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Before reading this thread, I would suggest reading [urlhttp://armorgames.com/community/thread/6980543/an-introduction-to-logic]An Introduction to Logic[/url] by
Moegreche. Thanks.
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First, we need to understand justs what Rhetoric is. Heres a quick definition:

Rhetoric: [Noun] The usage of language to please or persuade.

Rhetoric, delivered by Rhetorical Devices, is the fleeting impressions or influences that a word, or group of words, has on a person. The use of such devices' influence may occur beneath the very level of conciousness. The Positive or Negative impressions made by Rhetorical Devices, while they may seem trivial, can have powerful and lasting effects.

Now that we understand what Rhetoric, and Rhetorical Devices are, lets move on to the vehicals that will deliver your Rhetoric.
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-----Euphemisms and Dysphemisms-----

Euphemisms and Dysphemisms are words or phrases that are substituted for other words or phrases to put what is being discussed in a more positive or negative light.

Euphemisms put a more positive light on a word or phrase, while a Dysphemism puts a more negative light on a word.

'She has passed away' is a Euphemism of 'She has died'. Alternately, 'She has died' is a Dysphemism of 'She has passed away'.

-----Rhetorical Comparisons-----

A Rhetorical Comparison is a way of speaking that departs positive or negative view froma fair or neutral position. Here, the problem is content, not form:

"The American Revolutionaries used tactics similar to those of the VietCong" This statement, depending on your own views, can do one of two things. Either it cast the 'American Revolutionaries' in a negative light, by comparing them with the 'VietCong', or it puts the 'VietCong' in a positive light by comparing them to the 'American Revolutionaries'.

"Religion - the opiate of the people" This definition appears to come froma fair, or neutral, stance, but it actually sheds Religion in a negative light. An opiate refers to opium, or any thing derived from opium. Opium is a drug, and this definition is suggestion that Religion 'drugs' a person, and clouds and muddies their vision and mentality.

-----Sterotype-----

A Sterotype functions as an enexamined assumption behind a premise or explanatory action. When directly expressed, it takes the form of a generalization. There are many types of Sterotypes (most famously, Racial Sterotypes), but also hide in many other forms. Observe:

"All roaches carry diseases". THis statement is a generalizaion. I am making the assumption that ALL roaches carry diseases. In order for this to be true, I would have had to meet all roaches, and confirmed that they do indeed carry diseases. I have made the assumption that all roaches are 'bad', and this is a fallicious statement.

-----Innuendo-----

An Innuendo is an indirect suggestion. Ussualy an Innuendo carries a negative impression. Innuendos can also take the guise of falso praise:

"Student X? Yes, she passed the minimum requirements of the course". This is an Innuendo, specifically, an Innuendo operating under the guise of a compliment. *Technically*, this statement is a compliment. However, it is leaving you with the suggestion that the nicest thing I could say about Student X is that they passed the minimum requirements. Therefore, you will start to make *negative* assumptions about Student X, because a Dysphemism of this same statement is: "Student X? Yes, she barely passed the course".

*A great example of Innuendos are 'Thats What She Said!' jokes.

-----Loaded Question-----

A Loaded Question is a Yes or No question, or a false dilemma. In order to answer a Loaded Question, you would be required to accept a presumption, which ussualy isn't true. For example:

"Are you openly gay, or have you just kept it a secret?" In order to answer this question, you would first have to affirm the assumption that you are indeed gay, even if you are not. Professional Politicians use this all the time. The only way to defend against such is to first recoqnize it as a Loaded Question, and then reply that you will only answer fair questions. This is an expecially nasty device, if I do say so for myself.

-----Weasler-----

A Weasler is a word or phrase that deceptively weakens a claim, though it is not to be confused with Careful Qualification. Weaslers are often used in advertising:

"Save up to 30%!" The Weasler in this sentence is the words 'up to'. The sentence leaves you with the expectation that you will save 30%, though in reality, you'll probaly save less.

-----Sarcasm/Horse Laugh/Ridicule-----

Sarcasm weakens an arguments credibility by ridiculing it. Sarcasm often gives off the appearence that the user holds a higher position, or is mocking the argument. Behold:

"Our debt is only 14 trillion" The verbal stress would be on the word 'only'. This is sarcastic because its making a mockery of the US' National Debt. Most people know what Sarcasm is, and its easier to observe than explain, so I won't delve into it too much further.

-----Hyperbole-----

Hyperbole is the use of an exaggertaion to make an impression of greater importance or deviate from expectations. Often shows up in other forms, such as Slippery Slopes.

"I'm so hungry, I could eat a horse" This is a Hyperbole, because its an unreal exaggertion of just how hungry you really are. Yes, you are hungry, but you can't physically eat an entire horse.

-----Proof Surrogate-----

Proof Surrogates are assumptions or strong suggestions that give evidence that exist somewhere out of reach to support a claim. They make use of listed, but unchecked, unverified references. On the internet and in advertising, these are expecially common:

"4 out of 5 dentist agree, ACME Toothbrushes are the best!" This leaves much to be desired. For starters, which dentist, and where? These dentist could have been payed, or live in a location where ACME Toothbrushes are prefered.

"Well, according to my Mom..." Seriously? Pops up so often on the internet. You could get your Mom to say anything, and we have no idea if you're being truthful or not.
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And thats just about it for the major Rhetorical Devices. I hope this helps a lot of people out there, and makes debate in the WEPR much more lively and entertaining.

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Maverick4
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I apologize for the link fail. Heres the corrected link to Moe's thread:

An Introduction to Logic

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You metioned a 'Cafeful Qualification' under Weasler. Could you explain what that is?

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Qualification is acknowledging your opponents argument while making your own then using a counter example to prove it wrong . However, I do not know if that was the CQ, that Maverick is referring to.


Ex.

John Doe states that slavery is a abhorrent practice, yet he himself owns slaves.



It's not the best example but it does it's job.

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Maverick4 Wrote:
First, we need to understand justs what Rhetoric is. Heres a quick definition:

Rhetoric: [Noun] The usage of language to please or persuade.

Rhetoric, delivered by Rhetorical Devices, is the fleeting impressions or influences that a word, or group of words, has on a person. The use of such devices' influence may occur beneath the very level of conciousness. The Positive or Negative impressions made by Rhetorical Devices, while they may seem trivial, can have powerful and lasting effects.


First thing I discussed in the OP. Incase thats above your head though, I'll provide an easier definition.

Rhetoric is whenever you use words to persuade. There are many types of Rhetoric, and these are called Rhetorical Devices. Some of the most common are listed and defined in the OP.
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How did the Title of the thread get changed to "No a Name to C68"?

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The mods, or the admins, have been changing all the stickies so at least one word in the title is replaced by the name of a mod. NoName got WEPR, Strop got Forum games, Cenere got S&S and Zophia got the Tavern.

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Not all of them have been mods. Flash games is a tinyurl to Friday, and Walkthroughs is a series of bit.lys to maps of different kinds.

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Let's not forget John, the admin, who got his name stickied in the Programming Help section.

Flash games is a tinyurl to Friday


But when they changed it back, it messed up all the CTC stickies!
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Good information... I had always heard some of these words but never bothered to look 'em up (I knew what rhetoric meant)

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(I knew what rhetoric meant)


I assumed most people would, but I felt the need to define it anyways. Rhetoric can actually refer to several things, and we're talking about one specific form. Also, I defined it in order to remain consistent in my own usages of it. This way I would avoid a 'Fallacy of Equivocation', which would be near suicide in a sticky in the WEPR.
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i got ur tutorial,is it just educational?

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is it just educational?


no, its mandatory. you have to follow every rule in this guide or you will be banned permanently.
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its informing but there is nothing to discuss which disappoints me

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I have come to learn that in this forum here, the height of peoples' rhetoric is basically limited to them waiting for someone to post something with which they personally disagree, their throwing the noble word "logic" upon it, and their cramming their false fallacy template against it. By quoting a few lines from the previous person's post and typing a few remarks (usually sarcastic and horridly tainted with bias), this person of great logical wisdom and learned insight will "refute" what that person has said for the sole purpose of justifying their own neurotic personal beliefs.

That's the rhetoric of this forum, boys and girls. Enjoy!

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@mastaplaya

At least we aren't as bad as US politicians.

A chair as talked about in a campaign speech by any US politician, who I have yet to see actually promise anything during an election campaign. (Content by satirist Armando Iannucci):

This chair can take your weight. This chair can hold your buttocks, 15 inches in the air. This chair, this wooden chair, can support the *** of the white man or the crack of the black man, take the downward pressure of a Jewish girl's behind or the butt of a Buddhist adolescent, it can provide comfort for Muslim buns or Mormon backsides, the withered rump of an unemployed man in Nevada struggling to get his kids through high school and needful of a place to sit and think, the plump can of a single mum in Florida desperately struggling to make ends meet but who can no longer face standing, this chair, made from wood felled from the tallest redwood in Chicago, this chair, if only we believed in it, could sustain America's huddled arse.


which is the opposite of how UK politicians operate:
'We intend to provide a chair, which, over the next five-year period, will guarantee stability for anyone who sat on it.' 'We will introduce the most sweeping measures yet to ensure that all four chair legs are of exactly the same length and we will measure every leg on the chair twice a year and place those results in national chair-leg database.' 'We will stop other people coming over to use the chair before us.'

And then fail to deliver any of that.
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