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is abortion ok?

Posted Jan 9, '13 at 1:14am

Masterforger

Masterforger

1,621 posts

This is what it refers to. However, pro-life makes more sense because those who are pro-life, me included, consider the baby/fetus and life. And thus, should not be taken.

What makes you think you have any right or duty to say what a pregnant woman should do? Why should you be able to take away the power of human choice and freedom?

 

Posted Jan 9, '13 at 9:00am

Bobthebest

Bobthebest

28 posts

What makes you think you have any right or duty to say what a pregnant woman should do? Why should you be able to take away the power of human choice and freedom?

What gives you the right to say that you can take a life?

 

Posted Jan 9, '13 at 10:10am

Masterforger

Masterforger

1,621 posts

What gives you the right to say that you can take a life?

Step one: Read previous 51 pages.
Step two: Revoke your ill-thought out, dumb, and rather ignorant claims.

Have fun.

 

Posted Jan 9, '13 at 10:36am

Bobthebest

Bobthebest

28 posts

Step one: Read previous 51 pages.

51 pages of other peoples opinions. Don't see anybody giving out rights here.

 

Posted Jan 9, '13 at 10:56am

Masterforger

Masterforger

1,621 posts

51 pages of other peoples opinions. Don't see anybody giving out rights here.

51 pages of the logical people here crushing the stupid and ignorant thoughts of others. Tell me, why should you be able to say what a woman should do? And be quiet about the "killing a baby" BS, because that seems to be the only reason you people fight for the wrong ideals. Why should you be able to tell a woman who most likely cannot raise a child what to do? What if she's poor? What if she was *****? What if the child grows up knowing it was unwanted? What if the child goes to an overcrowded foster home?

 

Posted Jan 9, '13 at 11:12am

nichodemus

nichodemus

10,523 posts

If you're going to discuss with him why his stance is untenable, wouldn't it have been far better, convincing and nicer to just tell him the reasons, instead of asking him to read 51 pages a little curtly?

 

Posted Jan 9, '13 at 11:28am

Masterforger

Masterforger

1,621 posts

If you're going to discuss with him why his stance is untenable, wouldn't it have been far better, convincing and nicer to just tell him the reasons, instead of asking him to read 51 pages a little curtly?

I have listed the reasons. Just not with nicely minced words. I now know how partydevil feels.

 

Posted Jan 9, '13 at 12:26pm

Bobthebest

Bobthebest

28 posts

. Why should you be able to tell a woman who most likely cannot raise a child what to do? What if she's poor? What if she was *****? What if the child grows up knowing it was unwanted? What if the child goes to an overcrowded foster home?

There are plenty of loving families/couples who will adopt a baby and make them feel loved. I would know, I am friends with a couple of adopted kids.

 

Posted Jan 9, '13 at 1:17pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,159 posts

There are plenty of loving families/couples who will adopt a baby and make them feel loved. I would know, I am friends with a couple of adopted kids.

Sure there are.
There also aren't nearly enough. Adoption centers are often, to say the least, unpleasant and the foster care system is lacking. The entire thing is all around underfunded and over populated.

Why should a woman have to spend 9 months carrying around what is basically a parasite and then give birth to it if she doesn't want to?

What gives you the right to say that you can take a life?

What it comes down to is this.

Mother's rights.
Unborn child's rights.

The mother is a fully developed human being with social connections and emotions. She is capable of thought and feeling pain, and has the right in society to make decisions for herself.

The unborn child is, at best, a possible future human. It is not developed enough to live outside the mother and is incapable of feeling pain or thinking. Up to 7 weeks, it doesn't even have brain activity.

It seems fairly obvious to me that, at minimum, a woman should be able to choose to have an abortion, at the very least, 7 weeks after conception.

 

Posted Jan 9, '13 at 5:10pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

4,430 posts

What gives you the right to say that you can take a life?

Just thought I'd throw this out there again...every time a woman is on her period, there is a "loss of potential life". Every time a man ejaculates, there is a "loss of potential life"

 
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