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cormyn
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Hi everyone, I have more news to share about points and ranking on AG3, and wanted to lump in ranking and leaderboard discussions here as well.

The previous topic was here:
http://armorgames.com/community/thread/6441505/ideas-and-discussions-about-migrating-armor-points-to-agv3

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I hope you're sitting down ...

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For the "TL;DR" people among you: everyone will essentially have their Armor Points reset to zero. AG3 will likely not migrate any points from AG2 with our current setup and direction.

Unless something drastic happens, or there's enough people who vocalize their unhappiness about this to Dan, this is how AG3 will start out.

After our meeting about Achievements yesterday, I was brought in the loop on how "points" will work on AG3.

In a nutshell...

AG3 "Armor Points" as a sum total will calculate your "AG Score". We will still refer to them as "points", but the site will show them as your "score".

AG3 points will be awarded primarily through the winning of game-related Achievements, and each achievement will have different amounts of points attached (easier achievements will give fewer points, for example).

The achievements we award for AG2 legacy features (previous rank, forum post count, etc) will not award AG3 points.

I do NOT believe we will award points for rating games, or if we do, it will be a minimal amount like the 2 points we give you now. If this is the case, we WILL migrate some points.

The examples Larry gave yesterday about Achievements showed some being worth as many as 15 or 30 points EACH.

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I will re-open this topic when I have more information to answer questions.

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jeol
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As far as I know, you still get point for posts and comments.

Not for AP, though. AP will be strictly for achievements in-game and not for community involvement. Maybe for the Reputation system, though I'm not entirely sure how that works.
GhostOfMatrix
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Are they changing it so you cannot get points from forum posts?

Armor points will be earned through getting achievements and possibly rating games. Reputation points which is different than armor points will most likely be earned through people voting up your posts and comments.
CommanderPaladin
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- whether we should keep the current rank system (serf, knight, prince, king, etc) and WHY


Definitely keep the rank and point system. While some people may not care for it, I think it is a good measure of how long you've been here, how active you are, and how constructive you are. (Example: You can actively spam, but your points show you as not being constructive.) Also, having ranks gives users something to aim for in a sense and thereby promotes activity and constructiveness.

- whether we need to come up with a new rank system, and what you think the ranks should be


Here's an idea I had about a new type of rank system: Leave the ranks for basic users the same, but make an additional rank system for the Mods based on seniority and activity. The ranks for this could be based on military ranks, i.e. Mod 1st class, Mod Corporal, Mod Sargeant, Mod Master Sargeant, etc. on up to 4-star General.
Also, that extra rank might give the Mods a little more psychological clout with recalcitrant fools like that one that's been going after Freakenstein.
benjaminio
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Armor points will be earned through getting achievements and possibly rating games. Reputation points which is different than armor points will most likely be earned through people voting up your posts and comments.


I assume both scores or amounts of points will be shown on your profile, like they are now?
GhostOfMatrix
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I assume both scores or amounts of points will be shown on your profile, like they are now?

It'd make sense to do that, but in a smaller area. From seeing how the profiles were set up in closed beta and if they don't change those a lot then it'd have to be small.
benjaminio
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Would there be an overall score? say some sort of reputation score and points from achievements combined, to give you a ranking in the site?

GhostOfMatrix
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Probably. Or having two separate leaderboards for people with most armor points and most reputation points.

jinthezone
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AG should keep the medieval ranks
and if it changes AG would also need
to change the logo.

GhostOfMatrix
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They might, check the post I made on the second page. I think they should add more medieval ranks so it's more difficult to get to the highest rank.

benjaminio
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check the post I made on the second page.


Wouldn't that be too long a list? There's so many there, that people would take for ever just to get past the first stage.

However, if it was made easier to rank up, with lots of ranks, and perhaps harder as it goes along, that would make it very easy to get past the first few ranks, but would mean only the real dedicated people would get to the very high ones.

Also, if we could see how many armour points or reputation points you need to get to the next rank, because at the moment I don't really know when the next rank is, so I'm taking stabs in the dark about the score level.
Ernie15
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There's so many there, that people would take for ever just to get past the first stage.


More ranks makes it more fun. The people who devote all their time to reaching the highest rank will be dedicated users for a longer time, and it means it will be more time before the top 100 is filled with people of the highest rank.

However, if it was made easier to rank up, with lots of ranks, and perhaps harder as it goes along, that would make it very easy to get past the first few ranks, but would mean only the real dedicated people would get to the very high ones.


So, in other words, exactly the way it is now, but with more ranks?
GhostOfMatrix
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Wouldn't that be too long a list? There's so many there, that people would take for ever just to get past the first stage.

A challenge is good and it would distinguish people.
Also, if we could see how many armour points or reputation points you need to get to the next rank, because at the moment I don't really know when the next rank is, so I'm taking stabs in the dark about the score level.

Ranks. I'd like it to have more ranks and increase the amount of points you require for the top rank. Say if they add all those medieval ranks from the page linked to on the second page then you'll need 35-40k armor points for the highest rank. Something like that.
Ernie15
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I'd like it to have more ranks and increase the amount of points you require for the top rank.


Indeed, ranks separated like these will make the challenge of ranking up last much longer than it did here on AG2; it was only about 6 months or so before someone reached Gold King, but it took nearly a year and a half for someone just to reach the 22nd of the ranks on the page I linked to (the site that used those ranks, Myninjakiwi, no longer exists).
GhostOfMatrix
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Would probably keep more people around, too. I've noticed most people who have reached gold king go inactive since they don't have anything else to do on the site.

nichodemus
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Would probably keep more people around, too. I've noticed most people who have reached gold king go inactive since they don't have anything else to do on the site.


I think it has more to do with ''My-friends-are-all-gone'' Syndrome. You, Ernie and Knight are still around.
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