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Posted Jun 15, '12 at 1:56pm

SkywardStriker05

SkywardStriker05

32 posts

I've been told Allah is just the word for God in the middle east, is this true?

Yes, Allah is God in Arabic, Farsi, Pashto, Dari, Berber and Urdu.

 

Posted Jun 19, '12 at 12:49pm

cesar3333

cesar3333

2 posts

First of all, I believe that there is a Creator. And that there is just one Creator. Abrahamic Religions are the most logical ones, why would so many people believe in it if it wasn't?

well many people are dying for nothing they are killing each other for nothing ? so do you think that's right also ?

All the religions have handicaps.and i don't think you're able to answer questions about Islam.

p.s i'm an atheist.

 

Posted Jun 20, '12 at 5:19pm

DSM

DSM

799 posts

...And that seems logical to you? To wipe out an entire countries army, which he could stop at any moment by nonfatal means?

why stop an army, who want to kill innocent people? I dont see USA stop killing terrorist anytime soon...

Would you murder the innocent soldiers, who you want to not die?

Who said he didnt want to?

I wouldn't, I would freeze them temporarily until the followers run away, or levitate them, or make the sand below them quicksand up to their necks, or make a wind that stalls them. Killing them would be unnecessary and illogical.

and freeze them, so they can start killing innocent people later, sounds more logical to you...

Unless they are completely dedicated to their cause or god...

If they were completely dedicated, they wouldnt blow them up in the first place, since it against the rule

Which is logical. But easy for people to read as "It is ok to attack people". How hard would it be for a terrorist leader to convince people that their enemies attacked first?

Last I checked, all countries, including USA. It ok to attack in self defense.

And after your logic, it would be easy for a person to convince an US citizen, to start randomly attack each other...

Unless of course they don't stop, in witch case it is OK to kill them? Or apparently all of them, and everyone who works for them?

after your logic, anyone can beat you, hit you, try to kill you. Yet you wont move a muscle to prevent any of it?

So fight people who you are at war with. It is almost like the terrorist are reading that and thinking to fight people they are at war with.

are you saying all muslims are terrorist? if not, then I dont see whats wrong with this text. Any country will fight someone who they are at war with.

I dont know about you, but so far what is written are very logical.

 

Posted Jun 20, '12 at 7:07pm

314d1

314d1

3,510 posts

why stop an army, who want to kill innocent people? I dont see USA stop killing terrorist anytime soon...

The difference is that the USA has to kill terrorist to stop them. God is like Super Man on steroids, and Super man doesn't even kill people.

Lets say it is like a video game, like Mass Effect. You have two choices, you can stop the army without killing them (Paragon) or you can kill the entire army (Renegade). While stopping the army by killing them is the most humans can do, Yawheh has the option to stop them. Without killing them. Witch makes killing them cruel, doesn't it?

Who said he didnt want to?

So Yawheh likes killing innocents? I don't see how that supports your cause...

and freeze them, so they can start killing innocent people later, sounds more logical to you...

Why would they start killing innocent people later on? Why couldn't he just freeze them every time he tries to harm someone? He is, after all, omnipotent and omniscient, what would stop him?

If they were completely dedicated, they wouldnt blow them up in the first place, since it against the rule

No it isn't, they consider themselves myters for their god, which is considered a good thing. Not against the rules at all.

Last I checked, all countries, including USA. It ok to attack in self defense.

And after your logic, it would be easy for a person to convince an US citizen, to start randomly attack each other..

Some major differences being the fact that people in the US can often get actual news. The terrorist believe whatever they are told.

after your logic, anyone can beat you, hit you, try to kill you. Yet you wont move a muscle to prevent any of it?

Of course not, if someone is trying to kill me I do everything in my power to stop them. Witch is usually shooting them. Like I said, that is the only way I could stop them. If Superman was getting shot at, it would be illogical for him to go and crush the enemies head, since he does not need to.

are you saying all muslims are terrorist? if not, then I dont see whats wrong with this text. Any country will fight someone who they are at war with.

I am saying that the text quite clearly says to go and kill people, witch is hardly a message at peace. I am saying that Muslim terrorist are a current threat above domestic terrorist in America, being better armed and hiding better.

 

Posted Jun 21, '12 at 3:01am

miniphu

miniphu

72 posts

What's with all the terrorist talk?  Islam and terrorism are two COMPLETELY different things.  Maybe the most recent terrorists happened  to be Muslim, but that doesn't make Islam a religion of terror.  Anybody remember Timothy McVeigh?  It seems this thread has really gotten away from its original purpose. 

As for my question, how hard is it being Muslim in a predominately Christian country like the United States?  What challenges do you face?

 

Posted Jun 21, '12 at 5:22am

DSM

DSM

799 posts

Lets say it is like a video game, like Mass Effect. You have two choices, you can stop the army without killing them (Paragon) or you can kill the entire army (Renegade). While stopping the army by killing them is the most humans can do, Yawheh has the option to stop them. Without killing them. Witch makes killing them cruel, doesn't it?

stopping the army would just mean they can kill later on. It doesnt make sense to prevent somebody, to kill, and in the meantime let them kill others later.

So Yawheh likes killing innocents?

last time I checked, it wasnt innocent to kill... so by calling them innocent, you actually justified cold blooded murder.

Why would they start killing innocent people later on? Why couldn't he just freeze them every time he tries to harm someone? He is, after all, omnipotent and omniscient, what would stop him?

So if USA caught a murder. Then after your opinion they should imprison him for 1 day, and then release him again. And every time they catch him doing something wrong, they should hold him for 1 day?

No it isn't, they consider themselves myters for their god, which is considered a good thing. Not against the rules at all.

not if the rule clearly states, that it against them doing that.

so after your opinion it ok, for an american to kill a innocent person, if he just says he did for america? and it will be USA fault, because the american citizen did it for USA, which is good after your opinion.

Some major differences being the fact that people in the US can often get actual news. The terrorist believe whatever they are told.

so you are saying a muslin, is a terrorist. And your saying a muslim isn't human, since he cant get actual news. And you assume a muslim cant be a US citizen.

I will repeat the same thing millions people are saying, muslims are not terrorist.

after reading your arguments, it sounds like you assume muslim are the terrorist.

I doubt USA or any other country, got any different rules.

Of course not, if someone is trying to kill me I do everything in my power to stop them. Witch is usually shooting them. Like I said, that is the only way I could stop them. If Superman was getting shot at, it would be illogical for him to go and crush the enemies head, since he does not need to.

last time I checked, muslims aren't superman's. And cant withstand a bullet, or any other kind of weapons.

I am saying that the text quite clearly says to go and kill people, witch is hardly a message at peace.

so does the US laws, or any other countries. Since the rules are all the same. I doubt USA will stand and watch, while other countries bomb them and kills them.

I am saying that Muslim terrorist are a current threat above domestic terrorist in America, being better armed and hiding better.

Then blame the individuals, and not Islam for it. Since Islam clearly says it against terror.

 

Posted Jun 21, '12 at 6:11am

danielo

danielo

1,397 posts

its very funny to see all thhese "american patriots" who just looking for the word "kill" in the qurean, and than jump on you reiki. you can post about the rules of handling food, but when they will see the word "kill", 3 of them will already say "what a barbarians" and "in USA we never let it happen" and stuff. last time i checked, Christianity did said "show the other cheek", but i dont see any of them doing something close to it.

im not against christiany or against USA. im against Egocentricity and the thinking of peoples that there cultur and religion is supereme and the other are inferior barbarians.

 

Posted Jun 21, '12 at 6:53pm

314d1

314d1

3,510 posts

stopping the army would just mean they can kill later on. It doesnt make sense to prevent somebody, to kill, and in the meantime let them kill others later.

So why doesn't he stop them from killing later?

last time I checked, it wasnt innocent to kill... so by calling them innocent, you actually justified cold blooded murder.

(I noticed I called him Yawheh. I forgot he was Allah. Both are six letter words wit Hs, so it is logical I would get them tied up...)

Bloody murderers? All right, lets say that the entire Egyptian army at that time was bloody murderers. Do you know what happened before the Egyptian army was killed? The last plague of Egypt?

Every first born child was killed. Every one of them. And these where not hardened soldiers sent to kill anyone, they where children. Did those children diverse to die?

So if USA caught a murder. Then after your opinion they should imprison him for 1 day, and then release him again. And every time they catch him doing something wrong, they should hold him for 1 day?

If the US government was omnipotent and omniscient, maybe. Why wouldn't a god be able to stop such a thing?

not if the rule clearly states, that it against them doing that.

Where does it say that?

47:4 Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom till the war lay down its burdens. That (is the ordinance). And if Allah willed He could have punished them (without you) but (thus it is ordained) that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He rendereth not their actions vain.

Witch seems to say to go and kill the diss believers. And if you die fighting your holy war, then it was OK.

so after your opinion it ok, for an american to kill a innocent person, if he just says he did for america? and it will be USA fault, because the american citizen did it for USA, which is good after your opinion.

Are you saying that the people in Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, or whomever don't blame America for all the deaths of the innocents? Last I checked, we do get blamed for that.

so you are saying a muslin, is a terrorist. And your saying a muslim isn't human, since he cant get actual news. And you assume a muslim cant be a US citizen.

....Yes. You obviously saw right threw me. That terrorist who is fed everything by a fanatical leader, in a poor country where they are likely to get only news filtered by that fanatical leader, with few unbiased news sources, can only not get news because he is a Muslim. You got exactly what I am saying, without misinterpreting it with your moronic mindset. And of course I am saying a Muslim can't be a U.S citizen, that is obviously exactly what I said. Since of course any attempt for them to join makes them spontaneously combust, apparently. And it is not like there is tens of thousands of Muslims serving in our own military, fighting the terrorists, since apparently they can't be citizens. You cought me, good job.

I will repeat the same thing millions people are saying, muslims are not terrorist.

Some are. Or are you denying that there are Muslim terrorist?

after reading your arguments, it sounds like you assume muslim are the terrorist.

Yes, since after I said specifically that Muslim terrorist are not the only terrorist, but are simply the ones America is currently having the biggest threat against. You got me, using your powers of stereotyping, I am obviously a racist. Good job.

I doubt USA or any other country, got any different rules.

...Rules for what?

last time I checked, muslims aren't superman's. And cant withstand a bullet, or any other kind of weapons.

Weren't we still talking about Allah, who is a superman, drowning the Egyptian army?

so does the US laws, or any other countries. Since the rules are all the same. I doubt USA will stand and watch, while other countries bomb them and kills them.

Of course not, since that is a practical rule. It does not make much since to let yourself get blown up. But apparently terrorist don't realize that, and try to get themselves blown up. Are you denying that Muslim terrorist had attacked America? Before America had attacked? Who did it for their religion? Witch they believe says you can blow yourself up for you god? It doesn't matter how you interpret it, or how the OP interprets it. Are you denying that Muslim terrorist can interpret the Quaran, easily, to fit what they are doing?

Then blame the individuals, and not Islam for it. Since Islam clearly says it against terror.

You obviously didn't get what I was saying. That was the post where I said "Not all terrorist are Muslim".

The difference between individuals and religion is that religion causes the action. An American troop shoots an innocent and collects it's toes as trophies? That was simply an insane individual. If he where part of the French army, the British army, or just a civilian, he would have done the same thing. His status as a soldier for America doesn't change anything.

But the religion? If a terrorist blows himself up, he would not do it unless he was completely and utterly dedicated to his cause. And he would not do that without his insane religion. Or are you saying he would blow himself up if he was an atheist?

its very funny to see all thhese "american patriots" who just looking for the word "kill" in the qurean, and than jump on you reiki. you can post about the rules of handling food, but when they will see the word "kill", 3 of them will already say "what a barbarians" and "in USA we never let it happen" and stuff. last time i checked, Christianity did said "show the other cheek", but i dont see any of them doing something close to it.

*Clap clap clap* Nice reading. Since that is obviously what is happening. Since every one who posted on this sight has been Christian, especially the ones arguing against the Muslims. Especially in the last few pages. Way to pay attention.

And am I the only one who thinks it is OK to call people out when their religion says "Go slit the necks of the nonbelievers!"?

im not against christiany or against USA. im against Egocentricity and the thinking of peoples that there cultur and religion is supereme and the other are inferior barbarians.

Since that is obviously what happens. Way to actually read what is being written.

 

Posted Jun 21, '12 at 11:00pm

nitin007

nitin007

81 posts

how tolerant are muslims toward nonbelievers?

 

Posted Jun 24, '12 at 6:14am

DSM

DSM

799 posts

So why doesn't he stop them from killing later?

give me an example how

Bloody murderers? All right, lets say that the entire Egyptian army at that time was bloody murderers. Do you know what happened before the Egyptian army was killed? The last plague of Egypt?

Every first born child was killed. Every one of them. And these where not hardened soldiers sent to kill anyone, they where children. Did those children diverse to die?

Since god is all knowing, then the children could have gotten horrible life when they grow up, or they would become the same as the Egyptian army. So that why god decide they should go to heaven, instead of living a horrible life in earth.

If the US government was omnipotent and omniscient, maybe. Why wouldn't a god be able to stop such a thing?

When a person is evil, he will keep committing crimes. So I dont see your point.

47:4 Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom till the war lay down its burdens. That (is the ordinance). And if Allah willed He could have punished them (without you) but (thus it is ordained) that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He rendereth not their actions vain.

We are talking about battle/war. your own argument dont support you.

Yes. You obviously saw right threw me.

yes, I did

can only not get news because he is a Muslim.

Yes, you did say that indirectly

And of course I am saying a Muslim can't be a U.S citizen

yes, you did say that to, also indirectly

And it is not like there is tens of thousands of Muslims serving in our own military, fighting the terrorists,

and thanks for proving my point. according to you, it says in Islam to kill non believers, yet there is muslims who fighting terrorism. so I gonna repeat myself, Islam doesn't support terrorism. 

Some are. Or are you denying that there are Muslim terrorist?

I am not denying there is very few, but it doesn't mean Islam is support it. They are doing for their own political reason.

Yes, since after I said specifically that Muslim terrorist are not the only terrorist, but are simply the ones America is currently having the biggest threat against. You got me, using your powers of stereotyping, I am obviously a racist. Good job.

Your own fault. We were clearly talking about the rules in Islam, instead you turn the topic to terrorism.

And who America got a threat with. Has nothing to do with Islam.

...Rules for what?

it funny how you insult danielo for not paying attention, yet you yourself haven't.

the whole time you were discussing the rules in Islam, and how barbaric they are. And me giving example, and trying to make you understand that other countries have the same rules.

Weren't we still talking about Allah, who is a superman, drowning the Egyptian army?

Here we have you again, not paying attention. I find it funny, how you immediately insult somebody for not paying attention, yet you do it so often yourself.

The difference between individuals and religion is that religion causes the action. An American troop shoots an innocent and collects it's toes as trophies? That was simply an insane individual. If he where part of the French army, the British army, or just a civilian, he would have done the same thing. His status as a soldier for America doesn't change anything.

how come, people are insane individuals when it comes to countries, but as soon the individual person is a muslim, suddenly it all Islams fault.

But the religion? If a terrorist blows himself up, he would not do it unless he was completely and utterly dedicated to his cause. And he would not do that without his insane religion. Or are you saying he would blow himself up if he was an atheist?

Yes, he would blow himself even if he was an atheist. Let me tell you something, that most Americans dont get.

A terrorist fight for hes political cause, no matter if he is religious or not. That why there is also non religious terrorists, and it alone should be prove enough that it has nothing to do with religion.
Here is how a terrorist think, who happens to be religious. He take advantage of him being religious to fool the enemy(in this case Americans) He attacks for hes political cause, but makes it look like it religions fault. Which make the enemy believe it actually the religions fault. And this way, the enemy will drag the entire religion into the conflict.
I bet you still dont get what I am saying, so I try to explain in another way.
The terrorist organization are not even related to the religion and the religion is against it, but the terrorists make the Americans believe that the religion is related. Which make the Americans drag the religion into the conflict.

*Clap clap clap* Nice reading. Since that is obviously what is happening. Since every one who posted on this sight has been Christian, especially the ones arguing against the Muslims. Especially in the last few pages. Way to pay attention.

*clap clap* to you, nice reading, since he clearly says that.
What danielo trying to say is, that you turn the entire religion into something barbaric, as soon you read a word kill in it. Which is true.

And am I the only one who thinks it is OK to call people out when their religion says "Go slit the necks of the nonbelievers!"?

no, you are the only one who misread it in a degree, that is hard to believe. It almost like you read only 3 words of the entire text.

Since that is obviously what happens. Way to actually read what is being written.

It is what you wrote, so please for the next time, read what you write.

 
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