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Why do we keep getting BAD MMO's?

Posted Jul 13, '14 at 5:31pm

winner10

winner10

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Im fed up with AG giving us virtual trash, if you dont know what im talking about look at Seafight, Pirate clan, Cyberpunks vs Syndicate, Those are some of the games and i know i havnt mentioned much more,

Anyway, Unless their Business model is to release bad games so that good games will get Extreme attention and recieve alot of money then i see No reason as to why they are doing this.

AG knows that games like Deadzone and Rise of mythos and Battle-Conquest were huge hits with players and aswell as Astroflux and Super mechs were also huge hits

So why do we keep getting bad MMO's?


last edited Jul 13 2014 05:32 pm by winner10
 

Posted Jul 14, '14 at 1:13am

Salvidian

Salvidian

4,299 posts

Because they make money.

(Note: Accidentally reported your post, whoops!)

 

Posted Jul 14, '14 at 9:58am

R2D21999

R2D21999

17,331 posts

Knight

Like Sal said, ArmorGames gets money from these games.

Also, you may find these games terrible, but there are other people that also like these games.

 

Posted Jul 14, '14 at 12:43pm

Dirk25

Dirk25

32 posts

Some MMO's are quite decent despite the pay to play/win model some games tend to give off.

I get it people don't want to spend money, However some of the comments I've seen basically sum up to "How dare you try to make money Devs, BAD DEVS BAD!!!!!!!!!!"

At least that is what I get from those comments.

The problem I personally have is clear ripoffs,clones, etc. It seems to me that all they do is try to clone the last successful MMO in order to try and score a buck. I'm sure there are some sincere ones out there. Please name them if you want.

By the way Wartune was a major hit here and on Kongregate It gave stuff for the free players to do while waiting on buildings to finish or waiting on that last 30 minutes for event resets. Despite the clear music ripoff from Last Remnant, I enjoyed that game very much. I got to lv 42 before quitting because I ran myself into the ground with gold issues that I created myself from splurging way to much on Astrals.

Crystal Saga was by far my favorite. It wasn't really pay to win/play, Unless you wanted to be #1 which I never cared for personally. I enjoyed the game for what it was and even made some good friends there.


last edited Jul 14 2014 12:47 pm by Dirk25
 

Posted Jul 14, '14 at 1:46pm

UnleashedUponMankind

UnleashedUponMankind

8,162 posts

Moderator

*Note: I am a mod, yes, but i have no intels, so im only guessing here*

OK, not all is guesswork, i know that AG only host these MMOs, they don´t develop them. If somebody spent real money on this games AG get an interest... the majority goes to the devs.

... and now my assumptions: i think AG have contracts with studios about hosting their games, if a game dont break AGs terms in general they can´t refuse the title, because this is sinply against their contract(s), if they do (because its a "bad" game) this may end up in a loss of a contract, and also could repel other devs to work with AG.
All in all AG loss money, and AG need money to run the site, pay the bills... you don´t have to pay for the use of AG.

Besides my assumption: everyone have its own likes (and dislikes^^) in ... well, everytihing, this includes flash games and MMOs.
If you dont like a game... don´t play it

And one thing is sure as eggs is eggs... as long as people play crap and willing to spent money on them the devs will develop this crap.

 

Posted Jul 15, '14 at 4:30pm

MerlinCross

MerlinCross

56 posts

Because AG needs money.

This model won't last so might as well squeeze out as much cash as possible. Screw the players right, we got ours. What's the contract that lets these games get up? "Give us cash and we'll put it up?" Rip off, poorly designed messes? Games that lie to the playerbase that somehow eats it up? Hell, Wartune and League of Angels are advertising themselves as porn games. Sure they aren't but meh, guess it doesn't break the contract.

I come less and less to armor games due to these games. Why should I come here any more when I'm being pushed into playing trash? I'll just go to newgrounds or another site that doesn't push MMOs at me.


last edited Jul 15 2014 04:34 pm by MerlinCross
 

Posted Jul 16, '14 at 10:49am

UnleashedUponMankind

UnleashedUponMankind

8,162 posts

Moderator

Newgrounds also host MMOs... even Wartune and League Of Angels... so, as mentinoed before:

If you dont like a game... don´t play it
 

Posted Jul 18, '14 at 1:19am

MerlinCross

MerlinCross

56 posts

I haven't been to Newgrounds in awhile since Armor games filled it for me.

And you're right. I don't like the game, I don't play it. However I'm sadden that this isn't Armorgames this is MMOgames. At least that's what all the ads tell me. It's thanks to Wartune and League of Angels that I GOT Adblocker in the first place. Which leads to Armor games having to take money from anyone who gives them money.

And the cycle continues.


last edited Jul 18 2014 01:22 am by MerlinCross
 

Posted Jul 21, '14 at 7:07pm

winner10

winner10

2 posts

... and now my assumptions: i think AG have contracts with studios about hosting their games, if a game dont break AGs terms in general they can´t refuse the title, because this is sinply against their contract(s), if they do (because its a "bad" game) this may end up in a loss of a contract, and also could repel other devs to work with AG.
All in all AG loss money, and AG need money to run the site, pay the bills... you don´t have to pay for the use of AG.


Hrm, That is true, however how did games like Deadzone and Battle conquest get on AG as they have no prior company behind them to send them off to AG if it were to be published,

I do understand AG needs to make good money to run this and Adblock certainly doesnt help, Im okay with AD's so far as they arnt directly in my play vision

And one thing is sure as eggs is eggs... as long as people play crap and willing to spent money on them the devs will develop this crap.


While that is true, Games like Deadzone and rise of mythos and dawn of dragons have had Extreme amounts of plays while games like Seafight and pirate clan have less plays and are much worse quality.

Perhaps it is just that there are few Innovative and good MMO companies out there and if there are the chances of them signing a deal with AG over say Kongregate is lesser and thats why we have Deadzone and Battle conquest in that ag was only place that would accept them
 

Posted Jul 21, '14 at 8:47pm

samiel

samiel

424 posts

Actually @Winner10 ConArtist (The dev behind last stand series) Has a Last Stand series that started on here and let's hope finishes here. Now on to the issue at hand. Game gets submitted, no reason not to accept it, "Go ahead and accept it, oh our MMO category is filled with trash, whatever no big deal right?" There is as little reason to deny their release on this website as their is for them to be released peroid.

 
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