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Posted Aug 27, '13 at 11:50pm

hojoko

hojoko

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So next time you glorify or try to justify using drug don't be surprised if I tell you my piece of mind!


Allow me to elaborate on part of the problem here.

You, as an individual, are perfectly entitled to your own opinion. You can believe that all drugs, regardless of potency, are terrible. That's okay.

What's not okay is for you to be so blatantly prejudiced. Your claim that all drug users are essentially stupid criminals who deserve to be shot is tantamount to me stating that all poor people are lazy, uneducated leeches on society who deserve to be sent to a watery grave.

Of course, I don't believe that about the poor, but it serves to get the point across. If you have a problem with something, elaborate with evidence, not generalizations. Show us, statistically, how drugs contribute to crime, or how they tear apart families. Otherwise, your posts serve no purpose.

Also, I would caution against getting most your information about drug users from entertainment media (which I assume based on how you described marijuana usage). And trying it once or twice doesn't really make you an expert. There are plenty of people who can function perfectly well who've used marijuana. Like the president of the United States (among others).

And just as you know people who smoke and laugh at stupid jokes, I know plenty of people who smoke and do math, or read a book, or write (good) music (I also live in a state where marijuana is legal). Likewise, I know people who drop LSD at parties (me included) who function perfectly fine the rest of the time. Because, surprisingly, LSD isn't that harmful.
 

Posted Aug 28, '13 at 12:41am

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

9,485 posts

He started using pot, then hashish then coke, crack and guess where he is now? Yeah he's dead.

My grandpa started drinking alcoholic beverages when he was 5 (Germanic parents) and guess where he is now? Yeah he's alive, in his mid-80s living happily with his wife on a lakeshore. What conclusions can we draw from this?
 

Posted Aug 28, '13 at 1:27am

SSTG

SSTG

11,931 posts

Knight

My grandpa started drinking alcoholic beverages when he was 5 (Germanic parents) and guess where he is now? Yeah he's alive, in his mid-80s living happily with his wife on a lakeshore. What conclusions can we draw from this?

That he's in his mid 80's and he's still alive. Some people have a stronger body than others. Like those people living in a village in South America where everybody smokes tobacco and the mother is 120 yo, her older daughter is 95 and the baby is 80 yo and they're all walking and smoking.
What conclusion can you draw from that?

If you drug lovers like using drugs then what does it matter if I think drug users are idiots? It won't make you stop using drug. Why do you feel the need to justify it? Is that an ego thing. I'm right, you're wrong, I'm wrong you're right.

Alcoholics always say they're not addicted and they just drink a little, they can stop whenever they want. Can they?
 

Posted Aug 28, '13 at 1:55am

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

9,485 posts

what does it matter if I think drug users are idiots? It won't make you stop using drug.

My solution: Put them against a wall a shoot them.

If your plan follows through, it will.

Why do you feel the need to justify it?

Because words can lead to actions, legislative or otherwise. Since I know my views can change, I want to have a well-informed position before I protest or vote on something (and I have a research paper on drugs due in a few months). If you'd actually bring some facts and stats instead of spewing opinions, I could change my mind.
 

Posted Aug 28, '13 at 2:01am

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

9,485 posts

Here's a list of some common drugs and categories. Please sort out which ones you find acceptable for use beyond medical reasons and explain why.

Caffeine
Nicotine
Sedatives
Cannabis (marijuana)
Ritalin
Steroids
Cocaine/Crack
Alcohol
Amphetamines

 

Posted Aug 28, '13 at 2:38am

SSTG

SSTG

11,931 posts

Knight

Caffeine
Nicotine
Sedatives
Cannabis (marijuana)
Ritalin
Steroids
Cocaine/Crack
Alcohol
Amphetamines


Ideally none of them but some have been proved to have medicinal properties and you can't stop drinking coffee because it's in people's way of life and it doesn't alter you state of mind. Caffeine can be bad for some people with health condition like Ulcerative Colitis, Crohn's disease and can cause excitement and make it hard to sleep if abused.

Nicotine is bad. I used to smoke so I know. After I quit smoking I started really tasting my food. An apple actually tasted like an apple, isn't that amazing!

Cannabis (marijuana)

One of the component of cannabis called CBD is actually good to help people with seizures and other problems so this is used in medicine.
Potheads use it for the high (THC) they get from it though.

Steroids

Good if used as a temporary medication, not for doping in sport.

Ritalin
Also used as a medication. Don't know much about this one though.

Cocaine/Crack

That's the one I have a hard time with. People often act crazy with this and yes, those who use it should be shot in the head!

Amphetamines

If treated as medicine, I don't have problem with it.
 

Posted Aug 28, '13 at 2:51am

SSTG

SSTG

11,931 posts

Knight

I missed alcohol,
It can be used as aperitif and help with digestion.
Also used in cooking. I like beer battered fish!
It can also be used for medicinal purpose such as disinfectant.
Of course some idiots always find a way to abuse of it.
So if used the proper way I don't see any harm with it.

 

Posted Aug 28, '13 at 3:03am

partydevil

partydevil

5,200 posts

if you were addicted to drugs how would you want to be approached?
i for one would want my family to step in and throw an intervention. i feel like if enough people i care about told me that i had a problem and couldnt livea normal life i would really change my mind about whatever drug i would be addicted too.

you can say i'm addicted to it aswell. i smoke it daily if i can. i got control over my marijuana use now. but it hasn't always been like that. it used to cause me problems for some years befor i wanted to make a change.

i think it depends very much per person how they will react to the care of family and friends. i for 1 just didn't saw the care of these people anymore so it didn't matter at all what they told me.
it is easy to say you would change your mind about what drugs you would take.. but what else would you take? alcohol instead? cause alcohol is much worse then marijuana. well there is no less harmless "fun" drug then marijuana, so in that sense you shouldn't worry so much about it. when you however observe changes in their deeper personality then you should talk with them. the overuse of marijuana can cause mental problems like schizophrenia. but dont expect them to change. you can't remove someones addiction by talking with them. the only way they can stop using it, is when they want to stop using it by their own.
 

Posted Aug 28, '13 at 3:08am

EmperorPalpatine

EmperorPalpatine

9,485 posts

Ideally none of them

How about chocolate, which contains dopamine, serotonin, and theophylline? And bananas, which contain dopamine?

and you can't stop drinking coffee because it's in people's way of life

Are they still useless, retarded ****roaches? Why or why not?
 

Posted Aug 28, '13 at 3:08am

partydevil

partydevil

5,200 posts

It can also be used for medicinal purpose such as disinfectant.

i hope your not using beer for disinfecting wounds =/

Of course some idiots always find a way to abuse of it.

they make it really easy for alcohol to be abused. i mean go in a random shop and it's very likely you can buy some sort of alcohol.

Also used in cooking. I like beer battered fish!

space-cake,brownies,butter,bread,pancakes,tea, etc. etc. marijuana is used in cooking aswell =P
 
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