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Thrillology
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This is just curiosity and so people can talk about how they feel about the government of their country or what government they believe is right.
Personally, I believe in a small government where the government hardly does anything to affect your life, but people just don't care nowadays what happens: They just want free stuff, like money, food to make them fatter, other free junk from what the government 'romises' also known as 'lies' and the government has just controlled people.
So, I believe in a small, democratic government that won't control your daily life. That would include Capitalism as well.

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EmperorPalpatine
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Dictatorship if you need to do something quick (5-50) years and if the are not crazy.

The main problem is greed which leads to corruption. When you can find an honest man to handle that kind of power and still uphold the rights of their people, then it might work.
Zootsuit_riot
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I'm a big fan of the Rawlsian state where people have:

1.) The right to the most extensive scheme of liberties possible given that these liberties do not intrude upon the liberties of others.

and,

2.)Social and economic inequalities are possible if and only if

a.)The differences that arise from these inequalities benefit the worst off members of society, and
b.) These inequalities arise from offices which are equally/fairly open to everyone who is a member of this a society.

This is, of course, an extremely simplified version of Rawls' Principles of Justice. Nonetheless, I think they hold a lot of weight and ought to be considered when discussing what a state ought to look like.

SecondMan2012
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Absolute power corrupts absolutely.


I'm a person who believes that human pride can ruin any system. I'm going to be brief, but if you want me to elaborate on any of my opinions than tell me. My opinion is the following:

Socialism allows for people to feed off the government until the government can't handle it. Socialism is bound to fail because no human is perfect.

Capitalism lives upon human pride and can very easily fail if people are not reasonable and civil with each other.

Facism is by definition totalitarian and impersonal. I believe that facism is so represive to humans that it will never sucseed in governing humans.

Feudalism satisfied the basic human desire for security, at least on a local level. But humans yearn for more than the basics and for unity and solidarity so I believe feudalism can only work for brief stretches of time.

Anarchy is non-government therefore it doesn't belong in this thread. But yeah, it two is bound to fail.

Democracy/Republic: I believe this is the most successful type of government that exists. It gives people, if done right, representation and therefore a voice. It also provides security and organization.

I think no matter what the government, it can fail because of human pride and human imperfection.
zakyman
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Well, communism works on paper but not in practice. I would say that a democracy in stead of a republic would work best for the US. That way, everyones' voice is truly heard.

NoPlee
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Communism - sucks the incentive out of anything! Why should anyone work hard if they dont need to?

Our economical system keeps us working harder for the bigger and better.

grimml
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The Swiss government. If the whole world copied Switzerland, it would be such a nice place.

Like I already said I would change some little things like the bicameral system. And also this form of government only works for small countries.
sprooschicken
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Well what i can say for certain is that the UK needs a new system, I mean, we had a prime minister serve a full term without ever being voted for!?!

Corruption is rife but people had to wait until the next electionto get the cheating scumbags out, the problem is that they're all at it, so you just have to choose the lesser of two evils (or three or four) in most cases, We have democracy, but its very distorted.

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I think the American government could be truly great if elected leaders actually READ and FOLLOWED the constitution. Governments around the world have become bloated unsustainable abominations. Get back to basics, ask exactly what services the government should provide and trim the excess.

Less government equals more freedom. The founding fathers knew this.

jroyster22
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The type of gov't that I believe is right is the one that doesn't lie to their people. Any of those left?

sprooschicken
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no

Kyouzou
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Less government equals more freedom.


Right then, we'll just get rid of the Federal Reserve, Social Security, Welfare, and Medicare, do enjoy your small government.


Well look at that, the national debt suddenly dropped into the realm of numbers we can comprehend.
partydevil
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i think the american government could be truly great


not likely they try to separate 300mill people in just 2 groups whit only 2 ideas about how things should be done.
Kyouzou
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That partydevil is where you are wrong, while the two major parties may have beliefs that lean in one direction or the other, there many smaller parties that have their own platforms.

Actually I suppose you could say three major parties now, considering the size of the Tea Party.

Also, the parties are created by the individual, not the government, people choose their beliefs, we're not indoctrinated. (Unless someone's parents were particularly vehement, but I can't account for that.)

zakyman
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considering the size of the Tea Party.


The Tea Party is actually very small. The only reason that they are such a big factor is because they refuse to compromise.
Doverstav
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I believe the right government would be one that follows a socioliberal (a mix of socialism and liberalism) ideology.

What I'm getting at here is that taxes should exist, but kept at the lowest possible level, as not to hinder a free market economy, but still being able to provide a &quotrotective net" for those who may not be born as privileged as others, or may not have the ability/funding/whatever to start their own company/get a job with a reasonably high paycheck or whatnot.

It's a very brief explanation, but I think my point gets across.

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