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MrDayCee
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A lot of people have been asking me when the new edition of the 'CRBWC' would finally start (and I'm sorry it took me so long...), but I wanted to make the second edition even better and more fun than the first one!
(In case you wonder what the first one looked like: this is the 'CRBWC 2010'.)

After hours of fun (and stress!) in figuring out the new CRBWC schematics, the gathering of info on the participating bands and fabricating the additional pictures to it all, I'm proud of the final outcome and so, without further delay, let's kick off the 2011 edition of the


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Now, some changes have been made to the second edition of this competition, so reading the rules and guidelines is something everyone needs to do, even the voters from last year's edition are advised to...


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The format of this World Cup for Classical Rock Bands is based upon the organisation schematics of the Soccer World Cup. It has the same rules as the Soccer World Cup in terms of competitors proceeding through it, but it will follow a few rules of its own too.
Below is a short guide to elaborate the >binding rules< for this competition:


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-The 'CRBWC' consist of a total of 24 rounds being presented one at a time.
-Each round will be open for voting for a maximum of 2 weeks or untill a band reaches the points limit.


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-Each user of ArmorGames who wants to give a vote has the possibility to vote only once per round.
-All votes given by users are obligated to consist of an elaborated reasoning as to 'why' you choose these two bands. Votes lacking a proper elaborated reasoning, for example: "I like them" or "They rule", will not be counted. Elaborate on why you like them and talk about them, that's the main goal of this competition!
-Different to last year's edition, this time each vote in the group stage of this competition will consist of naming a "First choice" with with a value of 3 points and a "Second choice" with a value of 1 point.
-You only get to vote for two bands in a group. NO double voting for a single band and/or NO voting for more than two bands per group. No exceptions will be made in this matter.
-If two bands reach the limit of 30 points at the same time, the band with the most "First choices" will be declared as the winner of that round.
-The rule explained above, also applies if two bands reach a similar point count for second place at the same time in the 'Group Stage'.
-If, for any reason, two bands reach the limit of 30 points simultaniously and both have an equal amount of first and second choices, the band getting it's 'winning vote' first will be declared the winner.
-Further rounds after the group stage will have a 1 point count for each vote given and an according 10 points limit. Rules for declaring a winner will be applied according to the group stage rules.
-No discussions about the ruling on the outcome of a round are allowed.


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# THE GROUP STAGE:
-This stage will behold 8 different groups (A to H) consisting of 7 Classical Rock Bands to choose from.
-After closure, both the 'group winner' and the 'runner up' band will proceed to the knockout stage.
-All other remaining bands are eliminated from the competition.

THE KNOCKOUT STAGE:
-After completing the Group stage, the 'group winner' of the first group will be up against the 'runner up' of the second group. The 'group winner' of the second group will be up against the 'runner up' of the first group. This schedule will be followed for the rest of the groups, to clarify:
#1 Group A vs. #2 Group B (Winning band is called 'Winner I'
#1 Group B vs. #2 Group A (Winning band is called 'Winner II'
#1 Group C vs. #2 Group D (Winning band is called 'Winner III'
#1 Group D vs. #2 Group C (Winning band is called 'Winner IV'
#1 Group E vs. #2 Group F (Winning band is called 'Winner V'
#1 Group F vs. #2 Group E (Winning band is called 'Winner VI'
#1 Group G vs. #2 Group H (Winning band is called 'Winner VII'
#1 Group H vs. #2 Group G (Winning band is called 'Winner VIII'

THE 1/4 FINALS:
-The next stage, the 1/4 finals, will be held in this order:
# Winner I vs. Winner V
# Winner II vs. Winner VI
# Winner III vs. Winner VII
# Winner IV vs. Winner VIII

THE SEMI FINALS:
-The semi finals will be held in the order of:
# Winner I/V vs. Winner II/VI
# Winner III/VII vs. Winner IV/VIII

THE 'SHADOW FINAL':
-A number three and four is decided in a match between both 'losing' bands from the semi finals.
-Ranking of third and fourth place in this Final is decided upon the band that reaches the 10 points limit first.

THE FINAL MATCH:
-The Final match is held between both winning bands from the semi finals.
-When one of the bands in the Final reaches the limit of 10 points first, that band is declared the winner of the competition and is crowned The 'CRBWC' Champion 2011.
-The remaining band is ranked #2 in this competition.


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-There will be NO playoffs held in this competition.
-You don't get to complain when 'your band' is eliminated from the competition. "Take the pain..."
-Swearing and obscene language is not tolerated. Always respect the opinion(s) of the other users participating in this thread, even if you disagree with their reasoning.
-If any situation should occur that is not explained and/or guided by the thread's rules, the 'Armor Games Community Forum Rules and Regulations' and the 'Popular Media Rules ("Read these rules or else...&quot' apply and are to be followed for this 'Classic Rock Bands World Cup'. They will be referred to when needed.
You can find them here:
Armor Games Community Forum Rules and Regulations
Popular Media Rules ("Read these rules, or else...&quot

Since this year's 'CRBWC' competition has a little more stuff to work with, I will start off as the sole Moderator for it, but there might be other moderators assigned over time if/when I see fit. Don't ask me for an assignment, since I will only assign people I know to have the same devotion to this competition and they will be revealed when the time comes, ok?

And last, but certainly not least... take heed:
!!! OFFICIAL AG ADMINISTRATORS AND MODERATORS WILL ALWAYS HAVE A BINDING WORD !!!
So, whenever an AG administrator or moderator visits this thread and decides to alter/delete a user's post or take action on an item or discussion, listen and obide to them as you would throughout the rest of the ArmorGames website.

I hope the AG users will like and participate in this 'Classic Rock Bands World Cup'!
So my main advice to all participants is to simply... ENJOY!!!

Now... enough with the talk... shove everything aside and...

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AvengedSevenfold11
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#1 = The Who, they really influenced so many rock bands, theyve got great songs,awsome singer and awsome guitarist and ya, that pretty much sums up The Who though I wouldve put them in group 1

#2 = Led Zeppelin Like the who, extremely influencial, really, and i meen really good guitarist, and pretty good songs.

Slash is actually good, now im pretty shure delossantosj doesnt play guitar, but i do, and im telling you he isnt a legend for nothing! Havent you listened to november rain!!!

and also smoke on water is, in no way the best guitar riff!! i can think of many more than 100 other songs that beat it! all it is, is the easiest guitar riff.

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im not jimmy page. dude i could list WELL over 50 guitarists in the rock genre alone that are better then slash in every way, let along all genre


wlell list them then.
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i may not be a guitar player, but i am a musician and i know what im talking about.

before i list these guitarists i shall list the criteria: originality, creativity, influence, and skill(technique and versatillity)

in no particular order, this is 50 guitarists better then slash based on the above criteria

1 jimmy hendrix
2 jimmy page
3 jeff beck
4 joe satriani
5 eric clapton
6 steve morse
7 tony iommi
8 richie blackmore
9 frank zappa
10 john petrucci
11 chuck berry
12 scotty moore
13 frank zappa
14 carlos santana
15 david gilmour
16 robert fripp
17 duanne allman
18 steve cropper
19 jeff hanneman
20 steve howe
21 alex lifeson
22 jan akkerman
23 danny gatton
24 shawn lane
25 mark knopfler
26 eric johnson
27 steve hackett
28 phil keaggy
29 pete townshed
30 yngwie malmsteen
31 randy rhoads
32 kerry king
33 uli john roth
34 jimmy nolen
35 jerry garcia
36 tommy bolin
37 john mclaughlin
38 hank marvin
39 bo diddley
40 hank marvin
41 buckethead
42 link wray
43 lonnie mack
44 guthrie govan
45 curtis mayfeild
46 gary moore
47 michael schenker
48 brian may
49 paul gilbert
50 marty friedman
51 Orion


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First vote is to Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd is what you get when you throw Jesus in the blender, freeze the juice, and pour it onto a piece of sheet music. Almost all of their albums have been awesome and they've explored a lot of interesting territory.

Second is Led Zeppelin. They were extraordinarily influential, creative, and made a huge splash when they were around. They're iconic in almost every way.

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Owned


Yeah,right.Some of those guys I've never heard of and pretty much all the others were at least three times worse than SLASH.

List that can have a good argument against SLASH:
Jimi Hendrix
Jimmy Page(not better)
Jeff Beck
Tony Iommi
Frank Zappa
Steve Morse
Carlos Santana

I'm not saying any of those are better,but you can make an argument for them.

Better than SLASH:
Jimi Hendrix
Carlos Santana

Top 5:
5.Frank Zappa
4.Jimmy Page
3.SLASH
2.Carlos Santana
1. JIMI HENDRIX!!!
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Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck not on that list? WTF?

And @ Delos... Is Oreo really...?

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Yeah,right.Some of those guys I've never heard of and pretty much all the others were at least three times worse than SLASH.


you bassically just claimed that you are musically ignorant, thanks for confirming what we already knew. i bet you didnt even read the criteria.


Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck not on that list? WTF?


they were on my list :]

And @ Delos... Is Oreo really...?


naw, they told me to put his name down on CT for the lulz
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Nice discussion going on about who-beats-who in the 'all time guitar player listing' there... =)
Just my addition to the list since you didn't put them on it delos... I mean... wtf?! What about 'Eddie Van Halen', 'Adje Vandenberg' and 'Steve Vai'... they should be on the list IMHO!

Anyway, back to the topic here... NICE!! A lot of votes came in and all of them had a proper reasoning! *rubs eyes and stares at screen again* ...yes, I did see it correctly! GREAT JOB PEOPLE!! =D

So, for a first round up in this group, I'm glad to see so many different bands being this close in the race for the win in this battle, excellent! A first score count shows:
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# Votes counted for group E : #

Pink Floyd____: 9 (+3+3+3)
Led Zeppelin__: 8 (+3+1+1+1+1+1)
The Who_______: 7 (+1+3+3)
Deep Purple___: 3 (+3)
Cream_________: 1 (+1)
Marillion_____: 0 (-)
The Kinks_____: 0 (-)
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It's looking GREAT so far people! Keep them well reasoned votes coming in and make this battle an exciting one! Tell all your friends who like/love/eat/breathe/live rock music and make them vote in this competition! The more, the merrier...

Keep it up and VOTE!!! Two thumbs up so far! b_(^-^)_d

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Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck not on that list? WTF?


Jeff Beck would definitely by number six.If you read the whole thing you would see.Eric Clapton would be number nine or ten.I just didn't like him that much.

you bassically just claimed that you are musically ignorant, thanks for confirming what we already knew. i bet you didnt even read the criteria.


There was three people there I've never heard of.List:

Lonnie Mack,looked him up,not a big country fan,and from the 50's and I couldn't care less about those two topics.

Michael Schenker,looked him up,my dad tells me a lot about music when he was a teenager,I listen to it,never gave me this guy.

Guthrie Govan,looked him up,not the kind of bans I listen to,and when I did,I didn't like it at all.

Happy del?You have your opinion and I have mine.You may know more music than me,but it seems like you don't even think SLASH is good.At least I can realize Jimmy Page is a great guitarist.
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Slash is overrated

Creedence Clearwater Revival should be on this list, they contributed so much to music and had a great southern sound

Jefferson Airplane is really good classic rock as well

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^wish i read the first page in the thread first
disregard that

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Jeff Beck would definitely by number six.If you read the whole thing you would see.Eric Clapton would be number nine or ten.I just didn't like him that much.


what sort of criteria are you even using for your joke of a list?

Lonnie Mack,looked him up,not a big country fan,and from the 50's and I couldn't care less about those two topics.


ok so your also a **** ton of biased too then. when making a list and trying to get a respected oppinion, you have to remove most bias. have an appreciation for other peoples work. i HATE HATE HATE slipknot, but i can appreciate them and what they have done for the overall industry. corey taylor is a legend.

Guthrie Govan,looked him up,not the kind of bans I listen to,and when I did,I didn't like it at all.


wether you like the music or not is irrelevent. i dont mind you saying slash is your favorite. thats all fine and i respect slash, i in fact, like him as a person. he strikes me as a very humble guy. and dude i would seriously bet you money that slash himself would say that jimmy page is a better guitarist then him. slash is an amazing guitarist. he has an amazing stage presence with him wherever he goes and thats an amazing thing. but saying he is the greatest is wrong. cause hes not. not through technical skill, not through influence, not through creativity or originallity. not to say he doesnt have any. but when it comes to those factors, people like jimmy page, santana, jimi hendrix, eric clapton, and jeff beck slash cant touch
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I never said SLASH was the best.If you look at my list,I have Hendrix and Santana ahead of him.Also for the bias,if you don't like Lonnie Mack,even though he's done a lot,so has SLASH and SLASH is a better guitarist.I still think,SLASH is better than Clapton,Beck,and Page.You can't change that.Also for del,not everything you think in music is right.You have to realize that.

Now I'm not speaking of this anymore,because it's overblown and like death4,it's gotten way to off topic.

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woah there buddy

anyway id vote for Deep Purple because not only do i like water, but i like smoke too.

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I still think,SLASH is better than Clapton,Beck,and Page.You can't change that.Also for del,not everything you think in music is right.You have to realize that.


slash himself would call those guys better guitarists then him. hes a very humble guy.

You can't change that.Also for del,not everything you think in music is right.You have to realize that.


ill bring really really good guitarists in here to tell you that you are seriously over rating slash. do you want that?
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