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Posted Oct 5, '10 at 9:28pm

cormyn

cormyn

2,964 posts

Knight

In a nutshell, we don't know.

That should clear up everyone's questions, right? Good ...

As a development team and as a company, we know that the forums are extremely important to some of you, and we know that some of you have put a lot (!!!!) of effort into building up the community here, especially those who have written the more creative poetic stuff. C'mon, how many of you have > 5,000 posts, raise your hands. That amount of effort is *staggering*. Seriously, I think the highest post count I've seen was ~8400? Over 2.5 years, that'd be like 10 posts EVERY DAY since AG2 launched.

The effort of migrating that much data from AG2 to AG3 is almost as staggering, since the guy who wrote the AG2 forum software didn't make it terribly efficient, and the way we're linking accounts, etc., between the two systems might cause problems. Trying to migrate it to AG3 will be a pretty big job, and it will probably fall in my lap since I'm sorta the database guru around here, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's up to me whether I want to do it or not. If Dan says do it, I do it.

Whether we start over, and wipe everything, and build a new forum engine, or implement someone else's forum software, remains to be discussed internally because it's not a critical feature for us yet. That doesn't mean it's not important to us, it just means we have to get core features working like, y'know, logging in.

Will we migrate old posts into the new forum software? It depends whether we can find an easy way to make the old forum data compatible. Nothing's *impossible* but it's also not practical for us to spend development time (read: dollars) for us to spend a big amount of effort trying to sort stuff out so it's all perfect and pristine.

If we start over with forum posts, will we archive the old forums? Again, nothing's impossible, but I can't answer that right now.

What will happen to your armor points for forum posts? Well, since armor points are also up in the air regarding the same sort of "wipe vs migrate" discussions, I can't answer that question right now either.

Please direct people asking about the future of AG2 forums to this thread if they start asking questions in other forums/threads. I'll post updates to this thread as I have more information.

 

Posted Nov 3, '10 at 12:13am

cormyn

cormyn

2,964 posts

Knight

Update, one month later:

Still no word on what we're doing with the forums. Migrating the forums to AG3 may be easy, but how we manage the forums, etc., needs to change from what we run right now. We're still not sure if we're going to rebuild it from scratch, or use some third-party software. Hopefully we'll have some answers this month.

 

Posted Feb 8, '11 at 4:25pm

cormyn

cormyn

2,964 posts

Knight

Update, several months later:

We probably won't have forums at launch, but it will be one of the highest priorities once we *are* launched. We're trying to find a 3rd party forum engine/system that will be compatible with what we already have in place as far as infrastructure, but something we can easily adapt for things like using our own authentication system, etc. Sometimes, modifying someone else's code to fit your own system can take as long, or longer, than just writing the code yourself... so we'll see.

 

Posted Feb 21, '11 at 7:57pm

cormyn

cormyn

2,964 posts

Knight

To clarify, we won't have fully integrated forums in AG3 upon launch, but we *will* have forums of some kind.

Until we can get a new forum engine running for AG3, we're evaluating how to keep these AG2 forums alive.

We're currently leaning towards an off-the-shelf third party solution that we can modify to fit our needs, and then see about importing old messages. When this happens, we'll give everyone lots of notice, because we may need to shut down this forum engine to give us time to move messages to the new system.

 

Posted Apr 6, '11 at 8:45pm

cormyn

cormyn

2,964 posts

Knight

Okay, since we seem to have a LOT of repeated threads popping up asking the same questions over and over, please post any new discussion regarding forums, features, wants, likes/dislikes in here.

Keep it on topic. I need to be able to summarize this stuff later for the web development team, and off-topic posts will be deleted without warning to make my life easier later.

 

Posted Apr 6, '11 at 10:45pm

Kevin4762

Kevin4762

2,534 posts

Okay, so get vBulletin.

End of story.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/avatar_a59d7ef3ef31_128.png

 

Posted Apr 7, '11 at 12:37am

master565

master565

4,288 posts

Seriously, I think the highest post count I've seen was ~8400?


firetail_madness has 20000...

the guy who wrote the AG2 forum software didn't make it terribly efficient


Who wrote it and does he still work for you?
 

Posted Apr 7, '11 at 4:03am

Efan

Efan

3,164 posts

I believe that the fact that our forums are set out neatly and structured simply is what sets this community apart from other gameing sites.

However I think a good idea would be to change the way we post pictures and links. If we could get it to be click, copy picture, paste it into a box would be wonderful.

I would also add a forum subsection called the lounge with no ap/karma/whatever because we all saw how well the "currently about" thread did. If that was a place for social fun besides user comments it would be great. Maybe have it as a link to a big thread and not little seperate threads?

As for things like colours and decotr, i'd keep it white. It just gives the forums a more simple look to me and I think new comers would appreciate that.

The reason simplicity is good for these forums is because there is less chance of someone breaking the rules.

 

Posted Apr 7, '11 at 4:10am

gaboloth

gaboloth

1,629 posts

I would also add a forum subsection called the lounge with no ap/karma/whatever because we all saw how well the "currently about" thread did.

That. Or add a chat system. You can't get mad when people use threads as chat rooms, and not give any way to do it legally.
 

Posted Apr 7, '11 at 12:55pm

cormyn

cormyn

2,964 posts

Knight

does he still work for you?


No, he was a contractor back in the day before Larry was even hired.

If we could get it to be click, copy picture, paste it into a box would be wonderful.


No, we won't host your images/art/swf/music etc on our systems -- too many potential licensing issues. Your art/audio must always be hosted elsewhere. You'll always have the ability to hotlink to them using an 'img' tag or something similar, but we will not be providing any sort of upload service.

I would also add a forum subsection called the lounge with no ap/karma/whatever


Yes, we'll probably continue that practice since we currently have two forums where no AP is given. The Forum Games has been a big hit.

f that was a place for social fun besides user comments it would be great. Maybe have it as a link to a big thread and not little seperate threads?


Need you to describe this a little more, I don't understand the idea.

As for things like colours and decotr, i'd keep it white.


Aesthetics are something we're certainly open to considering.

Or add a chat system.


This is already in consideration.
 
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