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Cryo- I am trying to get a feel for the game a little more, having fun mixing and matching weapons but coming up short a lot of times, as well as having to farm dungeons over and over just to be able to advance through them. What type of weapons do you suggest to use, or is wand/shield, (Or 2 hander for hero) and staff ( Or wand/shield and mage gear best for heroine)? Also, do you suggest always trying to get the best cloth gear for the heroine, and same with heavy for the hero, or do you ever think that the leather/light would suffice? Just curious. Ty in advance

There is no 'best gear' in the game, you have to switch around various weapons if you're going to get through a dungeon without too much HP loss.

Personally though, I always have 3 sets of staffs and wands on hand, 1 2H weapon, 1 shield, 1 orb, and 1 set of heavy armor, cloth armor, and leather armor. In double-element dungeons have a second wand ready in case you need to go wand/shield and wand/orb.

Should help to know though that at some point you'll realize your heroine is the best mage, and your hero is the best tank, trying to switch their roles is like assigning the wrong person to the wrong task.

Which is why my guide doesn't use light armor, I tested it as the game says is the best tactic against assassins, and what do I get? A really face-palming defeat. Plus it's never worth weakening your offense to try and live longer, all that gets you is more HP loss. Dead enemies can't harm you, so it's sometimes worth risking an open defense but they'll be dead faster.

But that doesn't mean you should completely min-max, some CON on both your heroes is always a good idea. You're not going to be doing any damage if you're dead faster either.

At the same time, I rarely use crossbows and bows, not because they're weak, but because any situation I'd use them I'd be using a 2H instead, saves on inventory space.

I thank you greatly for all the help you have given to me You're so nice to answer questions we have! Keep up the nice work!

Is there a stronger strategy in dealing with the Demon King / Phoenix? For something so tactics-based, beating bosses seems to depend too heavily on favorable RNG rolls. I've tried different setups and come close, but the crits are killer. Do I need to grind explorations for equipment/gold until I can afford a better kit that will probably be useless afterwards?

Finally beat it after three days by stacking DEX, PARRY, and DODGE Heavy Armor and Accessories on the Warrior and using a Bootleg Spear enchanted with Ice Element. Getting extra hits and crits with higher DEX was worth the possibility of being parried by the Demon King. The crits made short work of the Phoenix, too.

Should just use Spirit for continues and shortcut my way through these bosses next time instead grinding for better gear. It's simply not worth it to grind when it requires luck and/or rare and expensive equipment for something so linear. Tactics should win out, but it doesn't.

Running "The FInal Sentence" now. It starts out fairly easy. The first 6 levels are straight forward, literally. Each starts from the stairs and moves off 12 blocks. There are 3 kiki's, 1 portal, 1 boss 1 bonus tile with blessings, and a set of stairs. 2 of the kiki's are bad, 1 is good and you can still resupply with him. These are located at various points along the main path. Level 1 you move to the right, take stairs to level 2 and then repeat back to the left, take stairs to level 3 and repeat back to right, etc.

The 7th follows close to the same pattern, but only 2 kiki (bad) and all encounters are bosses.

Up to this point I burned a little bit of blessing against kiki but the blessings found at the end of the floor made up for it with extra left over.

The 8th is a real nightmare. The bosses are tough and the dungeon is designed in such a way that you have to fight them multiple times. It's basically a 7 x 7 circuit with a boss at each corner and a boss in the middle of the path on both the right and left side. The middle of the path at the bottom (where you start with stairs) has an encounter with 5 magic users (if I recall correctly) and the middle of the path at the top has an encounter with 5 melee. The bottom encounter leads to a path that takes you to a good kiki.

There are portals behind each boss. The real pain is that if you use them you have to face the boss fight again coming back and the boss is made up of a Dragon and a bad kiki. If lucky I manage 2 of these bosses/kiki combos before having to restock. But if either the dragon or kiki come out swinging with crits it can bring disaster really fast.

There are 4 blocked paths. 3 are on all the corners behind the bosses except the bottom left boss - although defeating none of the bosses so far opened the blocks so it might just be that you have to defeat them all and the last one you face opens the block and now I must face each of them again to open their block.

A path down from the top middle has the 4th block and am assuming all the other portals have to be opened before it opens. I found 1000 blessings and $50,000 when I opened the bottom left block.

I have 46% parry on my hero and kiki owns him routinely on parry counter crit if I try and fight him with melee. Early on I used staffs with both heroes against kiki and usually had to revive at least once. It was frustrating because often 1 more hit would have killed him. But facing down the dragon/kiki combo taught me that is just not a good strategy.

The best I've found is to arm both my heroes with bows. It's faster than the staffs and unless he or the dragon starts crit hitting me then I can usually manage to kill kiki and get a few shots on the dragon before getting killed. Then I revive, put my best staff on my heroine (she's armored for magic) and set her to the dragon and keep the bow on my hero and set him to target fastest(which would be kiki). When kiki comes back after you revive he starts out with about 1000 hp so don't depend on your pet to take him out. One shot from the revived kiki can be devastating. The hero will do a little less damage with the bow on the dragon than if he had a staff, but at least kiki will be dead right away and your hero isn't crippled before you can kill the dragon.

A little luck here is required that the dragon doesn't crit or charge strike you before your caster can beat him down. 9 out of 10 times this method can kill the dragon/kiki combo, but occasionally it can get on a crit binge and cost me an additional revive. Or focus on my caster and kill her before she can put down enough damage for the hero to finish.

My best outcome was kiki dead and dragon down 3/4 hp before i had to revive. If you can take these 2 on without a revive then I am impressed.

I'm getting ready to go around the circuit (again) now to open the rest of the blocked places and then have the final showdown. Love to hear if anyone else has a better strategy for facing down kiki/dragon mix.

Regarding the strategy to kill dragons i think this is a lot better and safer:

Note: This is doable without spending any real money to buy blessings. You need of course to spend some blessings buying space on stash.

Collect all the heavy and light equipment with resist on the dungeon events.
Since you probably won't have enough space on your inventory you will have to keep it on your stash whenever you go in the city.

Before you portal to the dungeon before the dragon fight take this equipment with you in inventory and 2 wands that match one of the dragon weakness.

Gear:
Hero - Heavy with resist + wand
Heroine - Light with resist + wand

This tactic will spread the dragon damage between your 2 characters and i guarantee you will kill the dragon 99% of the time unless of course you get really unlucky and the dragon focuses most of his attacks on just 1 of your heroes ending up killing him.

Item farming hints:

These are techniques I have learned to create Epic and Legendary items with the least amount of fuss. This will apply to being WM level, as there isn't much point in it before then.

First order of business is to find the proper Explore dungeon. Explore until you hit a Level 53 Epic/Nightmare (yellow) dungeon. They are rare, so you'll have to burn through a lot to get there. You can run through and complete the others if you need the gear and/or money, but if you don't just dispose of them immediately until you get what you want. Level 53 blue and green dungeons don't have the drop rate of good items to make them worth the while. This will be your item farm.

Early on, it may be hard to get through the whole thing. Don't worry about it, when you run out of potions and HP, just go back to town. As your equipment improves, you'll go farther and farther with it. Once you finally beat the Boss battle on the red square, DO NOT complete the dungeon and take the prize. Simply go back to town. You have to renew the portals every three runs, which will cost you 10 grand, but that dungeon is precious. Do not throw it away! Finding a new one will cost a fortune in time and money.

A key here is finding a combination of armor and weapons that you can use all the way through the dungeon without changing. For me, the Hero with heavy armor, a wand and shield and the Heroine with cloth armor, a wand and magic shield worked. This saves enormous amounts of time and hassle, as well as inventory space. Unused equipment can be left at your Stash.

Back in town, stop by the Market. If you're still carrying extra equipment, sort your goods by hand, otherwise you can just sort by Rarity. Pick through the goods to save anything that is an upgrade to what you have. Then sell all the Common goods. They're just not worth fooling with. My farming dungeon had 18 enemies per run, and their drops consisted of Blue or better about six times on the average.

After cleaning out your inventory, go back to the dungeon and run through again. Repeat the process until your inventory is full, renewing the portals as necessary. One more trip to the Market to sell your Common items off, and you should have a pretty good haul of Blue or better items. My dungeon would give me Greens and even Yellows on occasion.

Next stop is Bootlegs. This is where you spend the money you got from selling all that Common junk. It will all be Level 51, but at least Green with the occasional Yellow or Orange. Don't worry if they're not useful to you. Their primary mission is to be grist for the Cube. I can usually buy 5 or 6 Bootleg items when I'm done dungeoning.

Now head over to your Stash and start Cubing. Start with the Blues and crunch them all down. If you make something useful, swap it out with your current equipment. Start mixing in the Bootleg items when you get to the Greens, keeping the level mix up to generate Level 54 as much as possible.

The equipment levels in the Cube don't have to be the same. What matters is the average level of them, and the Cube will give equipment one level higher than the average, up to 54 max. So a Level 51 Green combined with two Level 54's and a 53 will give you a Level 54 product. If you run out of Level 54 Greens to crunch down your Bootlegs, go ahead and turn them into a Level 53. It's almost as good. Crunching down a full inventory generally yields one or two Yellow or Orange Level 54 items each time. Remember it's all luck, so there's no guarantees. I've crunched down an entire inventory worth of stuff only to get nothing useful at all many times, and then get three the next.

Do not mix colors in the Cube. Higher rarities are sufficiently precious that it's not worth the risk of downgrading. Save your leftovers in the Stash sorted by color and have use them as needed for the next session.

That's about it. I can usually fill my inventory with about 45 Blue or better items with 7 or 8 runs through the farm dungeon, taking about 1 1/2 hours. It's tedious, but I run the game in a separate window and do other things while it fights things out in the background. If it starts bogging down, just refresh the page to clear Flash's memory and it speeds right up again.

Hope some of you find this useful. If anyone has any suggestions for improvements in the process I would love to hear it.

Thank you.

Anyone care to share the map of The Final Sentence. Thanks

I wish I'd saved it out on each floor. Sorry I didn't. It would take me thousands of blessing to backtrack now. I still haven't finished the final battle in it. I'd love to hear anyone's successful strategy for the final 7 fights. I've gotten to the last kiki's once and was promptly smacked down.

Is the final batle that hard you shouldnt even try unless you have 1000s of blessings stored?

I just found a nice trick: When loosing in a boss fight - refresh browser. Fight again and RETREAT. If successful you don't go back a square but can go on from the boss square! This helped beating the "False Shepherd" wich i found way too hard ;-)