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navysealmike
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So people don't ignore this, I'm not mentally unstable, I don't have any issues with my brain, and I didn't get abducted by aliens! I'm just here to show people SCIENTIFIC PROOF that the world will not end on December 21st, 2012. I've talked to multiple people on these forums, and many others and they still believe in the whole "mayan calender ending in 2012 apocalypse" BS. Let me start out with the facts.

1) Mayan Calender: The Mayan long count is a non-repeating, vigesimal (base-20) and base-18 calendar used by several Pre-Columbian Mesoamerican cultures, most notably the Maya. The way it works is that after 584,283 it comes to an end and a new one starts. Just like our calendar ends 31st December, changes the year and starts again on the 1st of January. This in principle is how the Mayan calendar works. Currently the Mayan long count is at 12.19.19.16.10 and come December 21st, 2012, it will become 13.0.0.0.0 so that's 13 cycles since this calender was put into play. It's like the odometer being reset on your car, the car is still there, but the numbers are reset. Nothing is changed, nothing happens, it's just a Baktun 14 starts. The date was used by psuedo-scientists, who aren't scientists at all.

2) Nibiru (Planet X): This theory is simply idiotic. The crazy people that believe this planet is going to crash into Earth, should be locked in an insane asylum. Let me just point out the obvious, it's November 21st, 2012, 1 month from the apparent impact, but yet this (non-existent) planet is not visible. Surely, if a planet 10-times the size of Earth was coming towards us, it would be visible by the naked-eye, and from telescopes all around the world. It's not! Some other theories are, that it has a 3600-year orbit around the sun. So does that mean it (non-existent planet) hits Earth every 3600 years? I'm pretty sure people have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, and our planet has been around for billions of years. This theory is just stupid, and there is NO scientific proof of it's existence, because, IT DOESN'T EXIST!

3) Asteroids, Meteors, Comets: I'll keep this one short, because this we can't really rebut. The Earth has been hit by asteroids, and meteors in the past. We cannot simply say that the Earth won't get bombarded again, but as of now, no near-Earth objects (NEO) will have any impact of our lives for the next few decades. I know, decades, very short period of time, but NASA is experimenting ways for us to avoid being the target of a fierce NEO.

4) Earthquakes, Volcanic Eruptions, Tsunamis: Again, we cannot rebut this one either. These things happen all of the time, but the Earth is in a mid-life crisis, no pun intended. The tectonic plates are moving, sliding, crashing all of the time. It's not abnormal, it's been happening for millions of years. As of now, seismic activity, volcanoes, and anything of that nature at it's norm. Surely if something catastrophic was to happen, we would have some signs by now? To believe in a massive tsunami the size of Texas, is just stupid.

5) Past D-Days: December 21, 2012 - This isn't the first date of an apparent doomsday, and it won't be the last. December 31st, 1999 - January 1st, 2000 - This date is important, because it was the first year we ever had a "2000". Disregard any of the apparent and BS rumors during that time, people just assumed because we've never seen a "2000" before, the world must end! RIGHT!? No! Then in May 2003, Nancy Lieder (she was abducted by Zeta Aliens, and they told her about "nibiru&quot told people Nibiru would impact Earth in May of 2003. This didn't happen, so these Leider-followers researched the Mayan Calender, changed the name of their websites, and changed the date the world would end. First, it was November 21st, 2011, well we're still alive and it's a year after that. Then it was November 19th, 2012, well it's 21st, so let me guess.. nothing happened? Now it's December 21st, 2012. This date is the start of the Winter Solstice, that happens every year. Nothing abnormal will happen, the world will not end, and we will all have a great Christmas!

Stop stressing about something that is not remotely possible, relevant, or likely. Live your life, love your family, and have a great holiday season!

Regards,

Mike

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Hikakin_Fan
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I didnt even know that people thaought that there was going to be a dommsday on november 19th.I wonder why they made a show about this.

MageGrayWolf
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So this is based on the Maya calender ending at 2012?
Newly Discovered Mayan Calendar Goes Past 2012

partydevil
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So this is based on the Maya calender ending at 2012?

it is true they found other calendars earlier this year.
however,at the begin the article implies that the other calendar ended in 2012.
what it doesn't. and somewhere halfway, it said that some of the new calendars go to the year 3500. this is still not sure. calculations and hypothesises on how the calendars precisely work are still done.

will see if i can find a source for this info when i'm home.
partydevil
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mayans used calendars for nearly anything
they used most of them more as a agenda then a calendar tho.

MrStealth
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world is not going to end.
apocalypse mabey

MrStealth
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[b]| world is not going to end.
apocalypse

i doubt it

xAyjAy
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it happens when it happens. nobody (not even someone named nobody) can say when it will happen.

thepunisher93
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plz. specify jelly. i would think that if your inside is a jelly. that is pretty much fatal.

I meant
I mean inertia alone can't make your insides a jelly
dalang
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now is 16, and five days to go, we just can see what happens..

ptcdcs
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By the way, December 21, 2012 isn't just the end of the Mayan Calendar, it is also the day of The Galactic Alignment. This phenomena is the aligning of the Earth, Sun, and the Black Hole in the center of the Milky Way.

And, the Winter Solstice is also this day.

I do not believe in the "End of the World" theory, but I believe something will happen.

Masterforger
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I do not believe in the "End of the World" theory, but I believe something will happen.

That something being the Galactic Alignment and the end of the Mayan calendar.
ptcdcs
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Oh, and by the way, The Galactic Alignment only happens every 26,000 years and why the Mayan calendar "ends" on this date. Really, in just needs to go to the next b'ak'tun. The calendar itself (the complete series of 20 b'ak'tuns or one [/b]Piktun) ends on October 13, 4772, which oddly, is a Friday. (One b'ak'tun is 394 years)

The Maya believed that their world would end 63081429 solar years from their origin year (somewhere around 2000 BC). (This 63081429 year period is called one [b]Alautun
) They wrong in saying this because their world ended in 1546 AD, by the arrival of the Spanish.

HahiHa
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They wrong in saying this because their world ended in 1546 AD, by the arrival of the Spanish.

You're thinking of the Inka. There are still people of Mayan descendance today.
ptcdcs
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They're civilization was destroyed. Those people are not in direct connection of pure mayans

partydevil
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The Galactic Alignment

As we discuss in the Solstice Alignment page, a perfect alignment with the center of the galaxy is not possible. In the case of the black hole, this is even more significant since the claims of a perfect alignment are central to the various claims made about this event. The point in the sky at which the galactic latitude and longitude are both zero is 17h 45m 37.224s â'28° 56â² 10.23â³ (J2000). This is offset slightly from the radio source Sagittarius A*, which is the best physical marker of the true galactic center. Sagittarius A* is located at 17h 45m 40.04s â'29° 00â² 28.1â³ (J2000), or galactic longitude 359° 56â² 39.5â³, galactic latitude â'0° 2â² 46.3â³. On 12/21/2012 at 11:11 UT, the sun will be centered on 18h 00m 00s -23° 26â² 09â³. Therefore, the sun will not occlude the galactic black hole.

the Winter Solstice is also this day.

the Sun does not align with the H1 plane on the 2012 Winter Solstice.

One b'ak'tun is 394 years

1 bak'tun is 7885 year

394 year is 1 k'atuns.
20 k'atuns = 1 bak'tun = 7885 year.


This 63081429 year period is called one [b]Alautun

alawtun but oke.
however they never made a prediction. also not about their own end.

They wrong in saying this because their world ended in 1546 AD, by the arrival of the Spanish.

the spanish didn't kill the mayans.
the spanish killed the aztec and incas. the mayans died about a 1000 year befor the spanish arrived.
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