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Posted Jun 16, '13 at 8:33pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

9,837 posts

*sigh* alright...rant time.

To start, I don't many disrespect towards you Moon..but you just happen to be a perfect embodiment of your fellow relics of the older generations.

Please, and I say this as politely and respectfully as I can...stop comparing us to the old generations. This goes for everyone. We are not the older generations.

Every single time one of you relics come back...it seems that you all just incessantly insult us and how our community has become, while at the same time glorifying your time. You all tout yourselves like you have this great admiration for the AG community, specifically your generation, yet I see nothing that would hint towards it.
If you truly cared about this community, then do what the people of this generation are doing and help us rebuild it to a bustling community again. Stop wandering it and insulting it, it is doing nothing other than reminding us of something that we had no control over and are trying to fix.

This also is a key difference I see between your generation and ours...your generation had great activity, while our generation has low...our generation cares about the welfare of the community, while your generation cares about how the community used to be.

Again, we get our community is nowhere near the bustling bucket of bouncing fun yours was..but that doesn't mean our community is a ****-hole. We have character out of the *** as well. We have also been trying for the past few months to make this place a "respectful" place again (although, I find this place **** respectful, and if you disagree, then let me direct you to all the ****s I give) and it isn't our fault that your generation is so blinded by your self-perceived greatness to see the awesome quality that exists in our generation.

So, yeah. Go team.

 

Posted Jun 16, '13 at 8:33pm

R2D21999

R2D21999

17,342 posts

Knight

Yeah I guess I could but I don't want to be incredibly mean to people. I don't want to be like that again.

 

Posted Jun 16, '13 at 8:34pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

9,837 posts

I don't many disrespect


*I don't mean any disrespect
 

Posted Jun 16, '13 at 8:37pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

9,837 posts

Stop wandering it


*wandering in

Still waiting for that edit button *sigh*
 

Posted Jun 16, '13 at 8:42pm

Bronze

Bronze

2,454 posts

There is no spark in the AMW because there is no incentive for any aspiring artist to post their work. No one gives any feedback. Hell, nobody even says "nice drawing" anymore. The only time a thread booms is when one user has to give back. You'd think posting art for people would be enough, but no. You have to complete requests from people, and then all you get is a thanks.

Until the community gives back to the artist, there will be no AMW.

 

Posted Jun 16, '13 at 9:28pm

SunPixie

SunPixie

76 posts

Pang, I really do understand what you guys are saying. I do. I know I tried really hard when everyone was leaving, I tried hard to keep people here and keep activity up. And I know it's also really frustrating to have someone (for me it was people from '09-'10) to come in and talk about how crappy the community I loved a lot was crappy.
But I don't believe I've inccesantly insulted you. And if I you have percieved any of my comments as an insult, well I do apologize. Also, feel free to quote me and show me where I have insulted you so I know not to do it again.
You do have a point, thought. I didn't really care about "AG". I only cared about the people that I befriended over the years. Many of them happened to be the backbone of the community, though.
Like I said before, if we could reverse the gears and have everyone back it would be great. But that isn't going to happen because everyone got jobs, went to college, etc.
When I first posted on this thread, I gave an open invitation for people to greet me, but that didn't happen. I got some crap about how "You left because of this and this or that??" I really just wanted my account back so I could try and make more friends and help out in the AMW, but instead it seems my nostalgia has come across as rude..? I assure you it wasn't meant to be. But please try to understand, when you compare your current efforts to the 'old' times, and then you call the current community better, it's a bit of an insult to me. Mainly because most/all of you didn't experience it, but just reverse what you think I'm doing to you, and that's how it is for me. Now as soon as a certain green-typing fellow comes back from the desert then will hopefully help me fix my account I will gladly try to come back anddo my part, mainly for the AMW and Tavern.
As Bronze said, in order to revive the AMW, you need to give back to the artist. Having good intentions to fix things isn't going to get it done, just as this thread was a bit stale by the time I got here.

If my account doesn't get fixed, then I make no promises to stick around much in the forums, but I'll still gladly chat via comments.

I do understand you don't mean to be disrespectful, but what you said was pretty rude. I'm not prancing around telling everyone they suck. I'm just saying don't diss the past AG if you weren't there. Forgive me for being nostalgic when I returned to this site from a year and a half of absence.

 

Posted Jun 16, '13 at 9:37pm

Salvidian

Salvidian

4,299 posts

How do we fix the AMW?


Short answer: Idk.

Long answer: The AMW can't be "fixed" like the other sections. This is bold to say, but regardless of what you think, it can't be fixed with a simple introduction of more activity. It can't be fixed with more skilled artists. It can't be fixed with the return of vets. It can't be fixed with awesome threads, new contests, cool content, or practically anything else. It isn't quite that simple.

The AMW is like a baby. It must be taken care of by using different techniques at different times. If a baby smells, change its diaper. If a baby is hungry, give it milk. It a baby has gas, burp it. Before you figure out what you need to do, however, you need to analyze it. The AMW, like a baby, is constantly changing. You can leave it to sit in a room by itself and it will change. Therefore, it's a complicated area.

I want you all to read that, think on it for a while, come back and share your new opinions. If not, we'll end up failing again. Trust me - I'm a cute ninja.
 

Posted Jun 16, '13 at 9:48pm

pangtongshu

pangtongshu

9,837 posts

I do understand you don't mean to be disrespectful, but what you said was pretty rude. I'm not prancing around telling everyone they suck. I'm just saying don't diss the past AG if you weren't there. Forgive me for being nostalgic when I returned to this site from a year and a half of absence.


I'll respond more later...but I do want to start with an apology of my own. I was pretty harsh...but only because I do care about this community so much...but this is no excuse for such blinders over my own eyes. I just haven't been in the best of moods for quite some times now..so my reaction is a lot heavier than I would like.

One example would be the statement of you being the perfect embodiment of fellow past members...that isn't true, and if edit was a thing here I would love to delete that. You are more of a vehicle to the realization on my part that the past members seem to be quite insulting of this generation...which is quite irksome.

Also, I'm not advocating any generation bashing the other. Everyone, respect each generation. It's ****ing annoying when generations talk down or poorly of the other.

Pang


*pang
 

Posted Jun 16, '13 at 9:55pm

xeano321

xeano321

3,111 posts

Knight

Wow... Two days at work and two pages of long posts to read through... =P

don't compare this current community to the one of the past because you don't know what it was like.


As a past lurker during that time frame, I can agree that the community isn't the same anymore. Times change, people change, topics of discussions change... It's the cycle of the internet. Sadly, if you weren't here to change with the rest of the community, it can be rather hard to fit in.

Moon, seems like you're just wanting the old community back. That isn't going to happen. Nobody here is dissing the old AG... Believe me, we all would have liked to have been a part of that era (I was a lurker at that time, but I regret not having participated.) Just don't beat on the new era that we are approaching. It's taken around two years of nagging to the admins, and hundreds of pages of discussion to prepare for this, and we are all hoping it wont fail.

Hang around a while, contact Ferret and he'll fix your old account, and become part of the community. It's changed, but it is still the same high quality that we all know and love.
 

Posted Jun 16, '13 at 10:00pm

daleks

daleks

3,791 posts

a majority of the new kids were either dumb as rocks or just plain annoying.

Well now I know what you think about me Em. *Runs of crying*

Cen died, probably. Stroppy works on WoM. Zoph has only been active for like a week since I have had my account. Walker has family, he was around as long as Zoph since I have been around.

Also Em, you left because of the same reasons as me. Except now I have more time and am better at balancing things.