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boy scouts and their antigay campaign

Posted Feb 26, '13 at 5:43pm

Kasic

Kasic

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I think it's a good rule. It's just for the safety of the kids.


Implying that homosexuals are more dangerous than heterosexuals. It's discrimination, not safety. The very same arguments used against homosexuals were used against people with darker skin. It's safer if they're somewhere else. They don't deserve the same things. One is lesser than the other. They shouldn't go to certain places. Etc.
 

Posted Feb 26, '13 at 7:09pm

samiel

samiel

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Let's think about this gays+boy scouts= lawsuits it's not rocket science

 

Posted Feb 26, '13 at 7:25pm

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

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gays+boy scouts= lawsuits

*Child molesters of any sexual orientation + children = lawsuits. Gays have always been banned from boy scouts. Doesn't stop incidents.
 

Posted Feb 26, '13 at 8:15pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,750 posts

*Child molesters of any sexual orientation + children = lawsuits. Gays have always been banned from boy scouts. Doesn't stop incidents.


Amazing. It took two whole posts to revert back to the start.
 

Posted Feb 28, '13 at 9:35pm

samiel

samiel

424 posts

Some body maybe some kid says something to another kid and oh boy surprise surprise somebody gets offended thats what I meant by the way still not rocket science.

 

Posted Feb 28, '13 at 10:13pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,750 posts

Some body maybe some kid says something to another kid and oh boy surprise surprise somebody gets offended thats what I meant by the way still not rocket science.


Yes, that's a wonderful idea! Let's separate everyone who has stereotypical and discriminatory views to other people, but let's make it so that only those they're discriminating against are separated. Yeah, that's fair. Since there's more people discriminating than being discriminated against. Yup.

No. If a kid "says something to another kid and oh boy surprise surprise somebody gets offended," that's an issue of discrimination.
 

Posted Mar 1, '13 at 2:00am

Moe

Moe

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If a kid "says something to another kid and oh boy surprise surprise somebody gets offended," that's an issue of discrimination.


I don't think you even need to go to discrimination for that. I would tend to agree with Stephen Fry (assuming he did say this, I can't find a credible source):
"It's now very common to hear people say 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights; it's actually nothing more... it's simply a whine. It's no more than a whine. 'I find that offense,' it has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that,' well so ****ing what?"

While I wouldn't disagree with someone who got offended by someone deliberately trying to offend them, when they are offended by who or what a person is they are the ones in the wrong.
 

Posted Mar 1, '13 at 2:16am

Kasic

Kasic

5,750 posts

While I wouldn't disagree with someone who got offended by someone deliberately trying to offend them, when they are offended by who or what a person is they are the ones in the wrong.


Of course. Getting offended because someone does something is entirely different than being offended because someone is some way. I was going from the assumption that samiel meant someone getting offended because another person found out they were a homosexual, and thus gave that as an 'obvious' reason as to why homosexuals shouldn't be in scouts. Because bigots are offended by them.
 

Posted Mar 1, '13 at 6:47am

samiel

samiel

424 posts

I don't think you even need to go to discrimination for that. I would tend to agree with Stephen Fry (assuming he did say this, I can't find a credible source):
"It's now very common to hear people say 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights; it's actually nothing more... it's simply a whine. It's no more than a whine. 'I find that offense,' it has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that,' well so ****ing what?"

That is actualy one of my favorite quotes byt the way you probably couldn't tell but I had a bit of an angry sarcastic tone in mind

as to why homosexuals shouldn't be in scouts. Because bigots are offended by them.

piss off the bigots and everyone suffers just a little history leason keep in mind I don't like this at all I feel sorry for those children who can't be in the boy scouts but all I can do here is state facts such as the one above and in my first comment
 

Posted Mar 1, '13 at 12:07pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,750 posts

I don't like this at all I feel sorry for those children who can't be in the boy scouts


Then stop advocating discriminatory policies. People stop discriminating when they actually learn that the people they're discriminating against aren't lesser/evil/what they thought. By not allowed homosexuals into boy scouts, all that does is perpetuate the stereotype.

all I can do here is state facts such as the one above and in my first comment


You didn't really state any facts. All you did was say things should stay the same because some problems will probably occur at first.
 
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