I've been more or less sitting and watching the fireworks blow up and the soldiers run. I guess I should probably step in now that things are getting a little interesting. Naturally, I advise all of you to read my post in its entirety even if it might be a little longwinded and extensive. It'll save you and me time in the future and it'll prevent you from looking like an idiot. I'll probably begin responding to posts using the quote system primarily but if needed I can switch to a more freehanded writing technique to express my woes and yays pertaining to this thread.
AGCAI rocks! =D
Armor Games Community Activity Initiative ® ©
I'm going to start with this one because I think it's leading to a lot of needless poison that just ends up circulating through the community. Most of you have said that complaining, *****ing, whining and moaning are pointless so I think it's time to kill the dog before it
really bites. If you excuse my horrible imagery, I mean
threads like the AGCAI and the Pickle threads need to die and they need to go away. This is one of our biggest problems and we've dug our own graves with them. Yes, threads like these have helped, but we absolutely need to switch from the "moaning and whining" nonsense and go back to actually using the Forums for what they were intended for. If there's a need for a thread like this, sure, we can make a type of thread where users can complain about the lack of activity and whatnot, but we don't need to go crazy and go all AGCAI on ourselves. It's hypocritical and annoying, if you allow me to say so. It's going to sound pretentious to say so, but I think I may be the culprit for this. But please excuse a well-meaning newbie for the sake of the community.
So, I think the best way to kill this plague is to conclude our business here, have the thread locked, and remember to always do our best to post and make threads and yadda yadda whatever. The AGCAI needs to die and we need to stop referring ourselves to this. It's become but a faulty emergency plan to increase activity for a couple of days, and then it becomes a serious burden.
Can you guys please come up with some ideas? This whole thing can't be resting on me you know. I need some inspiration or suggestions...
This brings up another thing. If you have ideas or suggestions, just tell Ferret. I feel bad having to burden him with our wants (and sometimes needs) because many of them are obviously not going to happen soon. A friendly reminder once in a while is all that's needed. The best thing to do, in my mind, is to occasionally ask Ferret when these AG3 updates are coming and what they'll be like and etc. Ferret operates differently than cormyn (OOOOH I brought up that evil name again didn't I? Live with it) and he isn't going to do a public release for every little thing. Ferret is more intimate with the users he watches.
It would be good because we have a relevant issue found. No cause that can be solved is found however. Its progress none the less. Currently we can't do something amazing like take a entire summer camp of kids and promote AG community activity so they make accounts. So anything small is worth something.
In that case, take the small stuff into your own hands! Get away from the big stuff and do
what you can to help. We don't need to dramatically grab the administrators and force their hands this way or that. We need to use the Forums for what they were made for: fun!
This action however is null and void because we have an solution but no real cause to the issue that can be solved. Like I said, If we give them an issue it will just swim in with the rest of the sea of issues.
DEAR LORD WE HAVE AN EPIPHANY. I'm sorry if it feels like I'm singling you out, Mino, but this needs to be changed. You only represent a large demographic of AG thinkers.
But going back to my point, we need to nicely ask Ferret what's going on instead of going crazy.
xeano idea is simple: Lets say we take Ferret, make him come up with a general calculation for the forum activity. These calculations (per forum lets say) will find a root cause to the issue. For instance:
There are 15 forums on Armor Games. Each forum host a subject. We find the forums that lack in activity, where we have to come up with an estimate, then observe the subjects being made in these forums to see what is wrong, then fix spread AGCAI's Intiative in the areas that are relevant for the moment being.
The only thing we can do however is make more interesting posts, but the root cause of the issue itself roots from the fact that people prefer sites such as Addicting Games or Newgrounds. AG3 would have put a new look for AG that would have attracted some people. But not changing the site for 5 years and it running into constant glitches (in the past), spam (which was common in the past) and lack of unintuitive ideas to attract users (in the past again) and maintaining users is luck in itself.
User account activity seems to be fine. Users are active but not going to the forums. And the forum posts that are being made are not working out so well. WERP seems to be the haven for conspiracy theories, the popular media is just as good as the media being put out, games is fine thanks to the eighth generation gaming consoles being released, and the Tavern is just random. We have issues. Calculation will help.
With all of this, lets just do a BETA test to see if calculations work? It doesn't hurt and its effort being put into the site.
I could go on and on all day about why this wouldn't work but I don't think I will. Ask if you want I guess.
Or, we have Forum Games..which is thriving. Partly due to its "quick fix" for posts..and partly due to its quirky games.
And partly because of its general taste.
No one here currently does poetry or writing or art or music.
Guys, how about we not make fun of Emily and instead go off on her thought? She's saying we need to present some stuff in the AMW. It's easy and we can do it ourselves! It's using the Forums for what they were intended for! It's fun!
but the community activity is a concern of their (I hope) but I don't think it ranges very high on their to do list.
For the sake of the coherency of this post I won't delve into this. Maybe later.
The reason Ferret is so active is because he is community manager. He needs to post and communicate to community users what goes and what doesn't. The other admins manage the code for the site and look for glitches. They get paid to work, not talk to users.
So what's the problem here? It sounds like everything's working fine. Wait. No it isn't. They're not doing enough, are they? Believe me, they're doing all we need them to do. The other admins are great. We don't need to touch on that subject.
Pang does poetry. Daleks does drawing. I think that forum is fine the way it is currently.
It really isn't. The AMW creates a nationality AG can get familiar with. The AMW is our biggest and best tool for creating a good user base and familiar traits everywhere. It's used to create a family, basically.
And AGCAI is a guild with a registered trademark and copyright.
Cool story. It really should be killed though. (See above)
why don't we all just do it.
This boy has the right idea! (See above)
the ones that encourage community are dying.
It's simple... we kill the AGCAI... (See above)
I tried to make this post nice and short. I'll be happy to elaborate on anything if needed. READ THE WHOLE **** THING BEFORE YOU RESPOND
PLEASE.
