it really does make sense to do something like this because well: you could have more experienced group members that have the knowhow about came creation and actionscript teaching the less experienced eager to learn group members (like me=D) then the group could benefit from having more ap from submitting games and the site could benefit from well having more games =D

I look forward to this :) I would totally join/create a group that reflects the way I think. I had experience with lots of different clan system and I think the part with the "report unfair kick"  is a good thing, would keep does abusives users away. Also there should be a way to "ban" a member from a clan for a certain amount of time without actually kicking him. Sometimes members make a mistake that needs to be punished, but kicking sound too cruel :) And one last thing, maybe a ranking system? Maybe somehow clans could get points and grow in ranking. So people can see which clan is best.

Oh and if the clans could rename the "advance member" "leader" and "member" to something that suites more their clan. Of course the functions would stay the same

I think it should be kind of like warcraft, but instead of anyone in a guild can invite ANYONE, it should be the guilds are arranged by what people like. For example, an art guild could do stuff related to art, and the guild members could submit their art.(As long as it is clean) A flash gaming guild could host different flash gaming online tournaments for the best players, seperate ones for medium players, and another one for begginers. Kind of like in the middle ages, where there were guilds, instead of unions... There should be guilds for coders, game artists, etc. There should also be some kind of multi guild compatition, to spice things up, maybe monthly contests, or something to that effect. Thats my two bits worth on the subject.

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or what you could do is have group positions like artist and coder so that the artist could draw pics for the coder who would use the art in a game =D

I get were your going at, but really.  Are these competitions imaginary?  Im still confused.

Awesome idea Freakenstein.

The clan leader(s) would be the only person to be able to invite an other clan to do a "clan battle". But I think there should be also art contests for clans to win. Of course all the contests that actually count for a real clan battle would have to be checked and approved by a mod/admin before.

There should be clan armor points (CAP) or clan points (CP) or a point system for the clans.

Every win would give like...10 points
Loses 2 points
Draw (if possible) 5 points

Then a ranking system. Like clan lvl 1,2,3,4,5,6... And the higher you get, the more clans you can recruit and there would be a little symbol beside your name or clan name to say what rank your clan is.

A win/lose ratio. Shows how many wins and loses a clan got.

Achievements. Clan related achievements.

How many art and flash game wins/loses

the more clans you can recruit

The more "members" you can recruit.

But that brings me an idea. How about, when a clan gets really high rank, could recruit clan to work under it's wing? It would be like a little nation.

Dissenting opinion. I don't like clans at all. The regimentation, the relentless pressure to be active, the tribalism, aaargh. If I wanted to be in a clan then I would be playing MMORPGs not Flash games. If clans are going to be a feature of AG3 then please let them be optional.

Hey guys, quick note: these are GREAT ideas, keep them coming. I'm grabbing quotes out of message bits as I go here, so in no particular order, here are some responses:

If clans are going to be a feature of AG3 then please let them be optional.

Absolutely, you can choose not to be in any groups of any kind if that's your desire. We'll probably also give you a privacy setting to ignore any group invitations that you get sent.

Maybe also there could be a thing like a clan page. Maybe in this "clan wall"

Yes, that's the idea, we'd have a url like "armorgames.com/group/GhostClan" or something...

Clan Request? This is like in facebook when you send a friend request. The request is instantly sent to the Leader or co-leader's home page and can either be accepted or ignored.

Yes, exactly. I suppose we could make groups of various invitation levels, like:
- totally open, anyone can join as they want
- request to join, anyone can send a message to the group asking to join
- invite only, general users cannot request to join, only the leaders of the group can issue invitations to join

When you create you clan though you will have a bow of who get what power. So you could scroll down to members and check off comments. Scroll to co-leader and check off boot member, boost members ect. This allows full customizing for your clans ranks

Yeah, I picture something similar to the AG3 privacy settings, where you have a rank, and a list of checkboxes for what that rank is allowed to do.

I'm thinking of a way how leaders of different factions can manually challenge each other to a gaming tournament.

I like the tournament idea, but there are limitations to what we can build into the site from a programming standpoint. Some of that stuff might require users to use a third-party tournament organizer or something to get started.

You simply have to invite another clan to a contest, select a game to play, and the winning clan gets the announcement posted on their page! In between that, however, is the technical part. It's the function where the AGi recognizes the scores the members gained and then decides which clan wins from there. Every game is different, of course, so the conditions for winning have to be different.

In the future, perhaps. I think the devs here will like the idea. The only problem would be a way to filter users who could potentially be in both groups (unless the two groups were invite only or something)... or have a way to show users who were in both groups, or just disqualify the user's scores when tabulating everything...

giving the members the option to "report unfair kick", bringing up a textbox of some sort and filling the box with reasons why they think they were unfairly removed.

Nah, if you get kicked, you get kicked. If you want to appeal, you can request to join again, etc. We'd probably have to set up a 'block' function so users can be blocked from joining a group after getting kicked.

"ban" a member from a clan for a certain amount of time without actually kicking him.

Can't see a real practical use for this. I could see having a "banned user" rank, who doesn't get to do anything like post group status messages or something, and the leader can just reassign the user to that rank or something.

and the guild members could submit their art.(As long as it is clean) A flash gaming guild could host different flash gaming online tournaments for the best players,

No, the purpose of the groups will be more about common interests and games, but won't be able to post artwork, etc.. We're planning a "showcase" area of the site for people that want feedback on their art/game ideas, etc.

There should be clan armor points (CAP) or clan points (CP) or a point system for the clans.

I doubt we'll do this. We'll probably just come up with a way to cumulatively sum up the scores of the individual players to give the group/clan a rank.

I think there should be also art contests for clans to win.

Again, I think this is where third-party software would probably be required, because there's no real judging authority like we could build into the site/agi for competing on a particular game.