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What do You think about bulling? i get bullied myself and it's not fun Plz reply what you think about it because it cause suicide,people bring knives and guns to school, and it just hurts them. What do you think? Don't be scared to stand up, Speak Up!

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The underhand strike at India is entirely uncalled for. Regardless of what your issues as a Pakistani are with them, it does nothing to forward your argument and makes you look like an arse.

It is not a underhand strike you cigarette butt. I was highliting the difference.
Does it never occur to anyone that refusing to have authority take a role in bullying only furthers the system of violence? If a bully knows he has free reign so long as he can continue to beat up the victim, why would he ever stop? The Pakistani system is broken in this regard.

I am happy it is this way, it toughens you up.
Later in life, it really does help you in sticky situation.
The only thing separating us from common animals is our ability to seek out diplomatic solutions to such occurrences. Resorting to violence makes you nothing more than a thuggish brute, incapable of higher order thinking. It's pathetic.

First of all, there are many occasions where violence is the only way, you can't just waggle your tounge and walk out, its not a bloody rpg.
All I say is violence is reality, you can't live life without any violence if you think you can, let me tell you that it is just imagination of your hippy mind.
In simple Words, that thought of yours is BS.
You know who you remind me of?
this guy
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I meant this guy

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The Punisher is really right, Theres a crime show which i watch on my satelite T.v and it shows Crime in India and as you can see all of them are kinda related to Bullying with the boy commiting suicide lol

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pardon me for being a tinsy out of subject but if i can ask, what does all of you people meant with bullying? is it physical or psychological, or cyber-bullying, sadism, et cetera? is it a form of racism, enforced social equilibrium, or just a criminal act or a deviation? keep in mind that there are lots of bullying types and causes that neither all of you explain.

from what is see, there is no mention of cyber-bullying. that is also a very serious type of bullying. you can basically discredit someone, extort money from them, even sexually exploit via the internet them and the perpetrator getting away from it unscathed. in my opinion, that is an ever growing problem that is escalating out of control. someone needs to do something about it and fast.

no one also mention an extreme kind of bullying, sadism. in this case of bullying, the perpetrator actually enjoys the bullying as a kind of pleasure. in other words, they bully other people because they want to bully them. this type of bullying is also difficult to erase, because some people enjoys the act of bullying.

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It is not a underhand strike you cigarette butt. I was highliting the difference.


If you're going to insult me, please use better insults. They invented search engines for a reason, you know.

Because it's not like Pakistan and India have has major political issues with each other in the last 50 years, or have vastly differing religious institutions, or have a major source of contention in the ideologies of Islam vs Hinduism, or anything like that. I'm sure you just randomly picked a country, and India happened to pop up. /sarcasm


I am happy it is this way, it toughens you up.
Later in life, it really does help you in sticky situation.


You're quite base in your thinking if you seriously think that.

First of all, there are many occasions where violence is the only way, you can't just waggle your tounge and walk out, its not a bloody rpg.
All I say is violence is reality, you can't live life without any violence if you think you can, let me tell you that it is just imagination of your hippy mind.


I'm glad to see my point when right over your head. And please don't insult the hilpies. They're quite nice actually, once you get to know them.

In simple Words, that thought of yours is BS.


So what does that make yours, hmmm?

You know who you remind me of?
this guy


And Sylvester Stalone has what to do with this, exactly?

And lastly, please do go and try to learn to troll. I much enjoy having my food kicking and squirming when I bite down on it, but this is just pathetic.
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The Punisher is really right, Theres a crime show which i watch on my satelite T.v and it shows Crime in India and as you can see all of them are kinda related to Bullying with the boy commiting suicide lol


Oh right! Because television is just a perfect example for how we ought to run our lives! You're quite the logician, you!
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If you're going to insult me, please use better insults. They invented search engines for a reason, you know.

Because it's not like Pakistan and India have has major political issues with each other in the last 50 years, or have vastly differing religious institutions, or have a major source of contention in the ideologies of Islam vs Hinduism, or anything like that. I'm sure you just randomly picked a country, and India happened to pop up. /sarcasm

First of all, this is a pg13 forum so I have to se pg 13 language, so i am being mildly insulting rather than out right offensive.
secondly go do your research before accusing me of an underhand strike They invented search engines for a reason you know.
You're quite base in your thinking if you seriously think that.

For occassions like this I wish AG forums were uncensord.
I'm glad to see my point when right over your head.

Oh, you can not be more wrong, I think the opposite has happenned.
May be this Idiom will help you understand my point better.
"Speak softly, but carry a stick."
I don't disdain Diplomacy but after all we are animals but for ability to speak and some of us only learn to respect the word of those supirior than them. .
And please don't insult the hilpies. They're quite nice actually, once you get to know them.

So you agree that comparing you to a social group is akin to insulting them?

So what does that make yours, hmmm?

The ultimate truth.
And Sylvester Stalone has what to do with this, exactly?

refer to the second post.
this one
I meant this guy

And lastly, please do go and try to learn to troll. I much enjoy having my food kicking and squirming when I bite down on it, but this is just pathetic.

Baby boy if I were rolling, you would have run to a mod by now.
But be warned, this attitude of your's sure does attract trolling.
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if I were rolling

I meant trolling.
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"Speak softly, but carry a stick."


I don't think the logical conclusion of that saying is to brag about beating people up on a bullying forum. Your posts have degenerated into nothing more but flinging insults at someone who's argument is completely over your head. Just look at the content of your last post.

First of all, this is a pg13 forum so I have to se pg 13 language, so i am being mildly insulting rather than out right offensive.
secondly go do your research before accusing me of an underhand strike They invented search engines for a reason you know.


You're doing nothing here but trying (and failing) to justify poor language. Insulting someone does not credit your argument, but instead makes you look like a fool who doesn't have any way to defend his opinion. And then, throwing his words back in his face simply proves his point about not having any proper insults, if you do so choose to go down that route.

For occassions like this I wish AG forums were uncensord.


This does nothing to contribute to the conversation, and just makes you look like a ranting, cursing, fool.

I don't disdain Diplomacy but after all we are animals


Someone who thinks that basically, I'm afraid, is doomed never to rise to higher thinking.

If you don't have enough dignity to rise above your animalese instincts and control your anger in these situations, then how could you say we're being soft? Its simply you being barbaric. Do you think the members of the UN council get together for a battle royale to determine foreign policies? No. They discuss issues and (try) to reach a logical conclusion. That's what civilized peoples do.

Baby boy if I were rolling, you would have run to a mod by now.
But be warned, this attitude of your's sure does attract trolling


Trolling is defined as deliberate provocation. Seeing as your posts have turned from any logical argument to random insults and attempts at baiting Mav, I'd say he's spot on.
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Oh come on. Give Punisher a break.

Fighting is a legitimit way to stop bullying. Sometimes you have to fight.

I am a weak person. Yea, me, Danielo you all know and adore, have less muscle then a bannana. But yet, i fought 3 times. 1- against a bully. 2- against a brag off *** who thought picking on me infront of his buddies will be funny and 3 - against a *** who start bullying a kid in the bus stop.
Am i a bully?

No.

So does Punisher. He punished (its funny cuz his name is punisher) the person who threaten him. His only mistake is that he use words you dont like to hear. He talk about self estime and reputation, not on being a cutt throat or a strong arm.

If every countrey will go to cty to the UN and wait for them to say no to this countrey, well, they wont end well. A teacher cant guard you.

Ill tell a story. Two manes walked into the mountains. Suddenly two pumass jumped infront of them. One called to the animal center of the area, prayed to god to vanish the puma, begged her (yea its a female ok?) to leave him alone, then waited for the puma to go away.

The other one start yelling at the puma, enlarged himself as much as he could and when time as come, fought back.

Both died.
Luckily, a bully mostly wont kill you.

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Both died.

HAHAHA
I'll gladly be the second mare(i'll prefer to be a stallion but what ze hell)
Also, its not that i am a wrecking ball, I have on many occassions paid gravely for standing up for myself, but I would not have it any other way .
I don't think the logical conclusion of that saying is to brag about beating people up on a bullying forum. Your posts have degenerated into nothing more but flinging insults at someone who's argument is completely over your head. Just look at the content of your last post.

Here is a story for you.
A guy, very strong guy used to bully me and one day it went from verbal to physical.
Remember the first fight in dark knight rises?
it went that way.
Except for broken back.
I was batman
but after wards, he left me alone.
Its not about burying your oppnent, its about sending a message.
You're doing nothing here but trying (and failing) to justify poor language. Insulting someone does not credit your argument, but instead makes you look like a fool who doesn't have any way to defend his opinion. And then, throwing his words back in his face simply proves his point about not having any proper insults, if you do so choose to go down that route.

well if you don't have amnesia and hay for brain, you should be able to see that he attacked me first on just an assumption without any research.
This does nothing to contribute to the conversation, and just makes you look like a ranting, cursing, fool.

He called me base, he is to be blamed here if a flame war starts.
Someone who thinks that basically, I'm afraid, is doomed never to rise to higher thinking.

If you don't have enough dignity to rise above your animalese instincts and control your anger in these situations, then how could you say we're being soft? Its simply you being barbaric.

Are you really this naive or being a self righteous prick?
Trolling is defined as deliberate provocation. Seeing as your posts have turned from any logical argument to random insults and attempts at baiting Mav, I'd say he's spot on.

You have just made up your mind about me being a troll and are trying very hard to prove it.
You are specificaly trying to find any thing to call me atroll.
After all its you who said


I think the Punisher is just a troll, honestly. Like, his posts have content, but he doesn't understand the concept of debate.
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Its not about burying your oppnent, its about sending a message.


No, it's really not. You're starting to seem like more and more of an anarchist as this conversation continues. Simply put, you're someone who doesn't posses enough lingual skill to resolve issues with others, and must resort to violence to assert or defend yourself. That's how you appear, and until you realize that and attempt to change your argument that is how you will continue to appear.

you should be able to see that he attacked me first on just an assumption without any research.


I've been following the debate; I wouldn't be commenting otherwise. And Maverick was simply pointing out the flaws in your argument in a logical fashion; that your entire argument is based on a tunnel vision opinion that you have to throw your fists at any problem you face. You're the one who called him a "cigarette butt", you're the one who said he had a "hippy mind", and you're the one reiterating his own words because you're apparently run out of the insults that fuel your argument.

He called me base, he is to be blamed here if a flame war starts.


His referral to you as "base" wasn't just an empty insult. It was an attempt to get you to realize you were acting beneath your human nature. That's the entire side of the debate you're failing to see. You've thrown diplomacy out the window.

After all its you who said


And you've done nothing but reinforce my words, to be honest. I see nothing less than truth in that statement. In fact, you should view it as a compliment that I don't simply think you're pulling everyone's leg; I understand your argument and know you're legitimately trying to prove your point, you're just being close-minded and unwilling to listen to other's views.



The original issue in and of itself, bullying, can not be solved by simply punching back when you're provoked. But that does not mean it is never a viable option. Bullying is a serious issue, one that requires attention from administrative figures, cooperation from parents, and understanding from both bullies and bullied. "When fighting back is the only option" may be a phrase used often in this debate, but the fact is that fighting back is often not the only option. That's where I form my opinion of your argument, Punisher. When all you do is warmonger and insist upon self-defense as the answer, it makes me think you perhaps want to fight more than you're willing to let on. And that makes you the bully.

Tell an authority figure. Maybe that doesn't always work, but this isn't a Nickelodeon commercial; a teacher can confront the bully, give you advice, or inform an administrator.

Imagine this is put into the context of Armor Games. What are moderators and administrators even promoted for? To preserve and help the community. Imagine if you were being harassed in some way on the site; what would other's impression of you be if you were to simply respond snidely and begin to fight back, trying to handle yourself? You would just appear as asinine and immature. But what if you were to inform someone who could handle the situation accordingly? You would seem proactive and intelligent. See, putting this issue into context is important, to understand why "fighting back" is simply not the best option.
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Imagine this is put into the context of Armor Games. What are moderators and administrators even promoted for? To preserve and help the community. Imagine if you were being harassed in some way on the site; what would other's impression of you be if you were to simply respond snidely and begin to fight back, trying to handle yourself? You would just appear as asinine and immature. But what if you were to inform someone who could handle the situation accordingly? You would seem proactive and intelligent. See, putting this issue into context is important, to understand why "fighting back" is simply not the best option.


Of course, his answer would be to have the living locations of all users in their profile, so anyone who talks bad about him can expect a visit from a thug or something. You know, so they won't do it again, because he tried his best to avoid a fight but the other person just wouldn't quit insulting him.
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Its not about burying your oppnent, its about sending a message.

No, it's really not. You're starting to seem like more and more of an anarchist as this conversation continues. Simply put, you're someone who doesn't posses enough lingual skill to resolve issues with others, and must resort to violence to assert or defend yourself. That's how you appear, and until you realize that and attempt to change your argument that is how you will continue to appear.

you should be able to see that he attacked me first on just an assumption without any research.

I've been following the debate; I wouldn't be commenting otherwise. And Maverick was simply pointing out the flaws in your argument in a logical fashion; that your entire argument is based on a tunnel vision opinion that you have to throw your fists at any problem you face. You're the one who called him a "cigarette butt", you're the one who said he had a "hippy mind", and you're the one reiterating his own words because you're apparently run out of the insults that fuel your argument.

He called me base, he is to be blamed here if a flame war starts.

His referral to you as "base" wasn't just an empty insult. It was an attempt to get you to realize you were acting beneath your human nature. That's the entire side of the debate you're failing to see. You've thrown diplomacy out the window.

After all its you who said

And you've done nothing but reinforce my words, to be honest. I see nothing less than truth in that statement. In fact, you should view it as a compliment that I don't simply think you're pulling everyone's leg; I understand your argument and know you're legitimately trying to prove your point, you're just being close-minded and unwilling to listen to other's views.

The original issue in and of itself, bullying, can not be solved by simply punching back when you're provoked. But that does not mean it is never a viable option. Bullying is a serious issue, one that requires attention from administrative figures, cooperation from parents, and understanding from both bullies and bullied. "When fighting back is the only option" may be a phrase used often in this debate, but the fact is that fighting back is often not the only option. That's where I form my opinion of your argument, Punisher. When all you do is warmonger and insist upon self-defense as the answer, it makes me think you perhaps want to fight more than you're willing to let on. And that makes you the bully.

Tell an authority figure. Maybe that doesn't always work, but this isn't a Nickelodeon commercial; a teacher can confront the bully, give you advice, or inform an administrator.

Imagine this is put into the context of Armor Games. What are moderators and administrators even promoted for? To preserve and help the community. Imagine if you were being harassed in some way on the site; what would other's impression of you be if you were to simply respond snidely and begin to fight back, trying to handle yourself? You would just appear as asinine and immature. But what if you were to inform someone who could handle the situation accordingly? You would seem proactive and intelligent. See, putting this issue into context is important, to understand why "fighting back" is simply not the best option.

What can I do when other side uses *** bakwards logic?
I am done with this conversation,
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Nurvana, the fact that punisher have a diffrunte opinion dosent make him a troll.
The problme is communication problmes. Punisher is quite.. ammm... hot tempered. So just calm down and dont try to insult him or acuse him for things he dosent meant.

Ill summery -
Sometimes you must make a stand. Animal that run is a prey. Only if you will learn to protect yourself, to stand for yourself, you will be able to go to the outside world.
Im in the army. Most of the guys are cool and friendly. The drivers are less. They are brutes who curse non-stop and always loom for troubles. If you will be affraid of them, act like, well, i used to act at the begginig of high school, they would bully me. But ive gain EXP in highschool for things like that. I know how not to be scared.

Basicly, its how to talk with other peoples who are diffrunte from you.


And for Kennethhartanto - you cant habdle these ****ers. They are just messed up. Something not ok with them. You have to confront them right away or they will enjoy it.
Basicly, they kind off mark you as a game. If you are marked, its quite a dead end. They will try to interact with you. You have to fight thwm, but if its pass a line (Dont even dare to let it pass sexual abusing, but pyshical violence, theft and threats are my red lines). Then tell (in this order) - your friends [and break the nerdy wall of "not talking about getting bullied" {belive me, i was there}, your parents [share everything, dont drop it like a bomb. Let them inderstand the situation], a non- involved teacher [someone you trust, and can easily talk to], then to a semi invovled person who can do something, like councellor or something like that. Only then to your main teacher.
Its importent to move step by step so you will be fully in control and know 'wher you stand'. Your friends can support you. And yes, Internet friends count

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