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Oh thought of an of an idea. Could we have those anti-spam things like what is 12-7 or that stuff when people sign up... Idk if that can happen, but I have seen them on other sites when you sign up.

I have not seen much like it though.... Yeah that was bad last year, but this is bugging me because I think it is 1 person like Moegrech said to either Ice or Me can't remember which, but he said. "just have to wait for them to make another account."

Ok come on, is there NO way we can Permanently stop this guy from spamming, like an IP ban or something?

All I really want is to raise awareness so we can stop these guys. It is a nuisance, that we should be able to stop (I think IDK if we can).

~~Black~~

Blackbelt,

I'm sure AG has its anti-spam measures in place (you probably don't wanna know what a place such as this would look like without them), and the mods noticeably clean up diligently after anything that's left. Aided perhaps by people who just simply but faithfully hit the report button on such messages. (And I've never seen any spam message last for long here; although their deleted presence may persist in cache a little longer, still, never for very long. Not even at what to my best knowledge should be off-hours.)

The problem will always be there, and tends to come in waves, and it can never be dealt with 100% effectively. But the way I see it, AG does a fine job at controlling things

(IP bans, btw, are a tricky thing -- not technically, to implement, but to target them right.)

Also kindly note that discussing their precise measures would be defeating the purpose, so I'm sure the staff won't, and I've seen them state that they won't and can't.

Just to be clear, the problem with spam bots is perennial and extends well beyond the borders of AG. We do have anti-spam measures in place but, as Mac point out, discussing these would allow the makers of the spam bots to circumvent these measures.

I'm genuinely proud of the work the moderator team has done in catching and deleting the spam and, of course, banning those spam accounts. The average time a spam bot account is active is typically under 30 minutes. But in that time, they can do quite a bit of posting.

We are actively considering a variety of measures to address the problem. But let's face it - spam bots will always be a problem. It seems that for every fix, there's a way to get around it. And keep in mind we want the site to be accessible and friendly to new users, so we have to keep that in mind.

As for IP bans, history tells us they don't work. It's very straightforward nowadays to change your IP. And, as Mac also pointed out, banning the right IP can be tricky. You might accidentally end up IP banning hundreds or thousands of potential (or current) AG users.

So in the meantime I have two bits of advice:
1) Don't post on threads that are from these spam bots. It actually makes it slightly harder for us to notice them. Instead, let a mod know about it.
2) For the love of God, don't click any links in these threads. Not only are you putting your computer at serious risk, but you're encouraging the whole process. At the end of the day, if these techniques fail to generate hits for these Websites, the problem will sort itself out.

We had stricter rules in the past to block spammers, but relaxed on them since the spammers disappeared. If it becomes an issue again, we will up the posting difficulty again until, once again, they go away

I believe the last thing we changed was turning off the "no posting until your account is 3 days old" check.

I believe the last thing we changed was turning off the "no posting until your account is 3 days old" check.

I think AG should go back to the 3 days or 2 days period before people can post. Also, if they don't favorite any games or play something during this period, their account should be deleted.

Yeah, great idea. Alienate and punish users wishing to just visit the forums. We don't require an account to simply play games here, and the only perk of making an account is access to online saves and the ability to comment. If we just deleted accounts for not playing a game within three days of making it, how many people would we lose?

And before you say "Who comes here for the forums and not the games?", I did for one.

Yeah, great idea. Alienate and punish users wishing to just visit the forums. We don't require an account to simply play games here, and the only perk of making an account is access to online saves and the ability to comment. If we just deleted accounts for not playing a game within three days of making it, how many people would we lose?

Just because it's a suggestion doesn't make it above criticisms.

I'd rather not discuss our current/potential measures against spammers out in the open.

We're cooking up an idea, we're thinking it may be earning Quests to post.

I believe the last thing we changed was turning off the "no posting until your account is 3 days old" check.

We're cooking up an idea, we're thinking it may be earning Quests to post.

You have to earn the "One Hundred Freaking Million" Quest from Epic Combo Redux if you want to post on the forums.

You have to earn the "One Hundred Freaking Million" Quest from Epic Combo Redux if you want to post on the forums.

I believe the last thing we changed was turning off the "no posting until your account is 3 days old" check.

A Thought:
From what I've seen, these spam threads all have multiple links. If any thread with, lets say 3 or more external links in the opening post were automatically relocated to a hidden "quarantine forum" of some kind, it would prevent naive users from being roped in and clear the regular forums of excess clutter. Would this be feasible?