\r\n[b]On My Person:[/b] \r\n     [b]Head:[/b] Base-Ball Hat, Sunglasses\r\n     [b]Torso and Arms:[/b] Undershirt, T-Shirt\r\n     [b]Hands:[/b] Fingerless-Grip Gloves\r\n     [b]Legs:[/b] Cargo Pants + Snake Guards***\r\n     [b]Feet:[/b] Steel-Toed Boots\r\n     Extra: ID, Letters (incase I die of old age, not eaten)\r\n\r\n[b]Weapon (15 lbs):[/b] Armalite AR-10 (5 clips), Elephant Gun (3 clips)\r\n[b]Side Arm (2 lbs):[/b] Bouie Knife\r\n\r\n[b]Food (15 lbs):[/b] [i][b]30 assorted MREs[/b][/i](on  starvation rations, would give me 60 meals of about 3000 calories a day), 1 quart of water, Saline Tables, Water Purifier, plus a canteen of straight Vodka (not to drink, but incase of any abrasions)\r\n\r\n[b]First Aid (3 lbs):[/b] 3 feet of Heavy Bandages, Whisky (to deaden pain), Band-Aids, an Anti-Backterial, Soap, Gauze, Gloves, Surgical Scissors, Flare Gun, etc. Just your everyday first aid kit.\r\n\r\n[b]Equipment (20 lbs):[/b] Entrenching Shovel, Bug Spray, Spec Ops Watch, Assorted Novels, FM 21-76, [i][b]Local/State Maps[/b][/i], Bible, Boot Knife, Compass, Matches, Duck Tape, Hatchet, Parachute Cord (7-Strand) Fishing Kit, Fire Striker and Flint, Mag Lite, Whistel, Survival Mirror, GPS, Walkie Talkie (friend has other), [i][b]Weapon Cleaning Kits and Spare Parts[/b][/i],[i][b]small pot****[/b][/i].\r\n\r\n[b]Special (3 lbs):[/b] Small Trowel, Vegetable Seeds\r\n\r\n[b]Weapon Weight:[/b] 17 lbs\r\n[b]Pack Weight:[/b] 41 lbs\r\n[b]Total Weight:[/b] 58 lbs\r\n\r\n*me and a friend were bored over the summer, and came up with a bunch of rallying points and what not for pretty much any thing. And as a joke, zombies. (ZULU-ZULU was incase I had to live with my Stepmom... Ugh...)\r\n\r\n** All equipment will be carried in a military grade ruck sack.\r\n\r\n*** Snake Guards are Kevlar 'shin guards' that protect against snake bites. And also briars, snaggers, and anthing else.\r\n\r\n****Offers same use as can, so can was removed.\r\n\r\n[b]PART I:[/b]\r\n\r\nI live in the foot hills of my state, so I have two options. 1) head to the predestined rally point with my un-zed friend (unlikely) 2) head to the coast. Obviously, I would pick Plan 2 (Zulu-Yankee[Bravo]). I would leave my friend several messages, telling him what my plan is (In Caeser Shift-3). I would hang out mostly in the swamps that frequent my state, making a swampbed every night in the deepest part I can find. After I reach Highway-17 (highway that runs up the entire east coast), I've reached part II.\r\n\r\n[b]PART II:[/b]\r\n\r\nBy now, I'm about halfway through with the MREs, and my water supply is running low (assuming I re-stocked with swamp water[water purifyer]). Now here comes the tricky part: The coast is heavily poplulated in the north and the south, so I have a 50-mile gap with with to run the gauntlet. I'm guessing that about half the zeds have left the city (lack of prey), but I'd rather fight in flat land than an urban enviroment. IF I survie to make it to the coast, I would build a raft (using logs, and parachute cord). I would sail to a barrier island, and clear it out if its populated (which I doubt). The island would be in open water, so vunrable to storms, but I doubt Goliath can swim, and if it did:\r\n\r\nFISH LIKE DEAD THINGS\r\n\r\n[b]PART III:[/b]\r\n\r\nThe 'fun' part. Surviving. I have a fishing kit, Elephant gun, Shelter, vegitables, and now I just dont have to get eaten by zeds. I would hope to use the hatchet to construct some sort of fort with the palmtrees, and go from there. I would HOPE to use the flares, signal mirror, and fires to attract the attention of any search planes, however unlikely. And live life to its fullest, and try not to die from boredom. Last thing I want is to go crazy. Maby memorize the bible?

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thisisnotanalt

9,824 posts

Shepherd

Posted April 26, '10 12:41am UTC

O sorry I didn't know I had to be "approved" to post a plan or scenario answer./sarcasm The rules implied MAKING a scenario i.e. You're trapeed in a van with 3 goliaths approaching, 2 fast zombies, and you're out of gas, what do you do?

At least in the old thread, your plan had to be approved before you could post a scenario.

I read the op, otherwise I wouldn't have made that "smartass" comment, should I say, *******?

You can read the OP and forget parts of it -_-

Anyway, quit it with the name-calling. I don't want a flamewar, I want you to try to redo that part of your scenario plan and learn how to take criticism or just stop trying.

The cord doesn't really need to be a whip, you can throw it at them by holding it and pushing and releasing. Also the length of the cord should be at least 1.5 meters, so it wouldn't be that short.

You said in your plan that you would use it as a whip. Sorry for criticizing what you wrote and not what you thought =.=

Either way, it would be difficult and dangerous to control if you use it in the way you specified.

SQUAIDS

It's serious sh**!

Onto kyle's plan . . . .

12 gauge shotgun

. . . stay awwwaaaaaay. Too much noise, kick, etc. and will attract moar zeds. You dun want moar zeds.

Also, try to be more specific on what kinds of canned goods and how many you would take. You'd need to be exceedingly careful on the roads if you choose to use them because of cars, zeds, and various detritus that would be spread in the streets because of the outbreak.

All that I'm wondering about is your storage space. You're taking a lot of stuff, and if you choose the motorcycle, which you imply you do, you'll have a lot of trouble transporting all of it. You'd need to either take the car or get a huge military backpack to be able to carry everything.

[quote]O sorry I didn't know I had to be "approved" to post a plan or scenario answer./sarcasm The rules implied MAKING a scenario i.e. You're trapeed in a van with 3 goliaths approaching, 2 fast zombies, and you're out of gas, what do you do? [/quote]\r\n\r\nAt least in the old thread, your plan had to be approved before you could post a scenario.\r\n\r\n[quote]I read the op, otherwise I wouldn't have made that "smartass" comment, should I say, *******?[/quote]\r\n\r\nYou can read the OP and forget parts of it -_-\r\n\r\nAnyway, quit it with the name-calling.  I don't want a flamewar, I want you to try to redo that part of your scenario plan and learn how to take criticism or just stop trying.\r\n\r\n[quote]The cord doesn't really need to be a whip, you can throw it at them by holding it and pushing and releasing. Also the length of the cord should be at least 1.5 meters, so it wouldn't be that short.[/quote]\r\n\r\nYou said in your plan that you would use it as a whip.  Sorry for criticizing what you wrote and not what you thought =.=\r\n\r\nEither way, it would be difficult and dangerous to control if you use it in the way you specified.\r\n\r\n[quote]SQUAIDS[/quote]\r\n\r\nIt's serious sh**!\r\n\r\nOnto kyle's plan . . . .\r\n\r\n[quote]12 gauge shotgun[/quote]\r\n\r\n . . . stay awwwaaaaaay. Too much noise, kick, etc. and will attract moar zeds.  You dun want moar zeds.\r\n\r\nAlso, try to be more specific on what kinds of canned goods and how many you would take.  You'd need to be exceedingly careful on the roads if you choose to use them because of cars, zeds, and various detritus that would be spread in the streets because of the outbreak.\r\n\r\nAll that I'm wondering about is your storage space.  You're taking a lot of stuff, and if you choose the motorcycle, which you imply you do, you'll have a lot of trouble transporting all of it.  You'd need to either take the car or get a huge military backpack to be able to carry everything.

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skater_kid_who_pwns

4,376 posts

Blacksmith

Posted April 26, '10 1:05am UTC

but you can buy a solar powered charger

Which, he dosn't have. So for him, yes, once his battery is out, its out.

. . stay awwwaaaaaay. Too much noise, kick, etc. and will attract moar zeds. You dun want moar zeds.

Alt, we all agreed, its better then nothing right?

On the topic of shotguns, is anything other then a .12 gauge good? Such as a 16 gauge, or 20 guage even?

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Dannydaninja

948 posts

Nomad

Posted April 26, '10 1:58am UTC

I finnaly got the SZSC Members to let me post my plan on here...Okay so i started typing at 9:22pm AG time. HERE IS MY ULTIMATE ZOMBIE SURVIVAL PLAN!

DAY 1
I would get the early warning as me and a group of friends ( 4 including me ) have already discussed millions of times what we would do in a zombie outbreak... we would ring each other and tell each other if zombies are here.

After getting the warning call from one of my friends i stumble out of the computer room and into the kitchen. As i write this i am actaully home alone so i dont have to worry about infected family members in the house right now. I grab a few kitchen knifes off the counter and attach two to a broomstick using duct tape. ( i rip off the broomhead )

I then secure the household while locking all the doors and windows ect. My dog is currently on his bed in the house but my cat is outside. I get my school bag and start loading up on food, water, and supplies. I also grab my AirRifle in my closet. After getting also my diary and money sock (i keep my $300 in a sock :P) i let my dog off his chain and carry him in the backyard ( he's a jack russel so hes not that heavy! ) threw the back door. A few zombies may be trying to get in the backyard too but we have steel gates which would hold em for AGES.

My plan from there is to climb onto the roof. I head to the old shed which is also in the backyard and get the ladder, then i get all my weapons, supplies and dog up on the roof. If for whatever reason the ladder isn't anywhere in the backyard i would have to carry some weapons, and supplies and climb onto a certain tree and then jump onto the roof, leaving my dog to sadly die.

Soon after my friends and there familys would be arriving, they would have to fight threw the many zombies guarding the gate to get to my backyard. If i'm lucky maybe 3 out of the 12 might make it.

There i stay for the rest of the night, keeping quiet as to not attract any zombies. Oh and i also kick off the ladder so there is no direct access on the roof
DAY 2 - 5
I stay on the roof for as many days as possible until a rescue patrol comes or i run out of supplies.
DAY 6
Then me, my friends (if they made it), my dog (if i had the ladder to carry him up) and my cat (she could of climbed on the tree and onto the roof with us, but that's highly unlikely) abandon our location due to lack of food or water... we leave early, about 6:30am. You don't want to leave on the first few hours as the traffic will be packed and there will be so many people panicing that you will be driven to panic

We then get on my family bikes, there are 6 of em. If there are more then 6 of us on the roof we tell them we'll be back. I attach my dogs leash on my bike so he doesn't wander off. Or if there are more then 6 of us on the roof those people could look after my dog.
Then we head to our evac point, our local Army Fort. 14km away.

If people are there then great, we've made it and we tell a helicopter to pick up other surviors waiting on my roof. If the army fort has been overun we grab what guns we can get and move to our back-up evac point, my farm. We get in a Army Jeep and drive there. Picking up the surviors on the roof on the way, and carrying our bikes in the back.

After about a 3 1/2 hour drive we're about 12km away from my farm, so we abandon the jeep and get back on our bike in case a pack of zombies heard the jeep and followed it... if we drove the jeep straight to the farm they would know exactly where we are.
If we have more then 6 surviors, those who are the bravest would have to walk 12km. The others will ride on the bikes.

Well now that i have made it to my farm with other surviors ( or not ) i grab my dads hunting rifle ( and axe ) that he bought to shoot some fox or something. If any of my family members were alive they would come to the farm.

by now it's starting to get a bit dark, We barricade the farmhouses doors and windows with planks of wood. The farmhouse is surrounded by an electric fence, the only thing that isn't electric is the gate. If we know zombies are coming we put the electric fence on full voltage to stun the zombies if they can be stunned. We reinforce the gate by simply pushing the tractor against it.

DAY 7
We now have a great mini-fort where we grow our food... if things are looking bad we loot the neighbors farm, across the road, i defintley know he's got a shotgun and he could be alive. We raid as a group. If things are still looking bad we loot the nearest town, 28km away, we also have a holiday home in that town with the looting highlights being: An Axe, Laptop and an Ipod Touch. So we loot our holiday house unless it has already been looted by other looters.

The laptop will give us communication as it has a very exspensive internet connection... it will also be used to recharge the Ipod Touch which will be our main source of entertainment )

END

So there you have it. My Zombie Survival plan. I have a handful a effective meele weapons, 3 or more guns (depends if we found any at the army fort), a town to loot regularly (although it is dangerous), an orchard to grow food, decent defensives, and a survior group: My dog,My cat, Friends, Family, and Friends Family
(unless for whatever reason they didn't make it)

Now i hope this get me's in The Zombie Survival Club but if not, tell me how my plan could be better!

[b]I finnaly got the SZSC Members to let me post my plan on here...Okay so i started typing at 9:22pm AG time. HERE IS MY ULTIMATE ZOMBIE SURVIVAL PLAN![/b]\r\n \r\n                         [b]DAY 1[/b]\r\nI would get the early warning as me and a group of friends ( 4 including me ) have already discussed millions of times what we would do in a zombie outbreak... we would ring each other and tell each other if zombies are here. \r\n\r\nAfter getting the warning call from one of  my friends i stumble out of the computer room and into the kitchen. As i write this i am actaully home alone so i dont have to worry about infected family members in the house right now. I grab a few kitchen knifes off the counter and attach two to a broomstick using duct tape. ( i rip off the broomhead )\r\n\r\n[img]http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad238/DannyDaNinja/YODIGGYDOGDOGGYDIG.jpg?t=1272245380[/img]\r\n\r\nI then secure the household while locking all the doors and windows ect. My dog is currently on his bed in the house but my cat is outside. I get my school bag and start loading up on food, water, and supplies. I also grab my AirRifle in my closet. After getting also my diary and money sock (i keep my $300 in a sock :P) i let my dog off his chain and carry him in the backyard ( he's a jack russel so hes not that heavy! ) threw the back door. A few zombies may be trying to get in the backyard too but we have steel gates which would hold em for AGES.\r\n\r\nMy plan from there is to climb onto the roof. I head to the old shed which is also in the backyard and get the ladder, then i get all my weapons, supplies and dog up on the roof. If for whatever reason the ladder isn't anywhere in the backyard i would have to carry some weapons, and supplies and climb onto a certain tree and then jump onto the roof, leaving my dog to sadly die.\r\n\r\nSoon after my friends and there familys would be arriving, they would have to fight threw the many zombies guarding the gate to get to my backyard. [i]If i'm lucky[/i] maybe 3 out of the 12 [i]might[/i] make it. \r\n     \r\nThere i stay for the rest of the night, keeping quiet as to not attract any zombies. Oh and i also kick off the ladder so there is no direct access on the roof :)\r\n                           [b]DAY 2 - 5[/b]\r\nI stay on the roof for as many days as possible until a rescue patrol comes or i run out of supplies.\r\n                             [b] DAY 6[/b]\r\nThen  me, my friends (if they made it), my dog (if i had the ladder to carry him up) and my cat (she could of climbed on the tree and onto the roof with us, but that's highly unlikely) abandon our location due to lack of food or water... we leave early, about 6:30am. [i]You don't want to leave on the first few hours as the traffic will be packed and there will be so many people panicing that you will be driven to panic [/i]\r\n\r\nWe then get on my family bikes, there are 6 of em. If there are more then 6 of us on the roof we tell them we'll be back. I attach my dogs leash on my bike so he doesn't wander off. Or if there are more then 6 of us on the roof those people could look after my dog.\r\nThen we head to our evac point, our local Army Fort. 14km away.\r\n\r\nIf people are there then great, we've made it and we tell a helicopter to pick up other surviors waiting on my roof. If the army fort has been overun we grab what guns we can get and move to our back-up evac point, my farm. We get in a Army Jeep and drive there. Picking up the surviors on the roof on the way, and carrying our bikes in the back. \r\n\r\n[img]http://www.ebzr.be/assets/images/WWII_Army_Jeep.jpg[/img]\r\n\r\nAfter about a 3 1/2 hour drive we're about 12km away from my farm, so we abandon the jeep and get back on our bike in case a pack of zombies heard the jeep and followed it... if we drove the jeep straight to the farm they would know exactly where we are. \r\nIf we have more then 6 surviors, those who are the bravest would have to walk 12km. The others will ride on the bikes.\r\n \r\nWell now that i have made it to my farm with other surviors ( or not ) i grab my dads hunting rifle ( and axe ) that he bought to shoot some fox or something. If any of my family members were alive they would come to the farm.\r\n\r\nby now it's starting to get a bit dark, We barricade the farmhouses doors and windows with planks of wood. The farmhouse is surrounded by an electric fence, the only thing that isn't electric is the gate. If we know zombies are coming we put the electric fence on full voltage to stun the zombies if they can be stunned. We reinforce the gate by simply pushing the tractor against it. \r\n\r\n                        [b]DAY 7[/b]\r\nWe now have a great mini-fort where we grow our food... if things are looking bad we loot the neighbors farm, across the road, i defintley know he's got a shotgun and he could be alive. We raid as a group. If things are still looking bad we loot the nearest town, 28km away, we also have a holiday home in that town with the looting highlights being: An Axe, Laptop and an Ipod Touch. So we loot our holiday house unless it has already been looted by other looters.\r\n\r\nThe laptop will give us communication as it has a very exspensive internet connection... it will also be used to recharge the Ipod Touch which will be our main source of entertainment )\r\n[b]\r\n                          END[/b]\r\n\r\nSo there you have it. My Zombie Survival plan. I have a handful a effective meele weapons, 3 or more guns (depends if we found any at the army fort), a town to loot regularly (although it is dangerous), an orchard to grow food, decent defensives, and a survior group:  My dog,My cat, Friends, Family, and Friends Family \r\n(unless for whatever reason they didn't make it)\r\n\r\nNow i hope this get me's in The Zombie Survival Club but if not, tell me how my plan could be better!

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TrayDogenzaka

386 posts

Nomad

Posted April 26, '10 2:32am UTC

On the topic of shotguns, is anything other then a .12 gauge good? Such as a 16 gauge, or 20 guage even?

It all depends on how the guns are made. What shotgun you're using, how long the barrel, how much of a choke it has, what kind of shells/slugs. A 12 gauge with almost no choke and a short barrel would be good up close, but a 20, and sometimes a 28 gauge would be better if it had full choke, a 30 inch barrel, and even better if you're using slugs instead of #00, #4, buckshot, etc.

For those who don't know:
A portion of a shotgun's barrel is "choked", which means it's smaller than the rest to reduce spread. Full choke would mean it's very small, no choke would mean there's very little, and it's an almost open area. The less choke, the more spread.
The longer the barrel, obviously the more accurate. Sawn-off shotguns have short barrels so they spread massively, thus they're devistating up close, but a 30 inch barrel would be good up to 50-100 yards.
And I think most people know about the shells. The lower the number (#6, #4, #0, #00) the larger the pellets, and thus the less are inside. #9 shells can hold hundreds of pellets, while #00 (buckshot) would only hold 10 or so, not really sure. And then there's slugs, which is pretty much just a chunk of lead you shoot out of a shotgun. Slugs would be the most accurate, followed by buckshot, and so on.

If you can find a 30 inch 12 gauge shotgun and use buckshot or slugs with it, that thing would be hella accurate and I think based on the information I provided everyone would agree that it would be a fairly decent, if not good weapon.

Site:
http://askville.amazon.com/DIFFERENCE-12-16-20-GAUGE-SHELLS/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=13384204

[quote]On the topic of shotguns, is anything other then a .12 gauge good? Such as a 16 gauge, or 20 guage even?[/quote]\r\n\r\nIt all depends on how the guns are made. What shotgun you're using, how long the barrel, how much of a choke it has, what kind of shells/slugs. A 12 gauge with almost no choke and a short barrel would be good up close, but a 20, and sometimes a 28 gauge would be better if it had full choke, a 30 inch barrel, and even better if you're using slugs instead of #00, #4, buckshot, etc. \r\n\r\nFor those who don't know:\r\nA portion of a shotgun's barrel is "choked", which means it's smaller than the rest to reduce spread. Full choke would mean it's very small, no choke would mean there's very little, and it's an almost open area. The less choke, the more spread.\r\nThe longer the barrel, obviously the more accurate. Sawn-off shotguns have short barrels so they spread massively, thus they're devistating up close, but a 30 inch barrel would be good up to 50-100 yards.\r\nAnd I think most people know about the shells. The lower the number (#6, #4, #0, #00) the larger the pellets, and thus the less are inside. #9 shells can hold hundreds of pellets, while #00 (buckshot) would only hold 10 or so, not really sure. And then there's slugs, which is pretty much just a chunk of lead you shoot out of a shotgun. Slugs would be the most accurate, followed by buckshot, and so on.\r\n\r\nIf you can find a 30 inch 12 gauge shotgun and use buckshot or slugs with it, that thing would be hella accurate and I think based on the information I provided everyone would agree that it would be a fairly decent, if not good weapon. \r\n\r\nSite:\r\nhttp://askville.amazon.com/DIFFERENCE-12-16-20-GAUGE-SHELLS/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=13384204

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TrayDogenzaka

386 posts

Nomad

Posted April 26, '10 3:03am UTC

Really sorry for the double post, but I have to leave for the night and I wanted everyone to see this.

If you live in or near St. Cloud (I think( Minnesota, and you own a gun of any kind (and you're interested in training your zombie skills), then you should check this out! It's a zombie fun shoot. Zombie themed fun shoot with multiple events for all kinda of guns.
House clearing for shotguns
Open area shooting for pistols, rifles, and the like
Scenario forest guard duty for shotguns
Headshot testing area for rifles
And even a skill event where you have to get through a series of locks to get to the cure!

I hope somebody is able to go and tell me how it is, because this seems pretty epic to me! Here's the link to the info.

http://www.undeadreport.com/2010/04/anti-zombie-outbreak-omega-training-and-live-fire-shoot-in-minnesota/#more-804

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