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thunderrider
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Hi, I am level 3142, and I am going to be the first to get a grade 100 gem.

http://i.imgur.com/LPI5mar.jpg

How did I get specs obscenely high? Well, thanks to this dude over here...

One important thing to note is how to create dual gems. Adding two grade one's them spamming U is losing about 33% special power.

Optimal creation is a G1 of both, combine, make a G2 of each, add one pure to each dual, combine the G3s, duplicate, and repeat with pure G4s, duplicate the 6, etc.

here is the difference at g34:
Regular creation:
http://prntscr.com/3dgs2c

Special Mix:
http://prntscr.com/3dgs6k

Note that the hit count is the same, and the cost to duplicate is the same. This is a difference of 32.9%, and this difference keeps rising at higher levels. It's only a 16% difference at grade 6. It takes a decent amount of time, but it is worth it at ultimate grades (45+).


I now have huge specs. It takes me about 20-30 seconds real life time to get +1 grade. So a minute before +2(needed if want extra specs). I estimate my specs to be about 80% higher than normal, at least blood is.

PS- Level 46 amps got the spec treatment too, they are wicked.
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thunderrider
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Seanhates you got G70 gem? pic pls.

Ok the formula for making an even grade gem(2 4 6 8 upgrade like that, better looking).

With R-O-Blue-Black.

First- Your First G9

Make: 1O 1R 1Blu 1Blk

Combine

G3.

Duplicate

Make: G3 RO, G3 Blk

Combine the Quads with the above.

G5

Duplicate

Make: G5 O, G4 RBlk

Combine Quads with Above

G7

Duplicate

Make: G7 O, G7 Blk

Combine Quads with Above

G9.

Second G9 to make G10 with losing minimal specs and finetuning:

Make: G1 R, G1 Blk, 2 G1 O

Combine

G3.

Duplicate

Make G1 R, 2 G1 Blk, G1 O

G3.

Duplicate

Combine carefully, the first G3 set with the second G3 set. Not with each other.

Now you got 2 G4.

Combine

G5

Duplicate

Make: G5 O G5 Blk

Combine Triple with Above

G7

Repeat with G7 O, Blk.

G9. Combine with other G9.

Success.

Well rounded, unbuffed-except-by-bloodbound blue, good base chain, even percentage of orange, black. =)

Here's how I start my field. Doing another run, I will post pics after every wave.

http://i.imgur.com/kIVaLbR.jpg

Wave 1: E22 Armor, 999 monsters. Angered with Grade1.

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http://i.imgur.com/HHbMZUS.jpg

Wave 2. 999 monsters, E24 armor. Armor better than hp, it won't get bypassed for ages and ages, and hp is low enough to actually kill when I want to, but is immune to 1 damage.

This run I'm doing everything I can to max efficiency.

Grade 24, G24 amps, etc. Pretty pic huh, in the multiple billions before wave 2 starts.

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http://i62.tinypic.com/2rcx6ig.jpg

Suffer a great lad after 12,000 monsters

Controlling the monsters within a range of 9800-12500

But my G70 gem was bad =[

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Very nice o: you beat me. Tho if shockwave hadn't crashed(made the mistake of duplicating something with 12k monsters when not on pause....fail) I would probably have gotten G70 by wave 20 or 21, I had G68 wave 18.5.

Well oh well. On to Grade 80 =)

Here's Wave 3

http://i.imgur.com/SLpV2TB.jpg

999 monsters(now I'm gonna stop saying that lol), E26 armor. i want zero of these puppies to die until I get grade 70 gem+

So far, highly efficient, 13 grades/wave lol.

Note- amps higher grade than actual farm due to a little miscalculation of mine. Hehe.

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Wave 4 update.

http://i.imgur.com/WrV2Xb5.jpg

I've found Step Time seems to be even better than 1x. You know, 9x and 3x suck for mana farm. What if Step Time makes mana farm 3x efficient, like 3x is for 9x, and 1x is for 3x? :O

Inconclusive yet, but 1) I have no time delay if I need to upgrade(with lag, pressing pause takes like 10 seconds or so for it to pause). 2) Seems I feel like I get more mana/wave-stone-movement with Step than 1x speed.

Wave 4 - 5E26 armor.

Average Grade/Wave: 12.

Last run I got grade 50 by wave 7. This, I'm poised to get it just barely after wave 4 is called. Hehehe double speed improvement almost.

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71 was all I had the patience for tonight, especially given how drunk I am. I didn't follow the max efficiency technique for every level, cause again...drunk.

I probably would have done a lot more if I didn't screw up the last few waves. Usually I will anger the last 5-6 waves before endurance and permafreeze them for close to 5000 monsters sitting on my mana farm, with no new monsters coming in to slow down everything. But I didn't enrage enough and only ended up with 2k monsters.

Unfortunately, a level 70ish gem only gets you to wave 700 or so. There is still a lot more that needs to be done to beat endurance without shrines.

http://i.imgur.com/zMFxUCv.png

tsuhatehk
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Step time has no difference.

Both method give me 3.9+e20 each frame (G71)

thunderrider
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Not what I mean. Does 1x speed maybe skip a few frames at low levels of lag? Idk, I just keep getting the feeling i'm getting more mana per wavelength with step time, so I keep doing it.

Wave 5 Update-

http://i.imgur.com/Suf3C2p.jpg

Going to jump from 50 to 54 soon.

Saves on barrage.

I hope to get grade 60, wave 7ish.

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Wave 8 Update, Grade 60.

Sorry for not posting Waves 6 and 7, wanted to rush for G60 :P

Have any of you gotten G60 this early? From this thread and others afaik no one has. Yet. :P

I know some of you can do it easily c:

http://i.imgur.com/tJLZ9Dw.jpg

Angering is up to 1.152E29 armor.

psorek
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Nobody (except you) was patient enough I think.

tsuhatehk
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ignoring how the lag caused and gathered 16,000 monsters in the screen now.

G72 with almost 1+e16 mana per hit give me 8.7+e20 per step.

Enraging with G1 gem is an excellent idea for everyone but enrage each wave by clicking 800 times is a hard work. Maybe using macro may solve this matter

psorek
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Yep, using macro helps a lot. I recomend linux with KDE, macros here are built into OS

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Yeah, armor doesn't deplete

I only enrage about 320 times + per wave....oh wait that's a lot. Eh, I only need to do it once per 10 min or so.

Wave 11 Update:

http://i.imgur.com/syzSV4U.jpg

8.5 * E17 mana per frame

Tsuhatehk what wave I'd like to know =)

HaveFun everyone c: don't let lag get you down.

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wave 35; 17500 Monsters..

waiting for another 1.5+e23 and upgrade to G73

"We just keep motivating each others"

I found that after playing 24 hours, the sound will finish its loop and everything runs faster.

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http://i57.tinypic.com/2eqfcs7.jpg

G73. It takes around 2 wave to upgrade a level

The next target: upgrading amp to G72

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