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Is homosexuality right or wrong?

Posted Mar 26, '12 at 3:50am

Deathless950

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Is homosexuality right or wrong?

Define right or wrong

 

Posted Mar 26, '12 at 3:58am

nichodemus

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I know, but there are only a handful of those places.

Er.....no. 76 countries still list homosexuality as a crime, and 5 punish them by death. And only roughly 10, give or take a few have legalized same-sex marriage. So no, it is not a ''handful''. It still is a major problem.

 

Posted Mar 26, '12 at 1:02pm

freethinkercro

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OP "I think homosexuality is totally wrong and unnatural, what do you think?"

I think you are thinking in a normal heterosexual way.

A persons morality decides whether homosexuality is right or wrong & results will vary from person to person, but homosexuality is not unnatural.

As you are (now)aware homosexuality is perfect natural(also normal) in many parts of the animal kingdom & especially amongst Bonobo Apes.

However does this make this prove homosexuality right? No,it is still an individual judgement dependant on morality/ethics.

To focus on Bonobo Apes;
Parties of Bonobo males also "'patrol' for the unfortunate neighbouring males that might be travelling alone, and attack those single males, often killing them.". Bonobo apes are not perfect.

To draw a long bow;
Some animals & humans(usually children) also eat faeces (excrement expelled through the anus or cloaca during defecation).

Who am I to judge or impose my morals on them?

Let them eat until their bellies are full, but not at my dinner table   please.

 

Posted Mar 26, '12 at 1:19pm

Pixie214

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Though this interview on 10 O'Clock Live was intertesting. A homosexual who seemed to be very unhappy in his own skin.

It's sad that we've got too the 21st century with these with societies around the world still condemning homosexuality. The distinction between cicil rights and amrriage brought up in the video is interesting though. Legally they are the same thing. Personally I think Catholics should back down and accept marriage includes hommosexual ones. But I can see how their beliefs are being attacked (even if I don't shre their beliefs).

 

Posted Mar 26, '12 at 3:23pm

cjhall

cjhall

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I don't think the question is very good. It doesn't matter who you love, you still love the person, right? Love is not right or wrong, it just is.

Over the weekend, I met a guy who had a boyfriend. I didn't know when I first started talking to him. He was very nice. I found out, and it didn't matter to me, because he was one of the sweetest guys I have ever met.

So you shouldn't judge someone because of whose hand they hold, get to know the person first.

 

Posted Mar 26, '12 at 4:29pm

thebluerabbit

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But I can see how their beliefs are being attacked (even if I don't shre their beliefs).

how is it attacking their beliefs if they arent forcing them to acknowledge the mariage in a christian way. im guessing gays want to be known as married by the state and wouldnt care at all what the religious people see them as. mariage isnt something religious anymore.

think about it this way. a bar mitzvah is something strictly religious for jews. obviously, non-jews wont do it and probably dont want to do it either. but what if youd gain certain rights and be seen as something different by the state only if you had a bar-mitzvah? the fact they dont share their belief doesnt mean they attack it and if marriage WAS just a religious thing i would understand the religious argument.

 

Posted Mar 26, '12 at 5:50pm

Pixie214

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how is it attacking their beliefs if they arent forcing them to acknowledge the mariage in a christian way. im guessing gays want to be known as married by the state and wouldnt care at all what the religious people see them as. mariage isnt something religious anymore.

A civil union isn't religious.... the thing people have been talking about in the news recently is whether they should be allowed to marry. That is what figures in the catholic church are upset about. Marriage is religious, just look at the Catholic vows: "May the Lord in his goodness strengthen your consent and fill you both with his blessings. That God has joined, men must not divide. Amen". Catholics think marriage is sacred and therefore it's not ok for homosexuals to marry. Personally I think they need to move with the times but then they would be rubbish Catholics.

 

Posted Mar 26, '12 at 6:11pm

NoNameC68

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A civil union isn't religious.... the thing people have been talking about in the news recently is whether they should be allowed to marry. That is what figures in the catholic church are upset about. Marriage is religious, just look at the Catholic vows: "May the Lord in his goodness strengthen your consent and fill you both with his blessings.

Those are just catholic vows. Just because catholics talk about marriage in their book doesn't mean that their book is the definition of marriage.

But even if marriage is wholly religious, then why is it only wrong for gays to get married? Why is it okay for atheists to get married?

 

Posted Mar 26, '12 at 9:14pm

Kasic

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Christianity didn't even come up with the idea of marriage. Even if they had, that still doesn't give them the right to deny people it.

Now, the marriage ceremony that we currently use may have religious origins, but that doesn't make anyone who gets "married" under different words/oaths any less married. A marriage is two consenting adults wanting to be recognized as officially together, quite simply.

 

Posted Mar 27, '12 at 5:52am

Pixie214

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but that doesn't make anyone who gets "married" under different words/oaths any less married.

True, and as they said in the video I linked too there isn't much clamour in the gay community for marriage (when they have civil partnerships obviously). As David Mitchell asked, is it unnnecasarily enflaming to make it an issue? I think it is, if only too try and modernise Catholicism a little.

Those are just catholic vows

And I was only talking about Catholic marriage. I can't for hte life of me imagine why an atheist would want a Catholic ceremony though. And I wouldn't imagine a Catholic priest would marry two atheists.

 
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