ForumsWEPRGay Marriage-Should it be Legal or not?

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turret
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I personally think that it should be legal cause it doesnt hurt anybody and everyone has the right to marry who they love.

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nevetsthereaper
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um, some gays have multiple partners, not all of them.

RugRat
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My argument is if marriage is between two people who love eachother homosexuals can't marry because being gay is not about love it's about lust.The average gay person has hundreds of relationships. They dont love eachother they just want to have sex with eachother.But of course marriage isn't about love itself it's a man and a woman who love eachother so homosexuals don't fit eather catagory'


lolwut?
Freakenstein
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They dont love eachother they just want to have sex with each other


Excuse me!? How dare you!

But of course marriage isn't about love itself it's a man and a woman who love eachother so homosexuals don't fit eather catagory


[quote=A Random Dictionary]the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision of two people to live as a married couple, including the accompanying social festivities[/quote]

As you can see, NO, it does not matter whether it is a man or a woman or with both of one gender to be called a marriage.

And yes, homosexuals are capable of loving. They are in fact human after all.
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Personally, I really do not have a problem with it. I view it as a way of life and my only concerns are: As long as they don't try to do anything to me than I don't care.

If that's there way of life than so be it. You guys can't just curse their way of life because some of them have multiple partners and all, because so do heterosexual people as well.

Freakenstein
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Sorry about that smoke I made. I had to vent it out.

There are a lot of legal documents involved and there are still loop-holes and problems with surrogacy. Cases where the surrogate mother takes it to court to try to keep the child. People will pay Hundreds of thousands of dollars to a surrogate.

Just on the same thought, women can sell their eggs for a sizable pay check! Something like $2000 each time they do it. Which is obviously once a month.


Really? I would have never guessed! That is quite...amazing. I'm not sure what to say to this XD
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My argument is if marriage is between two people who love eachother homosexuals can't marry because being gay is not about love it's about lust.The average gay person has hundreds of relationships. They dont love eachother they just want to have sex with eachother.But of course marriage isn't about love itself it's a man and a woman who love eachother so homosexuals don't fit eather catagory'


1. I know a homosexual couple that don't actually have sexual intercourse - they kiss, hold hands and spend all of their time together as a couple. This acts as proof that they love each other and negates your stupendously generalized and bigoted viewpoint.
2. Where is your proof backing up this assertion about 'the average gay person' - Anyone can pull figures outta their ass - EG - 'On average 9 out of 10 people have slept with holt24's mom'. You see, that has no proof to back it up and is quite offensive - like your own example.
3. Since when did was marriage explicitly defined as the union of one man and one woman? Quite frankly, people have had several wives at the same time for most of the history of marriage and that's just one aspect of it - comparing marriage a few millenia ago and marriage today - they're completely different. What you accept as the norm for who/when/how/why people get married would be completely alien to people a handful of centuries ago and in another handful of centuries the norm will have changed again.
DarthLama
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I wonder if holt24 is either a succesful troll or a failed american 15 year-old who fits a stereotype.

Avorne
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Can't he be both of those? America is pretty much trollolololol central.

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I think this is a great video to contribute to this conversation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKfQ4LZ_svo

In my opinion, marriage shouldn't be based solely on religion, it's more of a right of passage or soemthing similar when you reach a certain age and meet that certain someone.

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But of course marriage isn't about love itself it's a man and a woman who love eachother so homosexuals don't fit eather catagory'


Yes we need to stick to our traditional ways of marriage where women are treated as little more then property.
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My argument is if marriage is between two people who love eachother homosexuals can't marry because being gay is not about love it's about lust.The average gay person has hundreds of relationships. They dont love eachother they just want to have sex with eachother.But of course marriage isn't about love itself it's a man and a woman who love eachother so homosexuals don't fit eather catagory'

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No...gay people feel what they perceive as love, just like straight people feel what they perceive as love. If you're going to be technical about this, love is a chemical reaction in the brain for everyone. I agree that marriage is about love, but homosexuals feel love for their partners just like everyone else.
The average gay person has hundreds of relationships? Says who? Where's your proof? That's bs. And again, if you're going to be technical, love is lust for everyone, it's a chemical reaction and it's instinctual.
And if you're going to make the "tradition" argument, when marriage was created it wasn't about men and women marrying each other because they're in love, it was about trading womens' lives in matrimony as a bargaining chip. And homosexuals do love each other, just as much as heterosexuals, so that argument is void.
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i feel that this is awkward

Xzeno
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If you're going to be technical about this, love is a chemical reaction in the brain for everyone.
This is relevant because...?

And again, if you're going to be technical, love is lust for everyone, it's a chemical reaction and it's instinctual.
If you're going to be technical about it, love and lust are different emotions.

I don't have anything on topic to say, but that's how it goes sometimes.
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i agree

MageGrayWolf
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This is relevant because...?


Hypermnestra was pointing out that homosexuals are capable of love. If the argument is that love is a part of marriage then this would e relevant.

Both males and females are capable of love, so there is no reason a male with a female disposition or a female with a male disposition should not be able to be in love.

If you're going to be technical about it, love and lust are different emotions.


Since we want to get technical about it.

Romantic love, Dr Fisher explained in a lecture at the 2004 American Psychiatric Associationâs annual meeting, is not an emotion. Rather, itâs "a motivation system, itâs a drive, itâs part of the reward system of the brain." Itâs a need that compels the lover to seek a specific mating partner. Then the brain links this drive to all kinds of specific emotions depending on how the relationship is going. All the while, she went on to say, the prefrontal cortex is assembling data, putting information into patterns, making strategies, and monitoring the progress toward "lifeâs greatest prize."


Dr Fisher divides love into three categories involving different brain systems: 1) Lust (the craving for sexual gratification), driven by androgens and estrogens; 2) Attraction (or romantic or passionate love, characterized by euphoria when things are going well, terrible mood swings when theyâre not, focused attention, obsessive thinking, and intense craving for the individual), driven by high dopamine and norepinephrine levels and low serotonin; and 3) Attachment (the sense of calm, peace, and stability one feels with a long-term partner) driven by the hormones oxytocin and vasopressin.

http://www.mcmanweb.com/love_lust.html

So basically love is just a driving mechanism with lust just being one part of it.
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