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F18-Hornet and the F22-Raptor

Posted May 11, '08 at 7:18pm

StarScreamer

StarScreamer

629 posts

Gold - King

Are they the best most advanced planes in the world? I think that they are.

Posted May 11, '08 at 8:04pm

Ricador

Ricador

3,282 posts

Gold - Prince

Yes but there is also the newest of the new.

The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter

google it it is a sick (in the good way) plane

but it is not even in commission yet so yes the Raptor and the Hornet would currently be the most advanced

but you also have to consider the drone planes such as the predator

as you can tell i am very interested in the Air Force :)

 

Posted May 11, '08 at 8:08pm

Strongbow

Strongbow

186 posts

Wood - Knight

Predator is an amazing drone.  I have a friend who works on that program, and he's told me that it has incredible potential.  It could very well signal a change in aero-warfare.  Imagine computer dogfights! It boggles, to say the least.

 

Posted May 11, '08 at 8:15pm

kanethebrain

kanethebrain

246 posts

Iron - Squire

Eh, they might be the "sexiest" planes around, but I doubt they are either the most useful or most technically advanced.

The F-22 has had a lot of problem in production and usage, and F-15s can still fly circles around them. The idea of the F-22 was nifty, but the implementation that came out of it wasn't so great. I don't blame them; the engineering challenges were enormous.

As a fighter craft, the F-35/JSF is eclipsing just about every other fighter out there.

For technical prowess, I'd give it to either the B-2 or the SR-71. The stealth, gliding ability, and weapon accuracy and effectiveness make me think that the B-2 is a better plane. The SR-71 is just freaking cool. I mean, any plane were the thing to do when a missile is fired at you, is to just accelerate, is pretty cool. Not to mention that it flew higher than most missiles could reach. Of course, that necessitated a spacesuit for the pilots.

The thing is, fighters are not really useful military aircraft anymore. The military with enough fighters and trained pilots can crush any other country's air force with a stealth bombing campaign, and the enemy will never get their fighters off the ground. The real workhorses of the air force are the fat slow bombers, the boring troop transports, and the funky looking air-refueling craft.

 

Posted May 12, '08 at 8:46am

woody_7007

woody_7007

2,494 posts

Gold - Prince

The eurofighter is the most manouverable plane in the world and could fly rings round the F planes however us Brits are getting some F35s which when they are in production will be the best

 

Posted May 12, '08 at 11:19am

Calm

Calm

864 posts

Iron - Duke

@woody
The French Rafale outmanoeuvred the Eurofighter, fairly easily...
I personnaly don't think there is one unique plane that's better than the others. theyall serve different purposes and so can't be compared to others. Also, the plane performances depend a lot on the pilot.

Have you heard of the "red flag" exercise? It's a competition between different countries, to see which is the best plane.

 

Posted May 12, '08 at 3:53pm

Megamickel

Megamickel

933 posts

Wood - Knight

Personally, I like the C-17 Globemaster III, the plane used by many countries for airlifting supplies and troops. With a 102 troop capacity and a 3-man crew, it's not really a plane so much as a flying castle of death.

 

Posted May 12, '08 at 6:49pm

anailator23

anailator23

101 posts

Iron - Squire

a lot of people complain about how much money is spent on the F-22 stealh tech.  What they don't realize is that you usually rely on your radar to target enemy planes. No radar signature, no target

 

Posted May 12, '08 at 7:35pm

BASHA

BASHA

634 posts

Iron - Knight

i agree with anailator

 

Posted May 13, '08 at 1:32pm

woody_7007

woody_7007

2,494 posts

Gold - Prince

i have heard of the red flag excercise my dad was in it last year.

Also the french are a joke the cheeseeatingsurrendermonkeys.But seriously the eurofighter has been proven to be the most manouverable jet in the world. It has more thrust than the Rafale (13.5k to the Rafales 11.25k) and more powerful afterburner both giving it faster acceleration. The eurofighter has a top speed of mach 2 around 1300mph but the Rafale has a max speed of mach 1.8 around 1100mph.The eurofighter and Rafale are both 4.5th generation planes. In conclusion the eurofighter is faster, has more acceleration and has been proven to be the most manouverable jet in the world.

The eurofighter won all 3 combat and dogfighting tests at the 2005 Singapore competition so don't talk rubbish.

There is also a competition held every year in America where all pilots use the same plane to see which nation has the best pilots. Britain wins consistently as they have the toughest training course(only 10% who apply make it through) so the eurofighter has the best pilots.

That is why the eurofighter is in my opinion the best plane in the world. It is also a multi role aircraft and so can be used for any reason ie air to air or air to ground.

The only plane that can compare to it is the F22 raptor as it has stealth capabilities. That is the only thing it has over the eurofighter, a big advantage i'll admit however the comparative logistics of the plane are very similar with no clear winner until....

In 2005 the eurofighter had a chance encounter with 2 Raptor F22s in the lake district. The encounter turned into a mock dogfight the eurofighter emerging victorious. So when it comes down to it the quality of the eurofighter and its pilots beat 2 f22s. Thats all i have to say on that.

 

Posted May 14, '08 at 9:55am

StarScreamer

StarScreamer

629 posts

Gold - King

F-35 Joint Strike Fighter is a new non-commisioned plane. it will see commision soon and will be the best most advanced plane today. However, until it comes out to service the F22 Raptor will be the best ground launching fighter in the world and the F18 Hornet will be the best Aircraft carrier plane. I am sorry to say this but foreign planes that are not made by the USA are not the best in the world. They are not as advanced as the USA's planes. Incase you didn't know in WWII the USA had to lend pilots and planes to China beacuse they were still using byplanes! So that just shows you that the US has the best, most advanced fighter planes in the world.

I also have noticed that there are many problems with the F22 Raptor. Because all of the bombs and rockets and stuff are stored inside of the plane it has a easy jamming possiblitly. The F18 hornet also has some problems too. The weapons are on the outside, also causeing easy jams in the rockets. However, the US airforce has made a umjamming system that has been equaipped with all US fighter planes and bombers. all it does is unhooks everything in that missle and lets it go. its a pretty symple device if you ask me.

 
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