but are not yet one.

I personally don't consider it human until it has gained the ability of long-term memory. Roughly three years.

If the mother's life is going to be ruined by having that child, or made substantially harder by it, or just plain not wanted, why should she not be able to make that choice for herself and not have that child?

I would respond to this in a quote from The Walking Dead:

"The logic is this... if the bear dies, the cub dies anyway. If the bear lives- it can always have another cub."

Felt it worked in this situation.

Oh, forgot this.

4) You have to realize that people who advocate for abortions don't advocate everyone going out and having orgies left and right in order to get pregnant so they can abort as many fetuses/babies as possible in their lifetime.

Someone's life shouldn't be ruined for making a mistake or bad choice that could have been fixed.

I personally don't consider it human until it has gained the ability of long-term memory. Roughly three years.

Well, it could be sooner.

I consider it living once it can fully understand and react to pain.

this could of been you, just saying.

this could of been you, just saying.

And we wouldn't have had the mind to care, would we?

this could of been you, just saying.

And if by not growing up, I had saved my mothers life or saved her from a life of misery, I'd be proud of it. If I could think at that stage, that is.

As Kasic said, we're not saying that women should be able to abort at their whim. It's still an operation that has risks for the woman too, as any operation. It needs reasoning. But it should be allowed if a reason can be evidenced.

Oh, and btw, everytime a couple breaks up before having a baby, I could also say "this could have been you". Ban break-ups, now!

this could of been you, just saying.

1st trimester makes it the equivalent of a tumor, nothing more. when you go beyond that is when ehtics kick in.

personally, abortion is a good thing, since it allows low income families to prevent going underwater. now if only we could get stupid people to start aborting, then our population problems would be solved.

-Blade

this could of been you, just saying.

and not having a developed a consciousness no one would miss being dead when they never lived.

why do people always make a big deal about Hitler, he wasn't the worst dictator ever, but he is the only one people will mention.

Godwin's law got love how accurate it is.

personally, abortion is a good thing, since it allows low income families to prevent going underwater. now if only we could get stupid people to start aborting, then our population problems would be solved.

Problem is that people with low IQ don't understand their situation and thus have more children where people with higher IQ do the exact opposite.

this could of been you, just saying.

And so could this! For that matter you could have ended up one of the millions that didn't make it into the egg at fertilization. The entire process of human conception MURDERS millions of potential people each time.

You're again trying to use a what if as a valid argument but with a plea to emotion.

Also for those using the tumor analogy.
Quest for Spoof: Aborted Tumors

Problem is that people with low IQ don't understand their situation and thus have more children where people with higher IQ do the exact opposite.

you know, you mentioning that reminded me of something else. Has anyone of you ever read the marching morons, the little black bag, or seen idiocracy. the "smart" people have decided they should never have kids, while the "dumb" people follow their instincts. The situation in those stories is coming, and at the rate it's going, I wouldn't be surprised if it happens in a few decades.

In that picture i posted, i don't see a tail, i see arms and legs and a smashed head, how does that look creepy?