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cormyn
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Hey everyone,

Here's a sticky thread to put achievement-based ideas and discussion.

Our plan is to engage game developers to send us periodic information about your game play, such as how many castles you've toppled in Crush the Castle, or how many times your dinosaur jumped in Treadmillasaurus Rex, etc. and that these pieces of information would accumulate to award you 'achievements' on AG3.

We're actively designing and building the achievement system right now, so as we have information, we'll share it here, but we're welcome to listen to ideas and feedback along the way.

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ArmorL3gend
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I imagine they'll be somewhere on your profile. Or there'll be a tab somewhere on your profile where it shows all your achievements.


Well when you click my armory, there's a tab that says achievements, although you can't click on it yet, so maybe a few will be on the profile, but that tab will be there for your friends to click on too maybe?


I didn't say where will it be shown I said how...

...EXAMPLE: Little achievment shields which you hover your mouse on giving you a description of how you earnt it.

So I'll ask again, how will the achievments be shown in the achievment section? How will it look?
cormyn
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How exactly will the achievments be shown?


I know to start we're showing them on the game play page under the game. I'm not sure yet how we're going to show them on your profile. And yes, ArmorL3gend, I believe they'll have some sort of tooltip pop-up or description of what you did to earn it.

Personally, I like Steam's approach where you can see a list of the person's games and the achievements for each, eg, my Civ 5 achievements page

I don't know exactly how the Achievements page will be laid out, but we'll probably group it per game, and only show the games you've earned Achievements for. (we won't list every game, just the ones where you've started earning Achievements)

This seems like a nice feature. I like the competition of achievements and I enjoy the challenge as well.


It will also be the competition of points, since community involvement (forums, comments, etc) won't award points any more.
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How will the issue of hackers be addressed? Because I'm assuming that a few of these achievements will be based upon the final score, or how long it took to beat the game or a level, which is a problem even now when high scores aren't worth anything.

cormyn
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I've already stated that if we catch someone cheating, we can undo their Achievements, and ban them from gaining further Achievements on a temporary or permanent basis.

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Will people cheating to get achivements definitely banned? Or just for a while?

cormyn
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Depends how serious it is. We'll still have the same warning/tempban/perma-ban workflow when dealing with trouble users, but we'll have two levels on AG3 in this case... If we tempban or perma-ban a user from gaining Achievements, we may also tempban or perma-ban the user from the entire site if they've caused other trouble too.

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I was talking to one of my friends on here and he posed a good question.
Will our game play be transferred over? Like, if an achievement is to get to level 10 on whatever game, and we've done it on AG2, will we automatically get the achievement or will it be reset?

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I would be cool if when you earned Achievements they could increase your karma. Also it would be nice if you could review all of your achievements on your account, AND be able to see achievements that you have not completed yet.

cormyn
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@Jefferysinspiration: Your local flash storage currently looks for games as cache.armorgames.com; AG3 beta calls games something like gamemedia.armorgames.com for the time being, but at launch, it'll be the same cache.armorgames.com... so YES, your locally-saved progress will still be there. Of course, any game save progress the gamedev has built using OUR servers will still be there as long as you're logged in.

@destruction101 Achievements and Reputation are two separate things, and will never overlap (Reputation won't award Achievements, and vice versa). You'll be able to see your gained Achievements on your profile, and you'll be able to see Achievements you haven't won yet underneath every game that can award these Achievements.

Kyouzou
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Will achievements from games that already include them be carried over as actual achievements? Crush the Castle and Exit Path are great examples.

Rosemary16
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Should merits be included as achievements in AG3, It just seems to go together.

cormyn
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Will achievements from games that already include them be carried over as actual achievements? Crush the Castle and Exit Path are great examples.


This has already been discussed. If the game developer rebuilds their game to include our Achievement system and has kept track of your old achievements in the game, then they could unlock your new Achievements on the AG3 web site the next time you play the game.

The CTC series and Exit Path game obviously do keep track of those values, but if a game doesn't currently have any in-game Achievement, like "you finished the first 5 levels", then adding our Achievement system in their game would mean that you as a user would have to replay the game to win those Achievements. This is nothing we can control -- if the gamedev didn't have the forethought to track things like that, there's nothing Armor Games can do about it.
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Should merits be included as achievements in AG3, It just seems to go together.


Not really. We're looking at ways to 'romote' game comments on AG3 that we think are worth showing to all users, but it may be part of our Reputation system. AG3 won't have "merits" like AG2 does.
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Ooh Achievements! In AG 3 will we have an achievements bar on our profile pages? That would be great! Then you could show them off to other members!
Not that im saying ill rub it in :P
I'm just saying...

cormyn
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Yeah, we're not sure yet how we'll display them, or if we just show ALL achievements you've gained, or let you pick your favorite 10 achievements to show off on your profile, etc..

Or maybe a combination ... you pick your top 10 and we'll also show the most recent 10 you won, or something. We're still working out those details.

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