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Posted Jun 3, '08 at 4:36pm
Eric_Cartman
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i love emos, they are so hot!
unfortunatly i dont know any :(
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Posted Jun 3, '08 at 5:55pm
Alguzara
545 posts
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"That's what I see from emo's. If you think about suicide, don't go complain about how terrible life is. Go get help. If you cut yourself, get help. If you're depressed all the time, get help. But going around and complaining about how terrible the world is will get you no sympathy."
That is what personally helped most.
Now i have a better look of myself and my life...
My family...:'( I want to cry , really >_<.
THANKS!
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Posted Jun 4, '08 at 9:06am
hitemup
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emo's are whiny, self-absorbed fruitcakes. the guys need to sack up and get laid. if u cut or think about suicide then u have a serious problem and need to talk to someone about it. labeling urself as "emo" isnt gonna change anything. cmon its time for a reality check. this is starting to get out of hand
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Posted Jun 4, '08 at 10:01am
Strop
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@ Hojoko: Chill, I understand what you're saying, but I just wanted to make sure that the right words were used so people wouldn't get confused. I mean...we're all emotional people in that we have emotions, but not all of us are necessarily mentally ill people, yeah?
thelistman wrote:
"I'm sad because I grew up in the suburbs with nice parents who made tons of money and I was given everything I wanted."
This kinda sums it up very well. But let's really think about it for a moment- somebody is complaining, when they should have everything, right?
You know what that means? If somebody was actually happy then they wouldn't be complaining, right? So if somebody is complaining, this means they aren't happy, right?
So what does this mean? Being given everything doesn't make you happy. Duh.
I personally think that the broad problem here is that parenting as a whole is getting further from the mark. In a frantic rush to pander to the perfect child, society as a whole has forgotten the truth of the seemingly paradoxical value of conflict in development, and mollycoddled kids into a wholesale state of mental malaise. It's like nobody really knows how to 'keep it real' so they flail about trying to find it through saying words, when in fact this 'real' is something that simply eludes their entire world.
This is in fact the most compelling explanation for people who cut- they either feel inadequate and must atone, or they feel detached and affectless, and cutting is the only thing that tells them that everything is actually real. Self-harm and suicide can also happen in situations where a person is distressed due to perceiving that there is 'no other way out'.
If you haven't been in that position, consider that you don't know what the state feels like before you make any judgments about it.
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Posted Jun 4, '08 at 10:58am
LeMisery
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personally, i think being "emo" is just another one of those stereotypical labels people want to have; like punk and goth. i know there`s a fashion trend but seriously, people who complain about their lives and think about suicide 24/7 isn`t the way to go. might as well do something to change it then label yourselves "emo" just to fit in.
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Posted Jun 4, '08 at 5:46pm
crimsonblade55
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well for me I'm actuall friends with a whole load of goths and emos but one thing I've noticed with alot of them is that they all either have mean parents, single parents, listened to negative things that people said to them all the time and took it to heart, wanted to be popular, or they just gave up. I never have thought of cutting myself or anything like that, but have seen people throw their lives away for the dumbest of reasons, and sometimes because of someone elses mistakes, point is "emo" even though it is usually labeled as suicidal its actual meaning was originally used for people who were over emotional, and has been twisted into the idea that anyone who has emotional problems are "emo".
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Posted Jun 4, '08 at 5:51pm
jalex12
197 posts
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there is a girl in my school who is always teased because she is thought to be emo. It makes me outraged how people could do that! The people that tease emos are usually emo. They need to get lives!
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Posted Jun 4, '08 at 10:39pm
SkullZero1
517 posts
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Being emo is a bad way to express your feelings, when i get happy, i smile, laugh and other stuff like that. When i get sad, i frown, i feel bad on the inside, and i express it in an acceptable way. When you get sad, and you feel the only way to express your emotion is to cut yourself or even consider suicide, you need to seek help, because your dealing with your emotions in the wrong way. Im not blaming you for it, most emos can't help it. But many therapist can.
as for groups like emos, skaters, jocks ect trying to find their individuality through these groups, i think that is TOTAL BS! You want to find your individuality by being like everybody else? oh come on, that has to be the most oxymoronic thing i heard. You know how i classify myself? I don't because i dont really fit in to anything. Thats being an individual. And dont think that that necessarily mean you wont have friends. I have plenty friends, some of them not in any classification, some in that are in some. I managed to be different yet be accepted. If being yourself means you wont be accepted, then i personally dont want to be accepted. I don't find most classifications to bother me, however, the only ones that seem to bother me would be jerk and the 'i act stupid because i think its funny, even though im not stupid' (sorry for a lack of a better word), but thats only natural.
I think people should just act themselves and not care what others think, and if your natural emo, jock, skater or whatever, then thats who you are, not what you made yourself to be accepted.
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Posted Jun 5, '08 at 7:39am
Strop
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Now there's a sensible post.
I'll cut straight to the chase- labels relate to values. We try to ascribe a value to labels. But kids tend to mistreat this: they try to subscribe to the label that carries the value. But this is natural, seeing as this just so happens to be a time when people are trying to define their values.
Ultimately, if you want to be accepted as a valid person yet still be individual, you should come to know your values. Jumping into various social groups happens to be a starting point for many, but in general, most will end up growing out of this as they come to recognise themselves on their own terms.
At least, since we encourage individuality, we should be encouraging such.
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Posted Jun 5, '08 at 12:12pm
jwalshjr
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Wow, well said Strop.
On a similar note to Skullzero's post on the previous page, groups are a lot of nothing. So what if your in the popular group, so what if everyone likes you, or everyone fears you. They aren't always liking you for the right reasons. When your the most popular, your really usually the person with the least friends. A lot of the time, people just act like they like them, just to fit in. Really, you should express yourself however you feel fit, but thoughts of suicide, and/or homicide, shouldn't be it.
I don't think thoughts like this should occur. Everybody can make a difference in any single persons life, in whichever way they want. I advise everyone that they should try to take advantage of their own lives, not others. No matter were you are in society, or a social status now, you can change that, and make a positive difference in peoples lives, help them, care for them, and love them, and if not love them, then love to be around them. Everyone can help people, no matter what!
And as of now, I feel like I'm starting to get into a senseless ramble, so I think that will be all for now.
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