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I'll get back to you on the sources, I want to read them all/check the studies they mention, but it's late and I'm about to head to bed.

And if they believe with all their heart that circumcision is the best thing for their child, why shouldn't they be able to?

Belief is not truth. Anyone could believe anything and do it for the best of intentions, that doesn't make their actions "right" or "good."

i dare say that we have reached a conclusion on the matter of law involving itself in the medical matters of anyone. although most of us seem to believe that a parent should not have the right to chop things off of their children, no matter how small, it also seems to be wrong for a government to step in and take direct control. anyone up for a compromise? maybe set an age of decision for any male child that wishes to choose for themselves. I would suggest 13 at the youngest. the only issue i can see is judaism, in which the removal of the prepuce is a commandment from god and has been done in infancy for thousands of years. i believe that the jews may be willing to compromise, but, being of jewish descent myself, i know personally that they have a bit of a problem being told what to do.

Seems about right, except that the formulation "for any male child that wishes to choose for themselves" doesn't really solve the problem and is too vague. Just set an age of decision, point, end. Under that age, no circumcision shall be performed except for medical reasons.

And if they believe with all their heart that circumcision is the best thing for their child, why shouldn't they be able to?

Then they have to go consult a specialist who will say whether it makes sense or not. Because again, parents can't know everything.

And stop making shady comparisons; circumcision is an operation like any other, which implies risks of complications like any other. Would you really agree that parents should be able to let their baby (baby!) have a piercing only because they think it's cool? I wouldn't. Same with any other invasive operation.

The thing in Germany got started exactly because there have been post-operational complications after a circumcision. It didn't come out of the blue.

Women are less likely to develop cervical cancer from a snipped partner.

Is this mentioned in one of the two links you posted? In which case I will read it carefully. Until now I don't believe such a causation has been definitely proven.

And if they believe with all their heart that circumcision is the best thing for their child, why shouldn't they be able to?

For the same reason those people who believe in their heart that their kids are witches and should drink poison.

Don't forget about the other person who may suffer from all this. Women are less likely to develop cervical cancer from a snipped partner. And it has been proven that uncircumcised men are more at risk for cancers and STD's, this can't be denied. So if someone ends up getting a disease of this sort, does this mean they get to blame their parents for this too?

Pretty much everything you mentioned would most affect a sexually active adult male. So why is not up to the sexually active adult male to decide. (or the sexually active teen). I can't see any benefit cicumcision could have on your child while they still are a child. This is something that affects them into their teen and adult life, so why don't they get to decide when they are actually teens or adults? I see no reason why a parent must decide for them, or why a parent has any right to decide for them. I found this link, and I thought it was intresting. It had positive and negative recations to circumcision in the comments, and supports a few claims from both sides.