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North Korea Vows to Nuke U.S.A.

Posted Mar 29, '13 at 7:27am

partydevil

partydevil

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Do you have alternative plans? If so, share them.

dont show muscle? seems kinda obvious to me.

just retaliate when needed.
no need to try to impress them. they are not going to be impressed. they just want to kick your *** harder for showing the muscle.

i dont have to show how strong i am. they can feel it when they hit me.
if i do show it, then that will only provoke people to test me. and it will turn out that i have more enemies then when i show nothing.

They have nothing to gain from attacking the US other than a war they could not comprehend,

showing the rest of the world to not play whit nk.
kim yong un needs to show the world that he is just as ruthless as his father was. untill now he is seen as a kid that might bring change. a point of view that nk does not want to have. they want to be feared.
 

Posted Mar 31, '13 at 5:53am

danielo

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Its somewhat like Iran. They claim that USA will fall and Israel will be crushed, but basicly they just bark. They whan that everyone with same goals will side them. They Diplomating this way, watching who answer what. Israel have nothing to do with Korea and yet they hate us and help our enemies. Why? Because we are a friend of an enemy, and our enemies are an enemie of a friend of an enemy.

 

Posted Mar 31, '13 at 1:16pm

Kasic

Kasic

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Well, the way things are going, I've officially changed my stance from tread lightly to strike first. They're becoming ever more belligerent and it's only a matter of time before they actually try to take it out on SK.

 

Posted Mar 31, '13 at 1:35pm

partydevil

partydevil

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Well, the way things are going, I've officially changed my stance from tread lightly to strike first. They're becoming ever more belligerent and it's only a matter of time before they actually try to take it out on SK.

they will at the 1st sign of offense from the enemy.
do a 1st strike now and your 100% sure of a war.
there is still no need for war.
 

Posted Mar 31, '13 at 1:55pm

Kasic

Kasic

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they will at the 1st sign of offense from the enemy.


Yes, but there's more benefit in catching them off guard. I doubt they believe anyone is going to do something right at this moment.

do a 1st strike now and your 100% sure of a war.


If a first strike could cripple their chain of command by taking out their leaders, it would be well worth it. They would be sure to be bunkered down somewhere when they're actually going to start something, so before that happens would be the best time to strike.

there is still no need for war.


Honestly, not only has it been a long time country, but the whole human rights thing already justifies it imo. We have plenty of evidence of the conditions the people of NK are subjected to under the dictatorship. Leaving them alone has been done only because of their alliances and volatile situation. If they're going to become aggressive now, then I see no reason to prolong the situation. All attempts at negotiation end in a stern rebuff or more threats and SK is constantly under a lot of tension.
 

Posted Mar 31, '13 at 1:57pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,750 posts

Honestly, not only has it been a long time country,


*coming.

Edit button, seriously. Every other forum out there has one. Instead of adding what gender we are in our profiles or modifying the timestamp, or changing where the pointless flag button is, let's add something useful next time, m'kay?
 

Posted Mar 31, '13 at 2:24pm

partydevil

partydevil

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Yes, but there's more benefit in catching them off guard. I doubt they believe anyone is going to do something right at this moment.

could be me but they dont seem to be off guard to me. they are prepared and ready. xD

If a first strike could cripple their chain of command by taking out their leaders, it would be well worth it. They would be sure to be bunkered down somewhere when they're actually going to start something, so before that happens would be the best time to strike.

can't speculate on that. we dunno where they are.
it might just aswell fail and then they have to right to retaliate and not you. then you started the war and they didn't.

but the whole human rights thing already justifies it imo.

not if they didn't sign any human rights recognition.

if we force our human rights on all other countries that do not have it. then a world war isn't far away.

for example do we have to invite turkey. they fail to improve their human rights to our standards for over 25 year already. thats the main reason why they still havn't been allowed in the EU.


Edit button,

comes whit AG3. they say for almost 4 year already. xD
(but how hard can it really be to add 1? -.-' )
 

Posted Mar 31, '13 at 2:52pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,750 posts

can't speculate on that. we dunno where they are.
it might just aswell fail and then they have to right to retaliate and not you. then you started the war and they didn't.


I understand that. I'm only speaking in the case that we were able to do such.

if we force our human rights on all other countries that do not have it. then a world war isn't far away.


Yes, again, I realize this. As I said, that is in part why NK is still an isolationist dictatorship.

All I'm saying is that if the current trend continues, NK is going to attack. I no longer hold the same view. There are times for negotiation and wariness, and there are times when holding to more honorable mores leads to innocents being harmed. Non aggression is only to be valued in moderation, because the right to stop those who would harm others for selfish, greedy, bigoted, insane reasons trumps the right for for one to choose their own path. That is the basis of self defense, and I believe that extends to before an attack is made. If one is aware of a threat and fails to prevent it by choosing inaction, they share the responsibility for the tragedy.

It's a narrow path to walk.
 

Posted Mar 31, '13 at 4:30pm

partydevil

partydevil

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It's a narrow path to walk.


i dont agree that it extends to befor an attack is made. you can prepare yourself to dodge, block or counter a attack. you dont have to hit 1st.

is this going to be like "we saved nk civilians by rallying them for a putsch"?
these civilians are fully indoctrinated there entire life. they believe you killed the son of god when you kill kim jong un. they most likely want to kill you for it. not work along for a better future.
 

Posted Mar 31, '13 at 5:11pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,750 posts

i dont agree that it extends to befor an attack is made. you can prepare yourself to dodge, block or counter a attack. you dont have to hit 1st.


Acting does not always mean violence.

these civilians are fully indoctrinated there entire life. they believe you killed the son of god when you kill kim jong un. they most likely want to kill you for it. not work along for a better future.


Yes, I'm aware of that. Which is why I only said it would disrupt their chain of command, not stop the threat. Actually assassinating their leaders/capturing them is idealistic anyways, I don't expect that to really happen.
 
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