The shedding of innocent blood, and because it is morally and ethically wrong, plus it is against the laws of the land to kill.

The shedding of innocent blood

same blood as the mother.

because it is morally and ethically wrong

it's neither morally or ethically wrong.
or is it morally and ethically wrong to mastrubate aswell?

plus it is against the laws of the land to kill.

except that abortion is not a kill.
it is aborting a natural process that might turn out to live in the future.
it is not alive in the 1st few stages.

The shedding of innocent blood, and because it is morally and ethically wrong, plus it is against the laws of the land to kill.

Uh huh. You know, a woman on her period is 'shedding innocent blood' and averting potential life. Solution? Keep her pregnant. NOTHING could possibly go wrong with the population!
Also, it is averting potential life if you masturbate. Should we ban this too?

The shedding of innocent blood,

The others have already mentioned.. it depends whose blood you mean, and what you mean by shedding. By that definition, squashing flies becomes a morally condemnable crime while choking a person to death is no problem.

and because it is morally and ethically wrong, plus it is against the laws of the land to kill.

Laws can be changed. Morals and ethics are probably the best reason you gave, although you still have to specify why it is morally and ethically wrong.

Sorry, of course you're right, if it is prohibited in your country to abort then that's a very good reason for individuals not to do it ;)

What I don't get is people who support abortion but not capital punishment. Oh yeah its cool to kill babies but not a grow adult who knowingly committed a crime.

What I don't get is people who support abortion but not capital punishment. Oh yeah its cool to kill babies but not a grow adult who knowingly committed a crime.

A red herring, if an interesting comparison. Most of the opposition that I support in regards to being against capital punishment is that the person may not be guilty and that the entire process cost exceeds paying for life in prison. It's not economical or ethical.

Whereas abortion, it's a developing person inside of another person. If the woman doesn't want that in her, to go through the nine months of pregnancy, social stigma, child-birthing and then recovery, not to mention either raising it or putting it up for adoption, I don't think it's right to force her to do such.

As we have said many times over the course of the thread, there are other reasons involved too.

Whereas abortion, it's a developing person inside of another person. If the woman doesn't want that in her, to go through the nine months of pregnancy, social stigma, child-birthing and then recovery, not to mention either raising it or putting it up for adoption, I don't think it's right to force her to do such.

It may be her body, but why does she have the right to destroy life, or the potential for life? If a woman doesnt want children, use protection or stay abstinent. It's not far to that life to say oh yeah i dont want you. As for the death penalty you didnt mention why it was not ethical. You are right about the economical reason, something I think needs to be change (give the convicted 1 chance to appeal). Even if it remains far more expensive then life in prison, money should not be more important then justice.

It may be her body, but why does she have the right to destroy life, or the potential for life?

Because it's growing in her. Because it can't survive outside of her. Because she's the one who has to lug it around. Because of exactly how much of a change it will make.

If a woman doesnt want children, use protection or stay abstinent.

If that fails? If she's *****? If she makes a stupid mistake? If the situation changes? If she finds out that it's going to have severe birth defects that will probably result in its early death? If it's going to have a life-impacting mental illness that will require her to take care of it for its entire life? If its found that a previously unknown of hereditary disease the parents carried was passed onto that child?

It's far too individual. No one should have the right to force a woman to go through with a pregnancy that she doesn't want. It should be her choice. I'm all for contraception and giving the mother options to help raise the child. But if she doesn't want it, well, that's her choice.

It's not far to that life to say oh yeah i dont want you.

That life won't ever know. It isn't aware. At the time for legal abortions, it is not conscious. It has no social attachments. It cannot survive outside the womb. As far as logical thought goes, it is the equivalent of a tumor that will eventually become a member of society if carried to term. I'm not saying it's not human, I'm saying that there's more than enough reason for it to be the woman's choice.

Now, if there were a way to remove the baby without scarring and let it continue to grow somehow if the mother didn't want it, I'd be advocating for that. Abortion is the best option and has no downsides other than the regretful loss of another potential human being, of which this planet could do with less of.

As for the death penalty you didnt mention why it was not ethical.

Because there's always the doubt that the accused is actually innocent, or could have been rehabilitated/contributed to society in some way.

money should not be more important then justice.

Why is killing someone for killing someone else justice? Then you have two dead people instead of one, or more. It doesn't make anything better. Eye for an eye leaves the world blind. Often said, but rarely followed. We want to appease our sense of outrage. Capital punishment is like giving a medal to a dead soldier, comfort for the people grieving. It doesn't actually change anything.

Because it's growing in her. Because it can't survive outside of her. Because she's the one who has to lug it around. Because of exactly how much of a change it will make.

An infant child can't survive on his/her own. Someone needs to take care of it. By your logic would be ok to kill that infant?

If she makes a stupid mistake?

She will know the consequences of her actions. If she truly doesn't want the child, give it up for adoption and hopefully she would ever make that mistake again.

If she finds out that it's going to have severe birth defects that will probably result in its early death?

I'm gonna give you that one because if that child is sickly or is endangering the mothers life then its better to be aborted.

If it's going to have a life-impacting mental illness that will require her to take care of it for its entire life?

So because it will have a life-impacting mental illness, it should be killed? Is this nazi germany were eugenics is practiced?

That life won't ever know. It isn't aware.

If i slit your throat in your sleep you wont be aware, but that doesnt mean i should kill you.

As far as logical thought goes, it is the equivalent of a tumor that will eventually become a member of society if carried to term.

A tumor  cant become a human life.

Now, if there were a way to remove the baby without scarring and let it continue to grow somehow if the mother didn't want it, I'd be advocating for that.

Adoption is an option. If that woman had consenual sex, she will have to bear those 9 months. Give up the child to an orphanage so he/she can at least have a life.

rehabilitated/contributed to society in some way.

Very few murderers contribute to society. Very few.

there's always the doubt that the accused is actually innocent

That is true, and I personally only support it in cases where guilt has been established. Out of curiosity, if someones guilt had been absolutely established and they committed a heinous act eg.(Sandy Hook, Aurora) and we lived in a society where money was not an issue, would you support the death penalty.

Why is killing someone for killing someone else justice?

Deterrence for future crimes, the removal of an evil and sadistic person from society, and justice for the family and friends of the victim(s) and the victim(s) himself/herself.

Eye for an eye leaves the world blind.

That murderer choose when his victim would die. His victim did not have a choice. His victim did not have a chance to live there life. Why should he.