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Apparently the effort of cleaning up the forums has been biased, so the CoD group get their own thread for discussing as well.
Enjoy.

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Gstroy
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im not sayin its bad cuz of lag but it lags in the worst times
It all depends on your connection, as with any multiplayer game.
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Hey guys i just got a new record for Shangri-la i got to 24 with 4 players,i think thats pretty good if u got better i would like to know what strategy u used

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-once I'm done pwning noobs I go onto Armorgames forums and, in text form, own some idiot saying COD multiplayer sucks just because he isn't good at it.lesson: Anyone complaining about campers , noobtubes, or joining a losing team shouldn't be playing multiplayer games in the first place.

Is that all you care about?
Do you think you're a good player? You play CoD, that means you're almost certainly not. Now, using your logic I can see why you wouldn't play BF or Halo above it, they just take more skill. It's a shame really that you can't efficiently play a game.

Oh ! Sorry, I was talking about debating! Your arguments have no ground, his actually does, no, he didn't back it up, but yes, the game is rubble in terms of how easily it can be abused.

Lesson: I've been going about this so long already - I doubt that only now you guys realize.

My point: DaBlackWulf and Gstroy are terrible at throwing out solid arguments.

Now, if you would like to actually talk about the game then make a point - CoD is nothing special, it is the same game throughout the last 4 years, the only difference between MW2 and CoD4 is that MW2 is terribly imbalanced, the only difference between Black Ops and CoD4 is that Black Ops has some retarded technical issues.

Any questions?

RAGE MOMENTS:
1. You know an enemy is gonna come through that area.
You aim down your sights and prepare to take him out.
An enemy from the side or behind starts shooting (not at you). You turn the corner to look, then you get killed from a guy coming through the area that you were previously looking at.
2. Sniping... Holding down your breathe, spy plane shows a guy is coming around the corner. Guy still isn't coming, you lose your breathe and your sniper gets all crazy with swaying... guy comes around corner, gets away.
3. Sniping, you see the guy, he has no idea that you are there. Shoot once, miss. Shoot Twice, miss. Guy spots you and kills you.
4. Kill a guy cooking a frag then getting killed by the dropped frag.
5. Spontanious car explosions

6. Put a guy into last stand, he kills you, then gets revived by a teamate.
7. RC-XD.
8. Get "No-Looker Knifed"
9. Commando BS

10. Getting Spawn Trapped
11. Throwing a sticky grenade then accidently move at the last moment and stick a wall right next to you and get killed by it.
12. Enemy Huey/Gunship on Jungle
13. Zombies: Teamates who won't revive you
14. Zombies: On a high round, you have a horde behind you. You are running away then the moment you get to a doorway ONE ZOMBIE comes out and traps you.
15. Zombies on Five: Teamate uses elavator alone when a horde is folowing all of you.
16. Zombies: Stupid teamates...
17. People who only dropshot
18. Be a victim of a cross-map tomahawk
19. Enemy SR-71
20. Getting trapped in a corner
AND THE NUMBER 1 RAGE MOMENT FOR ME IS:
21. Random claymores


The ones in bold are... Incredibly stupid to get annoyed at.

Spawnkilling is ALSO one to get annoyed at because mate, it's part of the game and quite frankly anyone whos played CoD Online for the last month I think would know that if you plan on NOT EXPECTING that, you're kind of dumb.

Yes, I am possibly insulting your intelligence - how long have you been playing CoD?

All the other reasons are parts of the gameplay etc, I really don't understand why you'd get angry over it, instead learn to counter the darn thing, and if ya can't, then there's some balance issues going on (given that it's an FPS, it's pretty impossible to completely balance it).

I was Dissapointed with Mw2. But my instict tells me Mw3 will be AMAZING.

What is your instinct, exactly?

I love cod itz meh fav and nothins gonna beat it

1) You've ignored everything I said and made a blind statement.
2) You refused to reply to what I said and therefore have no basis for argument.

Which one?

im not sayin its bad cuz of lag but it lags in the worst times

It's FPS issues and I think it is most apparent for the computer being as Xbox / PS3 runs it at 60 FPS whereas in CoD4 and Black Ops there are commands to run it above that, I can run CoD4 on 250 FPS but Black Ops, due to stupid technical issues limits me to around 60, spiking.

Seeing people move / shooting etc can cause terrible spikes which I think is what you are talking about, right?

It all depends on your connection, as with any multiplayer game.

If he is, then this becomes invalid - I do not see it in Battlefield, I have never saw it in Halo, and I don't plan on finding it in CoD4.

Also @auggy2627liveca, try not to stick with a strategy too much, once it goes lop-sided your gameplay becomes less comfortable and it becomes more difficult to survive an onslaught, this pretty much applies to any game. If I get economically hit I am off my game for a while until I regain it, if people have a death streak it can effect them psychologically and that doesn't help.

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Do you think you're a good player? You play CoD, that means you're almost certainly not.
First of all, don't be an a$$hole(I hate censorship systems...). And second of all, I'm good at pretty much any multiplayer shooter, I actually like COD better because its a lot more about gun skill than it is about where you're sitting, not saying there isn't camping in COD, I just run into it more in BF and Halo.
My point: DaBlackWulf and Gstroy are terrible at throwing out solid arguments.
All of your arguments have been opinion based, just the fact that COD sells so well says its doing something right. Also, I'm not sure if you've mentioned this, but a lot of people complain about the COD community being a bunch of kids and trolls... on any video related to MW3 I've seen thousands of comments from BF3 fanboys trolling away to their hearts content. On all of the BF3 videos I've seen "I'm more of a COD guy, but I'm looking into this." And none of the idiotic comments that the BF fanboys seem to love so much. So yeah... +1 for the COD community.
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First of all, don't be an a$$hole(I hate censorship systems...). And second of all, I'm good at pretty much any multiplayer shooter, I actually like COD better because its a lot more about gun skill than it is about where you're sitting, not saying there isn't camping in COD, I just run into it more in BF and Halo.

Given my points... that's a little hypocritical.

I actually like COD better because its a lot more about gun skill than it is about where you're sitting

Okay, there's a few things of why this is kind of wrong, not saying it is, but in some ways... well, it is :P
Sniping in BFBC2 is and probably will be harder than what you'll ever get on CoD. That, and there are specific "methods" which you pretty much need to know in how to use the weapons (LMG's are more accurate the longer you fire, they're suppressive, making Medics a very powerful support class) (Assault Rifles maintain accuracy in bursts, but still maintain very nice lethality) (SMG's are close range in Battlefield terms, they're not very effective in medium-long range fights but given their role, they're more of a Spec Ops unit if they're not on the frontlines helping Tanks).

And secondly... it doesn't rely on where you're sitting. With Battlefield you can adapt, you don't have cover? Make a small crater, if that guy is camping, suppression actually works and no - it doesn't give you points but I think we can both agree that playing for individual (not team) points is a bit too focused for an FPS.

All of your arguments have been opinion based, just the fact that COD sells so well says its doing something right.

I dislike travelling a debate in circles - we've been over this part, I question the integrity of those opinions.

Not that sales equates to a good game anyway...

I've thrown out so many darn arguments over CoD and thus far they've been incorrectly rejected, the technical issues, not mentioned, the imbalance, not mentioned.

Also, I'm not sure if you've mentioned this, but a lot of people complain about the COD community being a bunch of kids and trolls... on any video related to MW3 I've seen thousands of comments from BF3 fanboys trolling away to their hearts content.

I cannot disagree with that. Yes, there is indeed a lot of aggressiveness from the BF players that it is incredibly hypocritical -- and I dislike that a great deal. It's like when Age fans were raging over the graphics in Age of Empires Online, childishly (yes, I used that word on purpose) accusing it of something which hasn't been backed up other than the flexible and lively graphics it has (cartoony).

On all of the BF3 videos I've seen "I'm more of a COD guy, but I'm looking into this." And none of the idiotic comments that the BF fanboys seem to love so much. So yeah... +1 for the COD community.

Granted, but may I add the amount of BM present in CoD games' communities (BM = Bad Manner, simply put :P )? Whilst ripping into a game with no arguments backing it like a lot of BF fans do is inexcusable, I do find that the CoD community can be very disruptive in its own house.

BUT... To be fair, that's a vocal minority by most chances. As I've said however, the communities opinions are not of the matter.

I'd say that's +0.75 to the CoD community - it's definitely valid.



To be more "on-topic", may I establish a couple things?
1) This is slightly related but I do feel my standing hasn't been made clear - I don't stand for any FPS game, since BF3 has this silly preorder bonus which backstabs a large amount of the previous Battlefield community I very largely second guess what they're planning.
2) CoD and a lot of FPS' should not be based on sales etc. There is NO doubt that CoD is very successful in terms of business, but in actual quality (I have discussed this with KentyBK many times and whilst I know this is difficult to separate, I still think it should be ), I feel this falls greatly, if the developers tried building on CoD4 not so rapidly, took it's time and refined the things that made it so good, then I would be rooting for CoD right now. With MW2 I seriously think they just tried to enhance it on so many levels they got the flat things (weapon damage, capabilities in maps, etc) very wrong.

There's my 2 points. Feel free to pick out the parts you think are wrong (or just go through it bit-by-bit) and I'll see you later, hopefully.

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With MW2 I seriously think they just tried to enhance it on so many levels they got the flat things (weapon damage, capabilities in maps, etc) very wrong.
This I agree with, they fixed most problems with weapon balance in Black Ops, granted it took them a while to fix the Famas. COD has gotten to the point where they need to stop adding more and start enhancing what they have, for example, wager matches(not sure how they'll do it with out a currency system). They could easily make a lot of fun wager match game modes.
This is slightly related but I do feel my standing hasn't been made clear - I don't stand for any FPS game, since BF3 has this silly preorder bonus which backstabs a large amount of the previous Battlefield community I very largely second guess what they're planning.
I can see where you're coming from, but I have to disagree. Pre-Order's don't cost extra(at most stores), so why not give extra to those who go out of their way to buy a game 6 months before they get it? It just gives their fans incentive to stay a fan.

Now can we keep the COD thread free of hate on the game? You're entitled to your opinion, and you've made that opinion very clear, I don't see any point in drawing this out any further. I'd like to apologize for my over reactions and anything I may have said out of anger or frustration, let's agree to disagree and go our separate ways.
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what are your kdr on black ops?and do you believe that when MW3 comes out that black ops will be dead?

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what are your kdr on black ops?
Low... I play for fun, not for stats.
and do you believe that when MW3 comes out that black ops will be dead?
Nope, I don't believe any COD will die until the whole series dies, there are still plenty of people playing MW2, WaW, MW, and even COD 2.
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i cant wait until cod modern wafare 3 comes out

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This I agree with, they fixed most problems with weapon balance in Black Ops, granted it took them a while to fix the Famas.

My main problem is snipers - not the damage or anything like that, simply the hit registration which is pretty dire.

COD has gotten to the point where they need to stop adding more and start enhancing what they have, for example, wager matches(not sure how they'll do it with out a currency system). They could easily make a lot of fun wager match game modes.

I think they grew a bit too fast of their features anyway but yes, talking about now - they need to settle down and build on what they have.

I can see where you're coming from, but I have to disagree. Pre-Order's don't cost extra(at most stores), so why not give extra to those who go out of their way to buy a game 6 months before they get it? It just gives their fans incentive to stay a fan.

I heard that the flashlight for the Sniper (or something) is essential for a specific play style of it. If so, then if they charge you for it after pre-order bonus is over, that's very bad.

I disagree with any game-changing (on any level) package in this way, map packs made after release? Sure, if they're good for price (with DICE I'd imagine they would be). Weapons Packs? Yeah, if it's also made after release - but I don't think you can limit someone of part of the game on its release date.
If it's a preorder bonus, something like vanity wouldn't be too bad, still it is because it limits someone who bought the game from having it if they didn't preorder etc on it's release date (you're not buying the entire thing, basically).

Collectors editions = Something physical in real life + game on release.
Limited Edition = Cool casing? I don't know.
Normal Edition = Everything at games release.

I think that is fair, if you ask me. :P

there are still plenty of people playing MW2, WaW, MW, and even COD 2.

There is professional play in CoD2 mind you... A lot of CoD4 professional players are / were CoD2 pro's as well.

Reminds me of people from SCI playing SCII now, BoxeR, oGsMC, etc. :P

Now can we keep the COD thread free of hate on the game? You're entitled to your opinion, and you've made that opinion very clear, I don't see any point in drawing this out any further. I'd like to apologize for my over reactions and anything I may have said out of anger or frustration, let's agree to disagree and go our separate ways.

Where exactly do we disagree on CoD, though? :P

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black ops is dead. people found black ops to b exactly like waw which sucked. puttin black ops out for wii was a mistake cuz it crashes ur system i had a repair done and it is still freezing. black ops was ok at the beginning then it lost popularity

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My main problem is snipers - not the damage or anything like that, simply the hit registration which is pretty dire.
They've done a lot of tweaking with patches, it's actually pretty good now-a-days.
I heard that the flashlight for the Sniper (or something) is essential for a specific play style of it. If so, then if they charge you for it after pre-order bonus is over, that's very bad.

I disagree with any game-changing (on any level) package in this way, map packs made after release? Sure, if they're good for price (with DICE I'd imagine they would be). Weapons Packs? Yeah, if it's also made after release - but I don't think you can limit someone of part of the game on its release date.
If it's a preorder bonus, something like vanity wouldn't be too bad, still it is because it limits someone who bought the game from having it if they didn't preorder etc on it's release date (you're not buying the entire thing, basically).

Collectors editions = Something physical in real life + game on release.
Limited Edition = Cool casing? I don't know.
Normal Edition = Everything at games release.

I think that is fair, if you ask me. :P
I agree with this as well. I think that, at the most, they could throw an extra gun camo or something like that into the game, maybe even early access to a weapon, like in MoH and WaW, but even that's pushing it a little.
I think they grew a bit too fast of their features anyway but yes, talking about now - they need to settle down and build on what they have.
Yeah... they have a lot of good features that aren't getting enough attention... I'm glad we agree on that.
Where exactly do we disagree on CoD, though? :P
Not sure... mainly I accept the little bumps in the road while you(no offense intended) hate every little pebble. I kinda like the bumpy ride, it makes it a lot more interesting. :P
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My mom won't let me get CoD.

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CoD gets very repetitive. Deathmatch is pretty boring and camping is very frequent, which I hate.

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They've done a lot of tweaking with patches, it's actually pretty good now-a-days.

I'm not installing MW2 or Black Ops on this computer. Hell, I haven't installed any games other than World of Warcraft and Starcraft II - the only games I'd wanna put on this is:
Magicka
Amnesia: The Dark Descent
Crysis 2
Battlefield 3 (which I'm not getting)
Mass Effect 3 (pretty much definitely getting)
Battlefield Bad Company 2

At the moment though I'm actually holding off from all of them, I can easily invest all my time into WoW and SCII - I'm gonna go for SCII though probably.

I agree with this as well. I think that, at the most, they could throw an extra gun camo or something like that into the game, maybe even early access to a weapon, like in MoH and WaW, but even that's pushing it a little.

With the preorder bonuses from Crysis 2 you had a SCAR camo which was unobtainable by other people - which wasn't the best, but it was as close to acceptable as it could've been, they gave you platinum dog tags, which was also unobtainable, it boosted you to rank 5 and gave an attatchment for the SCAR.

If they simply gave you the camo for free without actually limiting it to only you, that may have been fine - it's only vanity, really. The boost takes away from the gameplay replayability and the platinum dogtag is also unobtainable - maybe they could've had it "Bronze - Silver - Gold - Platinum" depending on ranks.

A bit like Battlefield Bad Company actually :P

Yeah... they have a lot of good features that aren't getting enough attention... I'm glad we agree on that.

Same
I'd like to see a little more built on attatchments and customizability. For the most part they took a great step in customization in Black Ops however it could certainly get better and more complex - picking where to put it on your gun, how big, etc.

One thing I don't understand is what's up with the limitations of emblems? I'd rather be able to make something as bad / good as I want without thinking "I can only have 12 signs to make this - can I do that?"... it also makes people WANT to use those 12, feeling like it's not at full effect if they don't.

Not sure... mainly I accept the little bumps in the road while you(no offense intended) hate every little pebble. I kinda like the bumpy ride, it makes it a lot more interesting. :P

That's actually a pretty badarse way of thinking. It must look pretty awesome when you very nicely counter a guy using a more... "nooby" path in the game, still being top of the board and ultimately just blasting through everyone in a huge variety of ways.

And yes - I do hate on it a lot, but I think it doesn't deserve all the praise it receives... given some of the unnecessary flaws it has / had on release and still carrying on now, for a triple A game it shouldn't have that, right?

Also, just went over "building over the customizing" stuff - really I think they just need to take out the limits for the most part, lol

If something is not in Black Ops that you want a sign of, maybe someone can make a very detailed / colorful one of it using 50 Sword Emblems?

Then you can download small &quotacks" of items that are combinations of smaller ones (Minecraft, anyone?) for free off of other players.

O.o Not bad if you ask me.

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